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Old 10-19-2009, 03:50 AM   #1
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This is Seatís entry into what is quite frankly a hot hatch market bursting at the seams. Earlier this year Fordís Focus RS raised the bar, and since then its rivals have been scrambling to reply. Next week we drive the new Renaultsport Megane 250. Later comes the new VW Golf R, and later still an all-new Vauxhall Astra VXR.

And Seatís not about to be left behind. Welcome to the fastest model in its history: the new Leon Cupra R. And if you think itís just a Cupra with an extra team of horses, think again. The Cupraís engine, transmission, chassis, steering and brakes have all been upgraded for the Cupra R.
This car runs the same basic engine as the Leon Cupra, as well as the last Golf GTI, but fitted with a new ECU, intercooler, exhaust system, fuel pump, catalyst and a turbo blowing at 2.2bar, it produces 261bhp at 6000rpm and a healthy 258lb ft.

Whatís it like?

The Cupra R feels properly rapid Ė not quite as hard-revving above 5000rpm as the Ford, but genuinely fast while the engine is operating across the top of its fat plateau of torque. It sounds fantastic, too; the turbos whistle and whine over a multi-layered combustion growl.

The rest of the Cupra Rís performance is a bit of a mixed bag. It steers well enough, with weight when you need it, but lightly when manoeuvring. Seat has succeeded in removing a lot of the harshness that blighted previous Leon Cupras, and has also engineered a little playfulness into the carís handling in a rear end thatís alive to slip angles.

But Ė and you may have seen this coming Ė the car is tragically oversprung, at least for British roads. We drove it on marble-smooth Spanish surfaces and even there its chassis was bucking and fidgeting. The trade-off is excellent body control; the Cupra R certainly has that. But it also has an ESP system that you can never fully disengage, so the amount of fun you can have on a circuit is electronically limited.

Should I buy one?

The problem is it is difficult to work out who this car is for. Seat says its number one market will be the UK; weíre not so sure.
Matt Saunders

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How much?

  • Price as tested £19,990
  • Price as tested TBA
How fast?

  • 0-62 mph 6.1 sec
  • Max speed 155 mph

How big?

  • Weight 1320 kg
How thirsty?

  • Combined 34.9 mpg
  • CO2 emissions 190 g/km

Engine

  • Layout 4 , 1984 cc
  • Max power 261 bhp at 6000 rpm
  • Max torque 258 lb ft


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Old 10-19-2009, 10:17 AM   #2
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Love the color and the seats. I'd buy one of these over the GTi to save a few $$ and be a bit different.
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Old 10-19-2009, 10:46 AM   #3
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That is ugly as all get out.
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Old 10-19-2009, 11:12 AM   #4
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I just saw a modded Cupra on the road in Greece recently... it looked and sounded incredible. Blew my doors off, I was in a Nissan Micra at the time.
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Old 10-19-2009, 11:26 AM   #5
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That is ugly as all get out.

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The old one looks 101% way better...









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Old 10-19-2009, 11:42 AM   #6
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The front is not too bad, but the rest is just not pretty...............
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:20 PM   #7
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Another hot Euro hatch we will never get. This is getting to be ridiculous
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Old 10-19-2009, 02:14 PM   #8
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Just saw a bunch of them in Spain....very nice looking car. Looks a lot better in person than in the pictures....
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Old 10-19-2009, 02:57 PM   #9
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why hello interesting sub-compact.

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Old 10-19-2009, 03:18 PM   #10
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If I was in Europe I would definitely buy the Scirocco over this.
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Old 10-19-2009, 04:14 PM   #11
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it is basically my car... but looks cooler... lol.
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Old 10-20-2009, 03:19 PM   #12
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"This is Seatís entry into what is quite frankly a hot hatch market bursting at the seams. Earlier this year Fordís Focus RS raised the bar, and since then its rivals have been scrambling to reply. Next week we drive the new Renaultsport Megane 250. Later comes the new VW Golf R, and later still an all-new Vauxhall Astra VXR."


don't you hate that fact that we get NONE of these amazing cars...
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Old 10-20-2009, 04:09 PM   #13
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If I was in Europe I would definitely buy the Scirocco over this.
+1 The Scirocco is my fav hot hatch as well!!!
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Old 10-20-2009, 04:57 PM   #14
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don't you hate that fact that we get NONE of these amazing cars...
I agree that we don't get many hot hatch cars over here but we do have some. Everyone bitches about something with them, weight, FWD, steering feel, etc. without even driving one. Volvo C30, Mazda 3, many of the VWs. I don't see very many of the people saying we need these hot hatches actually driving or interested in one of the ones we already have. Hell, when Subaru came out with the 08s people whined and bitched about the hatch version. It's easy to see why we don't have many to choose from here.
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Old 10-21-2009, 08:35 PM   #15
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If I was in Europe I would definitely buy the Scirocco over this.
But an equivalent Scirocco is gonna cost 3-4k quid more. That's the appeal for the Seat.
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Old 10-22-2009, 12:29 AM   #16
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Had one as a rental when i went to spain...things are amazing. way better than any golf i have ever driven. Too bad we wont get these in america
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Had one as a rental when i went to spain...things are amazing. way better than any golf i have ever driven. Too bad we wont get these in america
Nice rental, I had an Old Opel 1.3 diesel....it was terrible...
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