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Old 05-13-2002, 02:59 PM   #1
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Default Goal of 200 HP at the wheels is realistic ?

Didn't know where this goes so I fgure it seem general to me ?

"I am currently planning out my mods for next year and am exploring options here to see if this is realistic. My requirement is that it must be a daily driver so civility is key here. As civil as possible. I will be basing my budget while am planning so I'll see about that later."

- I also posted this on Cobb's website

Any opinions, options ? flames?
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Old 05-13-2002, 03:03 PM   #2
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uurrghh I forgot to say I driving an 02 TS wagon. Just in case you didn't see it in my mini profile.
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Old 05-13-2002, 03:34 PM   #3
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totally possibe d00d.

But for a more technical explination, go over to the "Aftermarket Forced Induction" forum. That's where most of the RS, and other non-turbo models go for info on how to turbo their car's.

It'll most likely cost you a bit of cash to get your RS to 200Whp, but it's possible. Hell anything is possible, you just gotta have the cash.

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Old 05-13-2002, 04:08 PM   #4
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I need technical advice..How can I move this to the Aftermarket Forced Induction forum ?
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Old 05-13-2002, 04:38 PM   #5
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you can get it no problem.
i think moderators have to move it. either pm one or wait for them to move it for you.
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Old 05-13-2002, 04:50 PM   #6
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200hp @ the wheels, without some engine "adjustment", is a little high for a N/A motor...

Figure that you'd be around 190 engine hp if you do the following mods:
Intake
full catback, 2 1/4" pipes
Borla headers
Unorthodox pulley


TEC-II will get you close to that number. So will Cobb cams or some of his other goodies.... But it is going to be a little more expensive to go that route vs. getting a smaller stage I turbo setup... That should be good for 225ish.

just my wacky .02
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Old 05-13-2002, 05:02 PM   #7
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Would it be more "efficient" in terms of cost, maintenance, drivability etc.. to go with a Turbo or SC setup ?
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Old 05-13-2002, 05:09 PM   #8
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Not too many proven superchargers are available for us. Turbo's have been proven practically everywhere. I commute in traffic with my 300hp subaru every day with no issues. I spent the extra cash on a TEC-II so I have full control to tune the car as smooth or rough as I want it. There are hundreds of modded WRX's that do the same I'm sure. It IS possible to have a turbo daily driver. Do it, you wont regret it

103k miles and still boostin,
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Old 05-13-2002, 09:31 PM   #9
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Thanks..I will look into a turbo for next summer. I have a year to see whats out and how they hold up. In the meantime I'll work on my exhaust, CAI and the pulley.


Kastle - those mods would get me to ~190 whp ? or is that at the crank ?

I went nitrous in my previous car (now thats a rush) but I'm an idiot and couldn't remember how much was in the tank. I prefer a turbo this time around so I can compare the two
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Old 05-13-2002, 11:26 PM   #10
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Kastle - those mods would get me to ~190 whp ? or is that at the crank ?
Heads
Cam
full exhast
intake
maybe an S-AFC

and that is being optomistic. for a turbo its far cheaper http://ludespeedperformance.tripod.c...ts/stage1.html
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Old 05-14-2002, 04:33 AM   #11
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if you are looking to build up your engine, im selling some JE pistons
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Old 05-14-2002, 08:39 AM   #12
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It appears that 5psi is about what I want to run ( am not greedy for power LOL) but I didn't see a kit for 02 impreza ? guess I'll do some more searching in the forums. I'll just do my exhaust work first (and of course brakes and some minor suspension work) then wait to see what around.
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Old 05-14-2002, 09:39 AM   #13
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pretty much any kit for the pre 02 will fit on the 02, there are only a few mods to it. the main problem is the lack of scoop for the I/C. get a kit without the I/C and then try and find a front mount, that is what i am planning.

contact Elliot, he has an MY02 Rs-T.

take your time and do it right, i have been doing research on going FI for almost a year and i am still learning everyday.

i am going for about the goal as you are, but i drive like a ****ing retard so i have to be more careful with the mods i do.
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Old 05-14-2002, 01:17 PM   #14
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FMIC is a good idea. I was doing some board hopping and I saw that some peopl in the rs25.com forum are working on a SC. It would be interesting to see how it turns out.
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Old 05-14-2002, 01:20 PM   #15
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definitely, but on the other hand a s/c will produce crazy amoutns of torque, hard to handle for the tranny. since my car has plenty of torque i think more power in the top end should be fun.

just my .02
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Old 05-14-2002, 07:18 PM   #16
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Turbos are the present solution, but require engine management system and potentially some tranny strengthening or serious upgrades. When a supercharger solution comes back (Rimmer was there, but had some business dealing problems), it should be a good alternative. The S/C has been on my short list of mods, with only the lack of a system stopping me. With a low enough boost, engine management can be done by the stock computer and air is brought in linearly with RPM, from what I've gathered, making it much easier on the tranny. It's pretty much a simple bolt on. No exhaust stuff, no computer stuff. If only it was available now.....

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Old 05-15-2002, 07:15 AM   #17
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I hear of so many new kits coming out and as I learned the hardway with previous cars I'll wait a year to see what comes out and how it works. Till then I'll start with the a full exhaust system. Still debating whether or not to shell out big bucks for something from Cobb or brullen or just go to my local meineke shop and have something custom made. I want the performance but without the alarm setting off noise, been there done that and drew lots of unwanted attention in bronx.LOL.
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