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Old 10-23-2009, 02:59 AM   #1
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The all-new Ford Focus will arrive in showrooms in early 2011 with the aim of finally dethroning the Volkswagen Golf as western Europe’s best-selling car, according to company sources.

The new Focus won’t just be 
a key player in Europe, either; it’s set to become a global car, to be sold in North America. The US version will be unveiled at the Detroit show in January, before the European car.

The new Focus will go on sale after the launch of the recently unveiled C-Max five and seven-seat MPVs, the first models based on what Ford sources call “an all-new, global platform”.

The production version of the C-Max, to be built in Spain, is set to be launched at next September’s Paris show. The seven-seat version is heading for the US along with the Focus.

Design sources say Ford is going to make the new Focus much sportier and more coupé-like than the current model.
“The hatchback Focus will be relatively lower and sportier than the C-Max you saw at the Frankfurt show,” said our insider. “The important point is that there will be much more differentiation in terms of the relative stance and the H-point between the hatches and C-Max than on the current models.”

The H-point is designer shorthand for the position of the driver’s hip point, which in practice means that the upcoming three and five-door Focus hatchbacks will have lower seating positions and markedly low-roofed styling.

The Focus’s chassis is also likely to be more sportily tuned than that of the C-Max, which is aimed at families and older drivers who appreciate the higher seating position.

The Focus will also get its own interior design theme, with the dash angled towards the driver to deliver more of a cockpit-like feel.

The new Focus will be powered by a new range of ‘Ecoboost’ downsized turbocharged petrol engines.
“The plan is for all our petrol cars to have smaller-capacity, direct-injection turbocharged engines,” said one source. “We especially have to meet the average CO2 target figure that has been set in the European Union, but downsized turbocharged engines are already proving popular in North America as well.”

One casualty of the move to greater fuel efficiency will be the five-cylinder Volvo-derived engine that powers today’s Focus ST. The next generation of the model is likely to be powered by a turbocharged 2.0-litre four-pot, which can develop as much as 276bhp.

Aside from its range of diesel engines, Ford is working on a new range of super-frugal three-cylinder turbo petrol units, with capacities “much smaller than 1.6 litres”.

These engines are likely to be sized around 1.0 and 1.2 litres and are expected to become more popular when tough EU emissions rules make diesel engines increasingly expensive. A number of makers (including Renault and Nissan) are working on similar powerplants because the upcoming EU5 and EU6 emissions regs will force expensive de-pollution kit to be fitted to diesels.

This move will make small diesels too expensive to be fitted to superminis and many cheaper Focuses. Ford hopes that the three-pot petrol motors will offer the performance and fuel economy of a typical small diesel.













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Old 10-23-2009, 08:35 AM   #2
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Not too bad...so far.
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Old 10-23-2009, 08:43 AM   #3
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Not too bad...so far.
You're looking at a mule based on the old Focus.
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Old 10-23-2009, 09:01 AM   #4
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You're looking at a mule based on the old Focus.
That's too bad. If it looked like that I'd deffinitely consider a Focus ST along with the FT-86.
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Old 10-23-2009, 09:46 AM   #5
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I want the damn turbo on US roads now...........
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Old 10-23-2009, 09:48 AM   #6
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Old 10-23-2009, 09:50 AM   #7
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IMO this looks like the new insight and wrx put together
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Old 10-23-2009, 10:19 AM   #8
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IMO this looks like the new insight and wrx put together
Really? It looks an awful lot like a 2008 euro Ford Focus to me.
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Old 10-23-2009, 10:52 AM   #9
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LA Autoshow = Debut of USDM Ford Fiesta

Detroit Autoshow = Debut of USDM Ford Focus

These 2 cars will either make or break Ford IMO.
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Old 10-23-2009, 10:56 AM   #10
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Everyone is begging for Ford to bring them over. I'm going to laugh when the sales don't improve and the Fiesta is a loss. All the people that say they need it will have a list of things to bitch about and end up buying something completely different.

My prediction for peoples complaints on the Focus:
Too Heavy
Small Brakes
Sloppy Steering

Before you flame me, I don't think any of these things about it, I haven't driven it. I'm just making a guess based on the usual complaints around here.

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Old 10-23-2009, 11:26 AM   #11
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In here? Add 'fat US bumpers, wrong wheel drive, not enough power, ST or RS not available from day 1, and not enough power' to that list. And maybe 'no manual' if they end up offering DCT or auto only...
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Old 10-23-2009, 11:29 AM   #12
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IMO this looks like the new insight and wrx put together
Being that all 3 are hatchbacks, sure, otherwise, wrong

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Old 10-23-2009, 12:23 PM   #13
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Good to see that the current ****box that we get is on its way out.

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Old 10-23-2009, 12:30 PM   #14
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Everyone is begging for Ford to bring them over. I'm going to laugh when the sales don't improve and the Fiesta is a loss. All the people that say they need it will have a list of things to bitch about and end up buying something completely different.

My prediction for peoples complaints on the Focus:
Too Heavy
Small Brakes
Sloppy Steering

Before you flame me, I don't think any of these things about it, I haven't driven it. I'm just making a guess based on the usual complaints around here.
Don't knock it till you've driven it. Have you driven anything but your WRX? My first complaints on the bugeye WRX (back when I owned a Focus) :
Too noisy in a mechanical/tractor kinda way
Not a comfy ride
Underbraked

I doubt Ford is dumb enough to make the car a remarkably worse experience than our USDM C170 platform car that's been kicking around since '99.

Going by the "usual complaints around here" is just a copout my man.
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Old 10-23-2009, 12:34 PM   #15
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Going by the "usual complaints around here" is just a copout my man.
Um.. he wasn't commenting on the car.. he was commenting on NASIOC members.
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Old 10-23-2009, 12:35 PM   #16
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Don't knock it till you've driven it. Have you driven anything but your WRX? My first complaints on the bugeye WRX (back when I owned a Focus) :
Too noisy in a mechanical/tractor kinda way
Not a comfy ride
Underbraked

I doubt Ford is dumb enough to make the car a remarkably worse experience than our USDM C170 platform car that's been kicking around since '99.

Going by the "usual complaints around here" is just a copout my man.
Please re-read what I said before criticizing my comments.

Edit: Not trying to sound like a **** here so I'll clarify. Out of all the people saying they want this car and all Ford has to do is bring it over. A very VERY small number will actually go test drive one and only some of those people will buy it. My PREDICTION is the people that don't test drive it, and some of the people that do will bitch about
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Too Heavy
Small Brakes
Sloppy Steering
whether it's true or not, as an excuse as to why they wanted it so bad before but wont buy one.

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Old 10-23-2009, 01:11 PM   #17
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Tim-H, my prediction is that you are wrong. We will know in a few months time.
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Old 10-23-2009, 01:14 PM   #18
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It will be over a year before we see any on the streets. I don't mind if I'm wrong.
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Old 10-23-2009, 01:27 PM   #19
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Don't knock it till you've driven it. Have you driven anything but your WRX? My first complaints on the bugeye WRX (back when I owned a Focus) :
Too noisy in a mechanical/tractor kinda way
Not a comfy ride
Underbraked

Obviously you are not a perfect target market for the WRX then.
WRX was never designed to be a quitet luxury ride.
It was supposed to be noisy, hard and unconfortable in a sporty way.
the statement about the brakes is somewhat valid on stock brakes but blame SOA for not bringing european 4pots right away. With at $250 upgrade done yourself you could transform the brakes to be very capable.

to me, all USDM versions of WRX were going down the hill with the subsequent MY releases. The current one may have some of hte performance back but I just hate the looks.
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Old 10-23-2009, 01:44 PM   #20
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btw i drove a RHD rental Focus Mk II when I was in S Africa, the ride and driving dynamics were great, the space inside was enormous, made the older GD WRX seem cramped in comparison and the fit and finish of the dash and center console quality outclasses the Impreza even now.
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Old 10-23-2009, 02:13 PM   #21
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Considering the current ****box Focus sells reasonably well, I have no doubts the new and improved will continue to sell well.
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Old 10-23-2009, 03:28 PM   #22
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Considering the current ****box Focus sells reasonably well, I have no doubts the new and improved will continue to sell well.
Qft

I'm looking forward to seeing the new Focus here. I had the displeasure of driving the current one as a rental car once. Not a very fun or even comfortable car, imo. If Ford makes a Focus that's similar to the ST then I'll be in line to test drive one.
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That's some pretty low ride height for a factory car
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Old 10-24-2009, 12:39 AM   #24
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i am thinking I would still like to go back to being a ford focus owner. time will tell, like I always say...love the VW but I still enjoyed my little old 02 focus...hopefully now it'll be back to some modern euro styling
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Obviously you are not a perfect target market for the WRX then.
WRX was never designed to be a quitet luxury ride.
It was supposed to be noisy, hard and unconfortable in a sporty way.
the statement about the brakes is somewhat valid on stock brakes but blame SOA for not bringing european 4pots right away. With at $250 upgrade done yourself you could transform the brakes to be very capable.

to me, all USDM versions of WRX were going down the hill with the subsequent MY releases. The current one may have some of hte performance back but I just hate the looks.
Says the guy with the mini?

To be fair; that WRX was a Stg3 bugeye with a lotta miles on it, so more "noisy, hard, and uncomfortable" than normal. But yeah, I'm not a perfect target market for the WRX, yet-I-bought-one-anyways. As a WRX owner; maybe I'm not in the target market for the Focus (or Fiesta), yet if they are decent enough cars (which they will be based on my prior 6 years of Focus ownership) then I'd buy one as a DD so I could have that other rough/noisy/boosted AWD sports sedan to really have fun in.

Isn't freedom of choice when purchasing awesome?!
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