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Old 10-27-2009, 07:11 PM   #1
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Pattern bargaining is how things tend to be done in Detroit, a strategy which ensures that one automaker doesn't tend to get a plum deal at the expense of the other car builders in town. General Motors and Chrysler negotiated pretty hard with the United Auto Workers as part of the bailouts, and Ford's now in the process of securing new agreements with its labor force. While the Blue Oval didn't need government money to stay afloat (well, aside from those low interest technology loans, anyway), it wants parity with its rivals workforce deals.

Several Ford plants have approved the new deal, in which Dearborn has asked for the same concessions that its rivals have already secured. Most recently, however, three Ford facilities have voted down the plan to hold firm entry-level pay and benefits, limits on the union's right to strike over wages and benefits, and consolidates skilled trades. Those opposed to Ford's new agreement argue that the true spirit of pattern agreements would lift Chrysler and GM up to where Ford's current agreements are. Kansas City's F-150 plant slapped down the proposed contract by 92%, but Ford will await the final tally before conceding defeat or celebrating successful negotiations. Contentious labor dealings are certainly not something Ford wants to deal with at this precarious moment. Even while business has been trending up lately, there's still a long way to go, and if labor puts a skip in the get along, it could be a nail in the coffin of a successful recovery.
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Old 10-27-2009, 09:34 PM   #2
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Why should the UAW not fight for their benefits? Management does, CEO get paid loads of money they don't just offer to work for free. Normally that is how it works people negotiate for their own benefit not for someone else's.
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Old 10-27-2009, 10:34 PM   #3
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The UAW should fight, it's thier right.

But you would think that they would have a little forsight into what thier descions might mean to them a few years down the road. The sad truth is that almost all of us americans need to readjust our thinking to remain competitive.

There are what? 8 Billion peeps in the world? And companies are trying to shed more jobs? Sooner or later, somethigs going to give. And, unfortunatley, it likely going to be developed countries.
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Old 10-28-2009, 07:44 AM   #5
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The UAW should fight, it's thier right.

But you would think that they would have a little forsight into what thier descions might mean to them a few years down the road. The sad truth is that almost all of us americans need to readjust our thinking to remain competitive.

There are what? 8 Billion peeps in the world? And companies are trying to shed more jobs? Sooner or later, somethigs going to give. And, unfortunatley, it likely going to be developed countries.
IMO that is why the management is paid the big bucks, to have foresight. It isn't an assembly line workers job description to do strategic planning and analysis. I do agree though that a bit of common sense should be in order.
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Why should the UAW not fight for their benefits? Management does, CEO get paid loads of money they don't just offer to work for free. Normally that is how it works people negotiate for their own benefit not for someone else's.
when the company is in some sort of financial trouble, it's sort of dumb to keep trying to hinder the company from making money, in the end, if they go bankrupt, the workers lose the job too. Fighting for benefits should be done but now is definately not the time.

And that also goes for CEOs still getting bonuses and what not.
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