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Old 02-10-2007, 03:19 PM   #1
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Hi all,
I got a nice crack in my windshield due the sand and rocks used for traction here in snowy Colorado. (Usually, a windshield only lasts about 2 yrs before its too pitted and cracked to be repaired or polished, but it's covered under Comprehensive insurance)

I was wondering if anyone has tried installing the heated windshield from the Outback on a Baja. The heat windshield has a defroster style grid under the wipers to keep them from freezing up, something that would be nice this year.

I wonder if the wiring harness and such is preinstalled or would be a PITB to retrofit it....

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Old 02-10-2007, 05:12 PM   #2
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It might be, My 03 classic came with heated glass from the factory. The switch sits to the left of the stearing wheel next to the cruse switch - I think the cargo lamp switch goes there if the glass isn't heated.

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Old 02-10-2007, 10:01 PM   #3
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U.S. models didn't come with the cold weather package,canada models did.
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Old 02-11-2007, 07:31 AM   #4
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I didn't even know this was an option.

Heated wipers would be a great thing!
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Old 02-11-2007, 10:53 AM   #5
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Holy Crap, i didnt even remember the Outback came with that (my moms got an 03)..... That would be sooo nice.....Im talking to my dealer!
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Old 02-11-2007, 12:16 PM   #6
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Hmmm... if they repurposed the Windshield Heat button from the Outback into the Cargo Bed Light for the Baja, bets are that the wiring harness isn't preinstalled for a heated windshield. Be interesting to see how hard it would be to retrofit... but I have a bad feeling it would be a pain..

In a perfect world, I'd relocate the bed light to the block off used for the offroad activity lights and put heated wipers in its place...
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Old 02-13-2007, 12:19 AM   #7
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Unfortunately 06's are not pre wired for heated glass I really wanted this option in NY!
However they are pre-wired for heated mirrors and it was really easy to install them.
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Old 02-14-2007, 07:54 AM   #8
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can we have both heated windshield and heated mirrors? I see the blank under the power mirror adjust, and the blank under the stereo and beside the pocket. Are those the locations? Can you buy Legacy mirrors (are they heated) and install them?
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Old 02-14-2007, 08:01 AM   #9
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can we have both heated windshield and heated mirrors? I see the blank under the power mirror adjust, and the blank under the stereo and beside the pocket. Are those the locations? Can you buy Legacy mirrors (are they heated) and install them?
Sgt--I was just searching last night for the posts about heated mirrors. (I was actually trying to see what year Legacy mirrors he used since you mentioned wanting the ones with t/s lights). Someone here just did that about a month ago with Legacy mirrors and I couldn't find the posts. I don't know where the switch for that went, but the blank next to the pocket under the stereo is where the switch for the sport lights go.

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Old 02-14-2007, 09:10 AM   #10
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I needed a place to put a switch for my LCD screen that I put in the Dash. I wanted to be able to turn the screen on/off without the remote. Since all three din spaces were used up by the screen/and HU I had to look else where. The switch for the heated seats goes where we have a coin holder so I decided to cut that out and place the switch there. I also will add a second switch for the light on my light bar. That'll take up both coin holders which is not a problem b/c I don't like to keep change in the car and it only collects dust.
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Old 02-14-2007, 09:45 AM   #11
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Ok,

If you have heated seats then what?

There might be additional room in front of the switches for the heated seats.

Are the Baja's prewired for the heated mirrors and the heated winshields?

If not the heated windshield then in the switch could possibly go in front of the heated seat switches are.

Are the sport lights also prewired for the switch next to the pocket under the double din cd changer?
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Old 02-14-2007, 09:57 AM   #12
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Are the sport lights also prewired for the switch next to the pocket under the double din cd changer?
Yes, the Baja is prewired for the sport lights from a plug in the back window area of the Baja to the dash where the switch would go. The switch comes with the light kit as well as a harness that goes from the plug behind the plastic surround at the back window up to the actual lights themselves. However, unless something has changed in the packaging of the sport light kit, mine did not come with a relay that needs to be added in the fuse area under the steering wheel. Otherwise the lights don't come on. It was like $8 at the dealer--little black relay. (Just in case you get yourself the lights and wonder why they don't work).
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Old 02-14-2007, 10:13 AM   #13
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Who is the largest/best supplier of sport lights?
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Old 02-14-2007, 11:09 AM   #14
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Who is the largest/best supplier of sport lights?
I don't know who's best or largest--maybe Hella or PIAA. But for the ease of not having to run wires to the roof, if that's where you'd mount lights, I'm happy with the Subaru sport lights. You can get them cheaper now than when the Baja first came out, on Ebay. Alot of Subaru dealers sell on Ebay, so the lights are mostly new in the box.
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Old 02-15-2007, 12:27 AM   #15
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Wrench yep that was me
If you looking for the mirrors http://www.subarupartsforyou.com/cp_...eft&model=Baja

And the switch you need to get from the dealer. Their happy to overcharge you for it.

The subaru kit should come with the relay for the lights.
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Old 02-15-2007, 08:03 AM   #16
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Their happy to overcharge you for it.
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Old 02-15-2007, 08:03 AM   #17
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The subaru kit should come with the relay for the lights.
I'm not sure if the relay not being in the package was a problem when they first came out with the light kits or what, because I know there have been at least a couple other people who had the same problem. But if you get a relay, you're in good shape. If you don't have a relay in your box your lights won't work.
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Old 02-15-2007, 08:46 AM   #18
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Yes, the Baja is prewired for the sport lights from a plug in the back window area of the Baja to the dash where the switch would go. The switch comes with the light kit as well as a harness that goes from the plug behind the plastic surround at the back window up to the actual lights themselves. However, unless something has changed in the packaging of the sport light kit, mine did not come with a relay that needs to be added in the fuse area under the steering wheel. Otherwise the lights don't come on. It was like $8 at the dealer--little black relay. (Just in case you get yourself the lights and wonder why they don't work).
I could be wrong but didn't someone once say the 03's were not prewired?
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Old 02-15-2007, 10:27 AM   #19
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I could be wrong but didn't someone once say the 03's were not prewired?
Kinda threadjacking the whole heated windshield thing--sorry. But that's a good question. I think I recall reading somewhere that the light kits came out with two different kits--one for the '03's and one for after '03, I think. Because I thought the '03 Baja's didn't have this big silver relay, or some piece of electronics, that needed to go under the steering wheel area that wasn't already built into the '03 Baja's. That silver cylandrical part came with my lights, which I ordered back in '03 for my '03 Baja. But that got totalled so I went to put them in my '04 Baja and that cylandrical piece was already in the cars wiring. But I think the '03's were prewired in the car for the lights. You could probably write to Subaru and ask for sure.
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Old 02-15-2007, 12:36 PM   #20
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I spoke to the dealership yesterday, and he stated that if your windshield does not have the orange bands at the bottom of it and there is just the standard black edge then the windshield is not nor can it ever be heated. The wiring is missing, the special plug is missing, and the removal of the windshield (even if damaged and needs to be replaced) is not advised and will void your warranty. Kind of got an earful from the guy. Thoughts?
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Old 02-15-2007, 04:33 PM   #21
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first removal of the windsheild will not void your warranty... that is just lame.... but they will replace anything that is warn so maybe just go to them when it cracks.
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Old 02-16-2007, 01:19 AM   #22
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I spoke to the dealership yesterday, and he stated that if your windshield does not have the orange bands at the bottom of it and there is just the standard black edge then the windshield is not nor can it ever be heated. The wiring is missing, the special plug is missing, and the removal of the windshield (even if damaged and needs to be replaced) is not advised and will void your warranty. Kind of got an earful from the guy. Thoughts?
Typical pig head, my response to that is: I pay you for parts and tell YOU what to do. Me = engineer You = wrench monkey, when I want your opinion I'll give it to you. Now when you pull stunts like that you must A never go there again. And B make damn sure you know what your talking about.

He is however correct the wiring is totally not there I've crawled up under and checked. Maybe the B177 connector is on the bulkhead harness but the I43 connector to activate the relay is not there on the instrument harness. So even if the rest of the system is there you will have to track down which pins on the SMJ connector to wire into. Oh btw the SMJ connector is like 100 pins or more.

Hell they even pulled the connector for the lighted iginition ring if you didn't get the turbo I really wanted to add that in so I'd have almost everything in the leather package except the trubo. Why the hell Subaru wouldn't let you get the leather package w/o the turbo is beyond me!!

It's really handy having a copy of subaru's wiring schematics for tinkering around.
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Old 02-16-2007, 08:41 AM   #23
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can you pass along the wiring for the drivers side door? I also saw an illuminated button for the sport lights. Can that go where the cigarette lighter is?
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Old 02-17-2007, 06:51 PM   #24
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I don't have a scanner as yet. Anything specific your looking for? Which door? which wire, lock, windows, mirrors?
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just wanted to see for myself if the wiring exists in the driver side door for a heated mirror. hoping that it is sitting there and then I can pop the blank off and install the necessary wiring.
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