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Old 11-01-2009, 01:41 PM   #1
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Default Hybrid goes 12.63, Horrible conditions...

Big thanks to Tony at Speed Industry for the Tune and Owner Jan for all of the help. I am more than impressed by the power band on this thing. I have been an enthusiast for roughly 8 years (since i was 15) and haven't slowed down since. I don't know how much further i want to push this car as it is my daily and can't afford it to break... Anyways, on to the good stuff!

1.9 60'
8.19 1/8 mile
90.48 1/8 MPH
12.63 1/4 mile
106 1/4 MPH

I ran the Spiider DCCD in full manual lock when launching at around 5500 rpm and releasing the clutch about halfway, slipping for a few feet, full throttle under clutch slip and releasing the clutch once i moved about 10 feet. The clutch is probably the strongest part of the car (ATS twin disc). I didn't want to "drop" the clutch in fear of something falling off the car First time out with the new engine at a not exactly professional track and bad conditions as follows:
-Huge head wind gusts probably in the 20-30 MPH range
-Temperature was around 40 degrees, good for turbo, bad for tires hooking
-Full tank of gas
-Tool box in the back
-And last but not least, me driving which is never good lol

Here is the slip, tell me what you all think!

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Old 11-01-2009, 06:23 PM   #2
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Looking at your build data I would expect this car has a lot left in it. This set up should be good for high elevens. I am no John Force either so don't take this as a put down.
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Old 11-01-2009, 06:30 PM   #3
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what turbo are you running? and on what gas?

please take a look at this:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1858764
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Old 11-01-2009, 06:30 PM   #4
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when i first read the title I was like whoa, a prius did what? then I was oh, that kind of hybrid. good job on the build.
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Old 11-01-2009, 07:35 PM   #5
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Wow, didn't know there was a certain format otherwise i would have done so, sorry.

And yes, this setup has potential left. The engine has plenty more but the MAF has restricted me (at 4.85V right now). I need to go to a stand alone unit if i want more, but for now its fine.

Turbo is in my build sheet (Deadbolt Superzilla 55)
Gas is standard Michigan 93 octane (Mobil)
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Old 11-01-2009, 07:58 PM   #6
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55 pound turbo and meth usually traps higher than that with a opensource tuned stock ECU. What is the diameter of your intake ?
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Old 11-01-2009, 08:16 PM   #7
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Ha, i guess i should remove the meth part. I have it routed but not on...My intake isn't that large which is probably why the MAF is maxing out. Even if i were to open up the intake it would probably only allow for a small gain, most likely not worth my time, money and effort...
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Old 11-01-2009, 08:18 PM   #8
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you know, when i read the title i thought it was referring to a gas/electric vehicle..such as the fusion hybrid.

im an idiot.
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Old 11-01-2009, 08:27 PM   #9
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I guess i was wrong in my thought that Hybrid in this section was for 2.5/2.0 set-up. Sorry for the confusion all, if i would have known there was a specific way to post these i would have made it easier on everyone lol
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Old 11-01-2009, 08:32 PM   #10
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Ha, i guess i should remove the meth part. I have it routed but not on...My intake isn't that large which is probably why the MAF is maxing out. Even if i were to open up the intake it would probably only allow for a small gain, most likely not worth my time, money and effort...
Let me clarify. When I asked about the size of your intake I meant the size of the maf housing that came with it. You will get more than a small gain by going big maf with the size turbo you have and even more so with the cams you are running. If you are maxing out your maf you are leaving power on the table and not fully utilizing the time effort and money you have already spent. Talk to your tuner about it and see what he has to say.

Oh yeah, don't apologize for the hybrid thing. The use of the word "hybrid" is often used to describe a 2.5L short block with wrx heads.
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Old 11-01-2009, 08:44 PM   #11
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I have spoken with the tuner and they want me to go with a stand alone unit (AMS i believe). They don't recommend trying to skirt around it as it reduces driveability and being my daily, i can't afford to try that. I was kind of curious how people get higher numbers on dynos with stock ecu. Granted, i was dyno'ed on a mustang dyno which of course reads low (or more correct, however you look at it).

Would it be more worth while to get stand alone or a new intake? Either way i would have to pay for a new tune which bumps up the price for any mod considerably.
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Old 11-01-2009, 09:06 PM   #12
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I have spoken with the tuner and they want me to go with a stand alone unit (AMS i believe). They don't recommend trying to skirt around it as it reduces driveability and being my daily, i can't afford to try that. I was kind of curious how people get higher numbers on dynos with stock ecu. Granted, i was dyno'ed on a mustang dyno which of course reads low (or more correct, however you look at it).

Would it be more worth while to get stand alone or a new intake? Either way i would have to pay for a new tune which bumps up the price for any mod considerably.
I for one am a fan of the Mustang dyno. The numbers they return seem to closely match the trap speeds people get. I am no tuner and am not criticizing yours at all. Search around the PPB forum and you will see lots of people running your set up or set ups similar to yours on a stock ecu or at most a hydra. The one thing I see missing from your set up is a large maf. A big maf will not effect daily drivability. It will release some pent up power without resorting to a stand alone. Rescaling for the larger maf and making some timing, fuel and boost table adjustments should not cost as much as a full retune but that varies from tuner to tuner.
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Old 11-01-2009, 09:18 PM   #13
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I will definitely look into that, thanks for the tip!
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