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Old 11-01-2009, 03:30 PM   #1
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Default Plug change - '06 Turbo Auto

At just about 60K miles I'd like to change the plugs. Searched and found a couple of threads saying that there is too little room between the engine and the body to remove the pack(s). Seems that you have to jack up the engine a bit to remove the coil packs and after trying it last night myself, it seems that this is what must be done.

Removing the motor mount bolt will probably be the easiest part of the job but the question is, since it looks pretty crowded down there where is a good place to jack the engine up from below with a floor jack/wood block?
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Old 11-01-2009, 04:42 PM   #2
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I'm not sure about the trubo.. but al i had to do on the N/A was remove the washerbottle...
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Old 11-01-2009, 04:52 PM   #3
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Was hoping it would be as easy as you N/A guys but got in there last night after removing the bottle and there is just no way to maneuver the darn pack out.
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Old 11-01-2009, 10:43 PM   #4
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Was hoping it would be as easy as you N/A guys but got in there last night after removing the bottle and there is just no way to maneuver the darn pack out.
Not so.

Last fall it took me darn near two hours, but I was able to replace all 4 plugs with no problem on my `04 Turbo. It's a tight fit but it can be done with the correct plug socket, a smaller socket for the pack bolts, a 3" extension, a U-flex thingy (3/8" drive, not sure the proper term) and a longer 2 foot extension to come off the side.

I'd go and get those tools and give it a try. It can be done. Much easier than trying to jack up the motor.

Oh, and as I recall I didn't have to remove the wash bottle.
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:51 AM   #5
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If that's the case then I'd have to say there are significant differences between the '04 and '06 because for one, there is just no way to get at the plugs/coils without pulling the washer bottle and two, the coil pack is just too long to get it out because it hits the side of the engine bay. I mean, this is worse than trying to get the distributor out of a Jaguar V12.
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Old 11-02-2009, 10:33 AM   #6
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You know, on second thought I might have had to have taken the bottle out.

There's no chassis or engine displacement differences between the `04 and `06. Aside from a few minor differences our vehicles are of the same style/generation.. All I know is that I was able to remove the coilpacks and inspect them and remove the plugs and install new ones. It was tricky but do-able.
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Old 11-02-2009, 11:11 AM   #7
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That's why you're a Scooby Specialist and I'm still a Scooby Newbie. I'll look again but I dunno....
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Old 11-02-2009, 02:51 PM   #8
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That's why you're a Scooby Specialist and I'm still a Scooby Newbie. I'll look again but I dunno....
I'm FAR from a "Scooby Specialist." that's just the title the forums system gives me for the number of posts I've made - most of those being questions!
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Old 11-02-2009, 02:59 PM   #9
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That's why you're a Scooby Specialist and I'm still a Scooby Newbie. I'll look again but I dunno....

The "specialist/newbie" designation is based on the number of posts a user has, not necessarily his or her experience. (No disrespect intended to anyone) That being said, I suspect that where your Baja is an 06, there is a chance that your engine sits a little lower in the bay because of the slight "ride height" lift that the 05's and 06's have over the 04's and the N/A 03's. They did this by putting spacers above the cross member that the engine mounts are attached to. This would set the engine approximately 3/4" to 1" lower in the bay and it is a little narrower where the plugs are located. You may have to use a jack On my 05 N/A with a 2" lift, makes changing the plugs interesting (universals and patience)
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Old 11-02-2009, 04:08 PM   #10
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I suspect that where your Baja is an 06, there is a chance that your engine sits a little lower in the bay because of the slight "ride height" lift that the 05's and 06's have over the 04's and the N/A 03's.
Apparently there's some confusion on that. While Cars101.com says that `05 and `06 recieved an increased ride height, after looking at the Subaru sales brochures for all years (`03 to `06), the 2003 Bajas had a ground clearance of 7.3". All 2004 - 2006 Bajas had 8.4" ground clearances.
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Old 11-02-2009, 07:25 PM   #11
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Didn't mean to start anything about the rankings, I knew what they meant but guess I should have put the smiley.

For arguments sake, let's say I CAN'T get the pack out and feel the engine needs to be jacked, where WOULD be a good place to jack it up at?
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Old 11-03-2009, 11:25 PM   #12
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It's called a universal joint.

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...0070921x00003a


I went socket -> 3" extension -> universal -> 12 + 6" extensions -> ratchet

but again that was on an N/A
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Old 11-04-2009, 11:07 AM   #13
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Yup, that's what I used too Steven.

I think I may have just used a straight up deepwell -> universal -> ext. -> ratchet on my turbo coilpacks as using the 3" extension might have been too long.

I thought the engine had a designated lift point somewhere near the middle rear..? Not having ever jacked or lifted my engine I wouldn't know.
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Old 11-08-2009, 05:46 PM   #14
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I was able to change my plugs on an '05 turbo auto with just a a 10mm wrench a ratchet wrench and a spark plug socket. I had to remove the air box and battery and washer fluid container. The hardest one to remove was on cylinder #2 (front driver side). I had to unplug the coil and rotate it 180 degrees so the plug was sticking up and wiggle it out. To get the plugs out I had to put the socket on the plug then attach the ratchet wrench to the socket and once it was loose take the wrench off the socket and undo it by hand. It was more time consuming than difficult. I think it took me about an hour and a half
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Old 11-09-2009, 12:54 PM   #15
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My experience on my '05 turbo A/T was just like jfries89's. I believe that's the complete tool list I used as well, and #2 coil pack was the biggest pain to get out. It's tight, there's no question, and you have to do some creative fiddling/wiggling/positioning of the coil pack, but it can be done with no more tools nor disassembly than listed above. '06 is identical in every respect, so this will work on an '06 as well.
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Old 11-09-2009, 08:47 PM   #16
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the toughest one on mine (110K) was cyl #3 (the one closest to the pass seat)

the coil pack wouldnt seat back onto the plug, had to flip it over and tip the engine towards the drivers side to get it in!

ugh.... im just glad im a svc manager i na nissan dealership that has an ex-rally tech for a flat rate tech to help with fun projects....
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