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Old 11-02-2009, 03:07 PM   #1
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Default Formula One 2010 Thread. The Skinny in the front Fat in the back Era

So with Kers and refueling gone we now have narrower front tires.

Here's a listing of drivers so far...

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Brawn GP

- Jenson Button likely
- Rosberg? / Räikkönen?


Red Bull Racing

- Sebastian Vettel
- Mark Webber


Vodafone McLaren Mercedes

- Lewis Hamilton
- Räikkönen? / Rosberg? / Kovalainen? / Heidfeld?


Scuderia Ferrari

- Felipe Massa
- Fernando Alonso


Panasonic Toyota Racing

- Kobyashi? / Trulli? / Glock? / Nakajima?


AT&T Williams F1 Team

- Rubens Barrichello
- Nico Hülkenberg


Renault F1

- Robert Kubica
- Grosjean? / di Grassi? / Glock? / Kovalainen? / Heidfeld?


Force India F1

- Adrian Sutil likely
- Vitantonio Liuzzi likely / Fisichella?


Scuderia Toro Rosso

- Sébastien Buemi likely
- Jaime Alguersuari likely


Campos F1

- Bruno Senna
- de la Rosa? / Piquet Jr? / Soucek?


Lotus F1 Team

- Trulli? / Fauzy?


Manor Grand Prix

- Davidson? / Sato? / Klien?


Team USF1

- Wurz? / Klien? / Rahal?
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Old 11-02-2009, 04:11 PM   #2
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I see the decision has been made, nevermind.
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Old 11-02-2009, 04:16 PM   #3
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"It was blocked, and that is why we said we don't have to do work here, because it will not carry on next year. That is why, looking at the numbers we have in the wind tunnel, I am positive now. With my feet on the ground - but for sure positive."
This is talking about the double diffuser, so is this verification that the double diffuser is not in effect for next year?
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Old 11-02-2009, 04:17 PM   #4
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Ferrari pickin up Alonso huh? I don't know how I feel about that one.
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Old 11-02-2009, 04:37 PM   #5
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I see the decision has been made, nevermind.
artkevin = a man of action!

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Old 11-02-2009, 04:56 PM   #6
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artkevin = a many of action!
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Old 11-02-2009, 05:03 PM   #7
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Damn you and your quoting technology owace!
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Old 11-02-2009, 05:19 PM   #8
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I wonder if Goodyear hasany interest in returning... who else is up for the job?
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Old 11-02-2009, 05:30 PM   #9
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Michelin possibly, Pirelli maybe?
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Old 11-02-2009, 05:46 PM   #10
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Since Michelin has abandoned most every other form of racing, I doubt they'll come back. Maybe it'll be Pirelli, but who knows, maybe we'll see Hancook on the grid.
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Old 11-02-2009, 06:00 PM   #11
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Doesn't Michelin still supply most teams in the ALMS?
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Old 11-02-2009, 06:14 PM   #12
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how come the new supplier is still unknown? I think nobody wants to pick up the tab here.
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:29 PM   #13
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how come the new supplier is still unknown? I think nobody wants to pick up the tab here.
Well damn, dude, Bridgestone just pulled out, I think they might need a bit more time to find a suitor.
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Old 11-02-2009, 11:46 PM   #14
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Doesn't Michelin still supply most teams in the ALMS?
Yeah, they do, and many in WRC I believe.
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Yeah, but they pulled out of F1 just a few years ago, and they pulled out of MotoGP this year after being beaten by Bridgestone, and their refusal to share tires with teams other than Ducati and Honda in WSBK got them booted (with a spec contract going to Pirelli).

Funny, but with the talk of Goodyear, I can remember when Goodyear was THE tire in F1. Then Bridgestone came along and ate their lunch, only to have Michelin come in and compete a few years later. Still, Goodyear is in the red so they probably don't want to pay to sponsor F1.
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F1 is going hovercraft.
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Old 11-03-2009, 02:22 AM   #17
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Ferrari pickin up Alonso huh? I don't know how I feel about that one.
welcome to last month


Im excited about some of the driver changes. Or maybe thats just me hoping new drivers in new cars will make for better drives and more exciting racing

I could see GoodYear coming through, but I would be it will be Michelin.
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Old 11-03-2009, 09:52 AM   #18
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If its true about no double diffuser next year, it should be a lot closer. The first few races of the season, before it came into use by everyone, had much closer action between the cars than the later part of the season did.
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Damn you and your quoting technology owace!
i didnt even ninja it.... it was 19 mins later

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Funny, but with the talk of Goodyear, I can remember when Goodyear was THE tire in F1. Then Bridgestone came along and ate their lunch,
IIRC goodyear was still the #1 tire when they pulled out of F1..
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If its true about no double diffuser next year, it should be a lot closer.
How is this unknown at this point? Renault and others made it clear that it was a huge amount of work to re-engineer the car for a double diffuser, so it's safe to assume it will take time and $$$ to remove them. I want to see them gone to improve passing but it pretty much tosses out this years development.
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How is this unknown at this point? Renault and others made it clear that it was a huge amount of work to re-engineer the car for a double diffuser, so it's safe to assume it will take time and $$$ to remove them. I want to see them gone to improve passing but it pretty much tosses out this years development.
I seem to remember another one year only item this year that failed. o year KERS. It the take that away, i dont see anything stopping them from changint the diffusers
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How is this unknown at this point? Renault and others made it clear that it was a huge amount of work to re-engineer the car for a double diffuser, so it's safe to assume it will take time and $$$ to remove them. I want to see them gone to improve passing but it pretty much tosses out this years development.
That was a pissed off Italian making those claims, not Renault. He was just being a whiny bitch at the time.

They redesign the car every year, so it doesn't cost them extra money to put it in or take it out. I asked earlier in the thread about Ferrari claiming its not around (I believe they said that) and no one responded. Its either in or out, but I can't find anything specific saying one or the other.
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I seem to remember another one year only item this year that failed. o year KERS. It the take that away, i dont see anything stopping them from changint the diffusers


KERS is in for next year, just no one is going to run it...except for Williams (maybe)
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KERS is in for next year, just no one is going to run it...except for Williams (maybe)
I thought all the teams just agreed not to use it? Williams being rebel again?
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I'm glad to see the double diffuser go. I think it was right for them to keep it this year because F1 is all about engineering tricks to keep you ahead. Now that they are gone (apparently), we should get to see some more close racing.

I also would like KERS if everyone had it. I think it would increase the amount of close racing/passing but unfortunately, it just seems prohibitively costly and error prone. Not to mention, it has the exact opposite effect on passing when one team has it and another doesnt.
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