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Old 11-10-2009, 02:54 AM   #1
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Default Different tire brand? Different thread pattern?

Alright so, I've searched around but for a good reason, I always trust the people here at nasioc, knowledge wise.

Anyhow, I have four different brand of tires with four different kind of thread pattern.

One of the rear wheel for some reason I can't put any more air past 20 psi. It's driving me nuts. Supposedly it should be at 29.

The other real wheel on the right side has a lot of life left but not as much as the other three tires.

Driving around 40 mph is alright but going around 60 is very unpleasant. It's fine to drive but it wasn't as smooth as when I had all Potenza on them.

I bought the rims off a wrx and it came with different tires. The reason I bought the rims was because I thought it would be cheaper than to buy a set of tires.

Any suggestion, money wise, or just overall any good idea? I'm going to Las Vegas this Friday.
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Old 11-10-2009, 02:57 AM   #2
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i'm not familiar with the 98 impreza L, but is it AWD? If so, you REALLLY need to get all 4 matching tires.

either way, all 4 nonmatching tires is just a bad idea as they all have different specs and perform differently causing an unequal balance.

just dump them and get 4 new MATCHING tires IMO.
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Old 11-10-2009, 02:58 AM   #3
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from what i gathered up if u drive with 4 diff tires you can say bye bye to your diferential.
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Old 11-10-2009, 03:14 AM   #4
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My car is awd.

I've read that four different brands of tire is fine as long as they have the same matching speed, and size, and width, and all that. The thread pattern will bad in terms of stopping so I heard. I'm not sure at all.

How about if I buy another tire just like the one I bought earlier?

Two tires in the front would be the same and the tires in the back different or vice versa?

Like I said I'm going to Las Vegas and I'm a bit tight with my money right now. What's the best I can do?

How much should tires cost me anyways total? I went and paid $135 total earlier. For some reason I find it too much. Maybe it's just me.

I would prefer to have them all the same but I need to find cheap tires if that's the case.
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Old 11-10-2009, 03:17 AM   #5
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dosnt really matter what you drive. having 4 different tires on your car is just a bad idea. from what i was told, different tread patterns have different rolling resistance. and if one has low rolling resistance, and the other has really high, then well theres your problem. another issue is tire pressure. check the Max PSI rating on that tire that you cant seem to get over 20psi. if theres nothing wrong with it then, just lower the other 3 to match. but your best bet is just to get new tires, check your alignment, and take her for a spin.

imo, if you want the car to look good, then tires and wheels must all match. im the type of guy who likes to keep things lookin good. if one tire on my car bursts, then i replace that tire with the exact same brand as the other 3. to me having mismatched tires just makes you look either poor, cheap, or just plain stupid. im not saying you are any of the three. just a "judge by the cover" type opinion. a buddy of mine has bridgestone blizzaks on the rear and michelin x ice on the front. he says he jacked those from work lol.

in any case, if you can, i would suggest you get new tires. otherwise try to use different combinations of the tires. rotate them a lil. see which one works best with which one =p
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Old 11-10-2009, 03:20 AM   #6
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Get 4 of the same tire. If your hurting for money go around to the local tire places and see if they have used tires for sale. You would be surprised at what some people consider "warn out" Just might be tricky finding a complete set.
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Old 11-10-2009, 03:25 AM   #7
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I see..

Can someone walk me through a bit with those crazy numbers? I never really paid any attention.

205/45/16 something like that..?
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Old 11-10-2009, 03:30 AM   #8
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Get 4 of the same tire. If your hurting for money go around to the local tire places and see if they have used tires for sale. You would be surprised at what some people consider "warn out" Just might be tricky finding a complete set.
You know actually I have my old stock rims and tires that I was originally going to use to go to Las Vegas with a lot of thread left but one of them was almost out of air when I tried them on last week. I guess I felt a little uneasy using them so I bought the 4 wrx rims which supposedly had brand new tires on them.

The questions is, is it safe to fill it up with air and go to Las vegas with it? Is it natural that the tire would loose air if you don't use it? It might be my last hope.
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Old 11-10-2009, 03:33 AM   #9
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Stock wrx tires are 205/55/16

Also yes they can lose air from sitting..depends on how long..Air them up and drive it for a couple days and see..if it goes low on the way most gas stations have air..
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Old 11-10-2009, 03:36 AM   #10
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if money is tight, a lot of tire shops offer financing now a days
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Old 11-10-2009, 04:48 AM   #11
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^^^

Good way to go from bad to worse in the money department. Just saying.
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Old 11-10-2009, 05:51 AM   #12
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Yeah I gotta be smart about this.

How much do you guys spend on tires? Like I said I paid $135 total today on one tire and I find it too much. Am I right or am I wrong?

Plus, what place do you recommend? I went to Big O earlier. Any better place you know?
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Old 11-10-2009, 06:56 AM   #13
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Alright so, I've searched around but for a good reason, I always trust the people here at nasioc, knowledge wise.

Anyhow, I have four different brand of tires with four different kind of thread pattern.

One of the rear wheel for some reason I can't put any more air past 20 psi. It's driving me nuts. Supposedly it should be at 29.

The other real wheel on the right side has a lot of life left but not as much as the other three tires.

Driving around 40 mph is alright but going around 60 is very unpleasant. It's fine to drive but it wasn't as smooth as when I had all Potenza on them.

I bought the rims off a wrx and it came with different tires. The reason I bought the rims was because I thought it would be cheaper than to buy a set of tires.

Any suggestion, money wise, or just overall any good idea? I'm going to Las Vegas this Friday.
the above is just incredible

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Old 11-10-2009, 07:14 AM   #14
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Do some reading here: http://www.tirerack.com/about/techcenter.jsp

Well worth the time spent....

Oh, and I have a full set of matching Sumitomo HTR+ in 205/55-16 with 9/32nds tread for sale.... $200 plus shipping.
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Old 11-10-2009, 07:24 AM   #15
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Tires have TREADS.
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Old 11-10-2009, 07:28 AM   #16
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Thank you, Uncle Scotty. Apparently you're as anal about tires, grammar, and overall knowledge as much as I am.
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Old 11-10-2009, 07:37 AM   #17
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Your tires are not holding air and you think that's somewhat normal??? You have a leak somewhere. If you don't want to deal with it, then go to Autozone and buy a big bottle of SLIME. It's green stuff used to seal leaks. I've used it with great results and I do mount and plug my own tires sometimes and use the stuff as lube on the bead and a bit inside the tire. It stays liquid, so unlike fix-a-flat, does not stick like a huge weight on one portion of the tire.

With the 4 different tires, the tread doesn't matter as much as the circumference. The easiest way to be sure is to measure from the ground to the lowest part of the center ring of the wheel. They should all be identical. If they're not, figure out the difference in circumference (2*pi*r) and if they're more than 1/4 inch (from memory....if I'm wrong on the #, someone please correct me), you need to go with your other set of wheels.
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Old 11-10-2009, 08:11 PM   #18
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Tires that won't hold air are a problem, $135 for a tire tells us nothing without the size and type of tire it is (I pay $800 for 4 tires mounted and balanced and get 1 year of use out of them, and I have a winter setup).

Tires will lose, roughly, 10% of air per week. Your 4 different tread patterns aren't as much of a problem as the difference in circumference (see the post above).
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Old 11-10-2009, 09:13 PM   #19
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If you can't afford new tires you can't afford to go to Vegas, simple as that.

16in tires are dirt cheap. I just bought a new set of 17in tires for my wifes Legacy (lease is up next month and the tires are shot) and spent $340 mounted and balanced for all 4.
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Old 11-10-2009, 10:20 PM   #20
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i'm not familiar with the 98 impreza L, but is it AWD? If so, you REALLLY need to get all 4 matching tires.

either way, all 4 nonmatching tires is just a bad idea as they all have different specs and perform differently causing an unequal balance.

just dump them and get 4 new MATCHING tires IMO.
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Old 11-10-2009, 10:40 PM   #21
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Hi I work for discount tire company, so I hope that lends some credibility to what I will say. Go immediately and trade in your best tires on your car and buy 4 new ones. Unless of course you want to buy a new transmission. All the reasons for doing so have already been explained, but if you need further encouragement, Discount Tire's company policy is to never under any circumstance install tires in singles or pairs on an all wheel drive vehicle - Subaru or otherwise.
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Old 11-10-2009, 10:57 PM   #22
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You're going to need a new viscous coupler for your center diff probably as it is.

You may be needing new shocks and struts too, as driving around with unbalanced wheels will overheat the fluid in them and blow out the seals.

Driving around on under inflated tires will destroy them, plain and simple.

You can think, or justify, or whatever all you want, but whatever you think or justify, it WILL NOT change physics.

Also check the date stamps on your tires. If any of them are older than 6 years old, you have a ticking time bomb, especially with them not holding air. Do yourself a favor, get some brand new tires off TireRack, almost every time you buy tires from TireRack, you will get tires that were made within the past few months (so you don't get a tire manufactured in 1990), tires manufactured in the same lot, and they will be good about dealing with tires with defects. I bought some tires from a local tire place, and guess what? 2 years later, I look at the date stamps on the tires, and one of my tires is now 6 years old. Even though the tire has 85% tread left on it, in the next few weeks, it WILL turn into a ticking time bomb. I'm going to wear it out fast, and get a new set.
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Old 11-10-2009, 11:14 PM   #23
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I've read that four different brands of tire is fine as long as they have the same matching speed, and size, and width, and all that. The thread pattern will bad in terms of stopping so I heard. I'm not sure at all.
You have no idea what you're talking about. At all.

Brand x, brand y, brand z model 1, and brand z model 2 can all be 225/45/17 but their overall diameter/circumference will still vary. On top of that, you will have varying levels of grip between tires.
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Old 11-10-2009, 11:29 PM   #24
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almost every time you buy tires from TireRack, you will get tires that were made within the past few months
months? no. probably within the past year (which is OK since they will have been stored indoors)
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You have no idea what you're talking about. At all.

Brand x, brand y, brand z model 1, and brand z model 2 can all be 225/45/17 but their overall diameter/circumference will still vary. On top of that, you will have varying levels of grip between tires.
Exactly,

Think of tires as shoes. If you buy a size 10 Nike, a size 10 Reebok and a size 10 Adidas, do they all fit the same?
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