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Old 01-09-2007, 06:26 PM   #1
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Default EJ22T Piston squirters...are they serviceable?

I work in the parts department at a Subaru dealership and we are helping a tech there with a EJ22T buildup. He was asking us if he could purchase the actual oil jet, known as the piston squirters, separately.

I have looked through the service manual and all the parts catalog film, but they are nowhere to be found. They are referenced in the service manual as "oil jets" and are shown as part of the oil pump/lines assembly, but nothing further.

Does anyone know if they are a serviceable, or replaceable part or do they come as par tof the short block assembly?
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Old 01-09-2007, 06:34 PM   #2
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I just bought a ej22t crank case with only 2 squirters on ebay. I'm gonna have to fight him through paypal unless there is a way to find this part. Please anyone with part number or some spares laying around let us know!

Hey low blow, you mentioned servicable. Does this guy have some old squirters he wants to sell?
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Old 01-09-2007, 06:42 PM   #3
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I think that one is messed up...meaning that the valve inside it isn't working properly and instead of risking that it will fail, he wants to replace it.

I have been looking and looking for these things all day and they dont seem to have a subaru part number. I am going to try and call subaru tomorrow about them and see what they say.
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Old 01-09-2007, 08:08 PM   #4
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call Ron at Axis he will do this mod on any block so he must have the parts or know where to get them.
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Old 01-09-2007, 08:57 PM   #5
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I emailed ron at Axis. I'll post his response. Please let me know the part number if you find it. I would realy appreciate it. Thanks
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Old 01-09-2007, 09:41 PM   #6
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call Ron at Axis he will do this mod on any block so he must have the parts or know where to get them.
I called, but I guess they were closed. I'll try again tomorrow.
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Old 01-09-2007, 11:00 PM   #7
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I don't know if they're servicable or not, but I seem to remember reading a LONG time ago (like 5 years+) that those squirters were Nissan parts.

I just tried searching for it and came up with nothing... I may be completely mistaken on this one. :-/
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Old 01-09-2007, 11:20 PM   #8
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Nope. I ran into this problem back in 2003 when building mine. There is no part # for it. You need to buy the shortblock.
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Old 01-09-2007, 11:55 PM   #9
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This is Ron from Axis answer,

You can not purchase those new or used from anywhere. The dealer does not offer them unless you purchase the entire case as a unit.
I've got 3 ej22t cases over here without piston squirters in them, so I know your agony. It doesn't really need them but they are nice to have. You can just plug them up and you will even gain a little more oil pressure when you do.

Luckily I was able to get ahold of the guy who sold me my block and he found the missing squirters.
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Old 01-10-2007, 12:10 AM   #10
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I know that the VW 1.8T motors have piston oil squirters. Maybe you could buy one of them at the VW/Audi dealership and see if you could modify them to fit.
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Old 01-10-2007, 06:43 AM   #11
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I have an ej22t apart right now along with an mate with an nissan sr20 det in pieces, I just tried the squirters from the nissan and they are interchangable so try nissan for the parts
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Old 01-10-2007, 07:08 AM   #12
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This is Ron from Axis answer,

You can not purchase those new or used from anywhere. The dealer does not offer them unless you purchase the entire case as a unit.
I've got 3 ej22t cases over here without piston squirters in them, so I know your agony. It doesn't really need them but they are nice to have. You can just plug them up and you will even gain a little more oil pressure when you do.

Luckily I was able to get ahold of the guy who sold me my block and he found the missing squirters.
Thanks for the info
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Old 01-10-2007, 08:38 AM   #13
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I have an ej22t apart right now along with an mate with an nissan sr20 det in pieces, I just tried the squirters from the nissan and they are interchangable so try nissan for the parts
Can you get a pic of them side by side? This is some great info and would definitely be great to record.
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Old 01-10-2007, 08:44 AM   #14
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I will do this this weekend
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Old 01-10-2007, 09:41 AM   #15
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This is Ron from Axis answer,

You can not purchase those new or used from anywhere. The dealer does not offer them unless you purchase the entire case as a unit.
I've got 3 ej22t cases over here without piston squirters in them, so I know your agony. It doesn't really need them but they are nice to have. You can just plug them up and you will even gain a little more oil pressure when you do.

Luckily I was able to get ahold of the guy who sold me my block and he found the missing squirters.
Thanks for getting that response... I am still curious though whether he can in fact make any of the subaru blocks run the piston squirters as mentioned earlier...
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Old 01-10-2007, 09:53 AM   #16
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I found this.
http://phase2motorsports.stores.yahoo.net/sroilsq.html
Don't know anything about the company. $45 per squirter - yikes!
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Old 01-10-2007, 12:43 PM   #17
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I found this.
http://phase2motorsports.stores.yahoo.net/sroilsq.html
Don't know anything about the company. $45 per squirter - yikes!
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I wonder if those would actually work?

This is what the EJ22T squirters look like...do they look similar???

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Old 01-10-2007, 01:15 PM   #18
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I think I've still got a couple of these floating around in my garage. I will check and post back. They are notorious for falling out of the engine. Every EJ22T or closed deck Ej20G I have ever torn down, with a single exception, has had a minimum of 1 squirter in the oil pan when I got it apart.

I will also mention that when I was discussing an Ej22t build with Trey Cobb, he was pretty adamant about removing the squirters. It was his opinion that while they do cool the underside of the piston, that benefit was mostly negated by the additional friction of oil being sprayed around under there. Add to that the fact they are known to come out, and could cause catastrophic damage, it wasn't a headache he wanted to deal with. I will see if I can find a picture. I had one that was totally mashed and mangled by the crank on it's way to the pan. I could totally see how a loose one of those could fubar someone's built motor if it popped loose and went the wrong direction...
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Old 01-10-2007, 01:19 PM   #19
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I just split my 2.2T case and all the oil squirters were still installed and intact. This block came out of a local rally car.

However the squirters were very loose. Tighter than hand tight but required little to no force to remove them.

I will be re-installing them using a high end lock tight.
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Old 01-10-2007, 01:48 PM   #20
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hmm, I think I better check my block halves tonight, I had no idea these came out so easily.
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Yeah, some quality high-temp loctite would work wonders on keeping them in.
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Old 02-17-2007, 04:15 PM   #22
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Ok here is a twist. I am looking for some oil squirters for my ER27 engine (XT6), obviously they are almost impossible to find. What do you think of this?

Instead of installing a squirter that is removable, why couldnt you just tap a .03 inch diam hole into the bearing mains in the same place the squirter would go? You wouldnt need to worry about them falling out. The only problem would be is that it wouldnt be regulated to close when oil pressure drops like the 2.2T.
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Old 01-23-2008, 05:34 PM   #23
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I need 4 of them
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to service them all you do is blow air with a air gun if it sprays they are good.

so what do i get if i get the part number.
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Old 01-23-2008, 09:37 PM   #25
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what are these things made out of? Is it a check ball and spring or something?

can I braze or solder them in?

most of the ones I've seen are just a passage drilled in the rod.

interesting anyway, I'm picking up an ej22t tonight. I guess I'll hook up an oil pressure gauge to see if I need to tear into it. I'm guessing the oil pressure should be about 20-40 warm?
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