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Old 11-20-2009, 01:38 PM   #26
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Great times, but I really don't think LC will help you that much. Just keep working on the launch. I've seen LC make 60' times worse for good drivers.
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Old 11-20-2009, 11:43 PM   #27
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the bright side is ur already setup for ts when atp releases the stock location ts gt30 and 35

well.....tell me another turbo company developing a stock location twin scroll turbo and i'll get a chubby for them.
Yeah, lookin forward to ATP's twinscroll stuff, as well as Litchfield's, but the bright side? I don't think I have properly conveyed how much I like the current setup, its awesome. The off boost power and twinscroll spool make it so much fun to drive. I can't wait to couple that with the short ratios of a 6MT. In fact, once its got a 6MT and is tuned on meth again to have race gas type power everyday, I don't think I'll need to upgrade turbos.

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nice setup. that's what i want when i do my swap.
Thanks, it is super fun. I debated going built, but factory reliability combined with good performance potential won out.

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I love scoobysport, as a previous owner, but it sounds terrible on twin scroll

great times though!
Thanks, I love the ScoobySport too. I don't think it sounds bad with the twinscroll and don't really want to get rid of it, but need to upgrade to a 3" and something cheaper will probably sound almost the same.

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Rocking the left lane at Island, that video looks so much like mine its crazy. Run looks good, a better launch and 11.9 is yours. Did you flat shift 3rd?
As soon as I saw the vid after I uploaded it, I thought of your video and went to check it out again. I did flat shift the 3-4 and if I would have got another pass, I would have flat shifted the 2-3 too.

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I agree, but I blame my horrible 60's on my inexperience at the track, my heavy 18X9.5 wheels with crappy Korean tires, and setting my suspension as stiff as possible; not allowing any weight transfer.

With that horrible setup my best 60' was 1.75, I changed the suspension setting for the shootout and I launched a couple of times on the streets and it felt awesome I think a high 1.6' is possible with the suspension adjustment. I have forge front LSD that should get me out the hole quicker.

I was just comparing your 60's to your old 60's

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Dude, just a joke. I was looking through the ALL VF thread and when I saw your timeslip, I thought I'd bust your balls a bit.

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Great times, but I really don't think LC will help you that much. Just keep working on the launch. I've seen LC make 60' times worse for good drivers.
Thanks, I don't know since I have never tried it, but I can't imagine some boost at the line not helping.

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Old 11-21-2009, 12:49 AM   #28
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Dave from Defiant posted a thread about launching one time without using launch control, and it helped me pull 1.7 60's the first time I tried it.(and my 3rd time ever at the track) I'm not saying you need the help, because you obviously have a lot of experience at the track, but I'll post it anyway to see what you think.

Basically, Dave's method was to rev the motor a bit and get some heat in the exhaust, then start swinging the rpm's up through the range with throttle blips, and on one of swings you just quickly let out on the clutch as you hammer the throttle. I was terrified of trying this, but it seemed to work. There was no burnt clutch smell when done right, and very little when releasing the clutch a tad slow. It also didn't seem to be very shock inducing. I did try take the slack out of the driveline right before I did it though, hoping that would help minimize stress. There was a bit of tire spin too, which I'm thinking might actually be a good thing. Anyway, the rpm jumping helped make just a couple pounds of boost, and I dropped my 60's from 1.9's to 1.7's. Just a thought...
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Old 11-21-2009, 03:50 AM   #29
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i go full throttle and let off the clutch as the rpm is heading towards redline around 5k. this builds more than a few pounds of boost
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Old 11-21-2009, 10:41 AM   #30
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All cars have LC, its called the rev limiter. If you arent leaving off the limiter you are not launching as hard as you could. If the car wheel hops you may have to lower tire pressures. Island on Friday nights has very little track prep. I ran my best 60 foot times on Sundays.
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Old 11-21-2009, 11:00 AM   #31
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All cars have LC, its called the rev limiter. If you arent leaving off the limiter you are not launching as hard as you could. If the car wheel hops you may have to lower tire pressures. Island on Friday nights has very little track prep. I ran my best 60 foot times on Sundays.
Sounds like your lucky you haven't bent a rod yet
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Old 11-21-2009, 05:45 PM   #32
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Dave from Defiant posted a thread about launching one time without using launch control, and it helped me pull 1.7 60's the first time I tried it.(and my 3rd time ever at the track) I'm not saying you need the help, because you obviously have a lot of experience at the track, but I'll post it anyway to see what you think.

Basically, Dave's method was to rev the motor a bit and get some heat in the exhaust, then start swinging the rpm's up through the range with throttle blips, and on one of swings you just quickly let out on the clutch as you hammer the throttle. I was terrified of trying this, but it seemed to work. There was no burnt clutch smell when done right, and very little when releasing the clutch a tad slow. It also didn't seem to be very shock inducing. I did try take the slack out of the driveline right before I did it though, hoping that would help minimize stress. There was a bit of tire spin too, which I'm thinking might actually be a good thing. Anyway, the rpm jumping helped make just a couple pounds of boost, and I dropped my 60's from 1.9's to 1.7's. Just a thought...
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i go full throttle and let off the clutch as the rpm is heading towards redline around 5k. this builds more than a few pounds of boost
Thanks guys, its cool to hear what other people have tried with success. If you watch the video, I use sort of a combo of these two. I bounce it (too long in the video, the other guy seriously slow staged) and as the tree comes down I try to time flooring it with letting the clutch out quickly (slipped too much on this run). I probably have at least a hundred slips in the 1.7's and this is the method I have always used for FI/AWD.

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All cars have LC, its called the rev limiter. If you arent leaving off the limiter you are not launching as hard as you could. If the car wheel hops you may have to lower tire pressures. Island on Friday nights has very little track prep. I ran my best 60 foot times on Sundays.
Now this is awesome! Crazy, but awesome, I wish I had the balls.
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Old 11-21-2009, 06:09 PM   #33
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Sounds like your lucky you haven't bent a rod yet
i'm curious as to how you bend a rod launching hard?

de-tooth 1st gear? sure.

snap an axle? not likely but it does happen.

bend a rod? hmm. not followin' ya.
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Old 11-21-2009, 06:37 PM   #34
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i'm curious as to how you bend a rod launching hard?

de-tooth 1st gear? sure.

snap an axle? not likely but it does happen.

bend a rod? hmm. not followin' ya.
When I first started racing my V7 swap I would launch in the 55 to 6k range and pulled some 1.69 60' but doing that I snapped a rear axle and hub at the same time

While practicing my launches one guy came up to me and was telling me how he was launching off the limiter and claimed he bent a rod doing it. I say go ahead and try doing it with a EJ205 and see how long your engine lasts

He might be getting away with it cause they are V7 rods but I mistakenly launched off my 8500k redline and was a bit freaked when it happened
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Old 11-22-2009, 02:57 PM   #35
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i have the v7 an i would not go anywhere if i lunched from 8200.. i feel like im launching about as hard as possible while still going forward around 4000 when full boost hits or 5200 when avcs is at full advance. bounc ing off the revlimiter is definately not somethin i would recommend doing at the track unless you have anti lag and some sort of two step program to control the launch.. or money to fix your floated valves, bent rods and or warped heads.. just a thought
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Old 11-22-2009, 09:32 PM   #36
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hey man... Met you at iland a couple weeks ago.. i had the black saabaru... after seeing ur car looks liek im goign to have to 207 swap this winter... haha
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Old 11-22-2009, 09:36 PM   #37
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good ****!
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Old 11-23-2009, 12:22 AM   #38
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hey man... Met you at iland a couple weeks ago.. i had the black saabaru... after seeing ur car looks liek im goign to have to 207 swap this winter... haha
I love how the 2.0L cars seem to be getting more popular. It's awesome.
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:46 AM   #39
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hey man... Met you at iland a couple weeks ago.. i had the black saabaru... after seeing ur car looks liek im goign to have to 207 swap this winter... haha
Thanks man, it was good to meet you guys, the Saab looked great. Good thing to plan ahead, that way you can sell your 205 and recoup some cash instead of running around trying to get everything done after its blown up. You definitley won't be disappointed. Maybe I'll see you guys out there again in the Spring.

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I love how the 2.0L cars seem to be getting more popular. It's awesome.
I'll admit, I was skeptical and wanted to go with bigger displacement, but the early boost (twinscroll+AVCS) combined with the extra revs is just such a blast to drive!
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:54 AM   #40
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When I first started racing my V7 swap I would launch in the 55 to 6k range and pulled some 1.69 60' but doing that I snapped a rear axle and hub at the same time

While practicing my launches one guy came up to me and was telling me how he was launching off the limiter and claimed he bent a rod doing it. I say go ahead and try doing it with a EJ205 and see how long your engine lasts
so you don't really have an answer to my question.

thanks anyway.
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Old 11-23-2009, 12:02 PM   #41
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Great job Dave! I'm sure you'll have driving the new setup down in no time and you'll go back to winning shootouts like it's a second job!

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Old 11-23-2009, 12:47 PM   #42
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Nice job
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Old 11-23-2009, 01:13 PM   #43
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STOP SETTING RECORDS!!!

Great job by the way!!!
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Old 11-23-2009, 02:20 PM   #44
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nice (:

good work
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Old 11-25-2009, 12:27 PM   #45
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Great job Dave! I'm sure you'll have driving the new setup down in no time and you'll go back to winning shootouts like it's a second job!

Evan @ Akuma
Thanks Evan, it may have something to do with that Archuleta pixie dust you sprinkled on it!

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Great job by the way!!!
Thanks! No records this time, but I'll definitely be cranking it up in the Spring and looking to put it as far into the 11's as possible.

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Old 11-25-2009, 12:37 PM   #46
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Also, a note to everyone with a FORGE BPV. I was beginning to get progressively worse compressor surge (seems to be a common problem with this setup) that I thought might be weather or BPV related. I decided to swap to the stock V8 BPV and see if it made a difference and it cleared it right up. It was weird because I checked the FORGE to make sure the spring didn't feel too heavy and that the plunger was still moving and it was, but when I rechecked it after the V8 solved the problem, I realized that it was not moving up far enough in the stroke. I pulled it apart to find that the grease inside was essentially gone and the spring was sticking before it could fully vent. So check and regrease your BPV's people.
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Old 11-25-2009, 01:57 PM   #47
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Still using the stock V7 one on my car.
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Old 12-02-2009, 01:02 AM   #48
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Dave,

Im glad you are enjoying the car. Let me know when you want to stop down by the shop so we can take our time and get the most out of it. Especially since it wont be 100+ degrees!!

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