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Old 11-28-2009, 01:59 AM   #1
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I need some new headlights, and my research has led me to the Toshiba HIR bulbs. I know they are available at John Deer dealers, but no one seems to have them. Where else are they available online?
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Old 11-28-2009, 03:34 AM   #2
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Old 11-28-2009, 03:35 AM   #3
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ebay....
I have also heard that you can get them pretty cheap at John Deere dealers.
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Old 11-28-2009, 04:01 AM   #4
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TOSHI...Q5fAccessories

and these for the low beams.........

http://www.suvlights.com/product_inf...roducts_id=164

and ya got LASER BEAMS for lights
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Old 11-28-2009, 05:12 AM   #5
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TOSHI...Q5fAccessories

and these for the low beams.........

http://www.suvlights.com/product_inf...roducts_id=164

and ya got LASER BEAMS for lights
Is there any reason I shouldn't use the HIR 9012 for the low beams?

Edit: I had been thinking that the 9012's would fit my 2006 OBS. It seems as though they don't. Is that correct?

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Old 11-28-2009, 02:20 PM   #6
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and stop making new threads.....the other one was enough
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Old 11-28-2009, 04:50 PM   #7
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and stop making new threads.....the other one was enough
Yes dad.
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Old 11-28-2009, 06:44 PM   #8
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Are the daytime running lights a different bulb than the low beams?
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Old 11-28-2009, 07:54 PM   #9
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There was talk, recently, of John Deere dealers no longer carrying the HIR lamps - I am unfamiliar with going that route, but there was speculation on those threads that the problem may have been regional/local, and not nationwide. Given the buzz, though, I'd call and check availability, before heading there in-person.

As for online resellers:

Max - of FineMotoring.com, aka "MaxLumens" - known as seller hir_headlights on eBay, is a well-known and reliable reseller. He operates both on and off eBay. Uncle Scotty was giving you very good information, there, so I'd give him some respect and thanks, instead of mouthing off.....

Alternatively, CandlePower.com is also a well-trusted reseller.

Daniel Stern also sells HIR lamps, and anyone who knows automotive headlights knows his name, and yes, he's more than trustworthy. Since he is a one-man-show, and since selling such items is *not* his bread-and-butter, particularly with the holidays, it may take a bit longer to go through him, but it's typically no longer than about two weeks' wait, even if you managed to catch him out on vacation.

Regarding your low-beam/HIR question:

I am not sure what type of bulbs your '06 Outback Sport uses, as I am not intimately familiar with that vehicle.

If what you're looking to upgrade, in terms of your low-beams, is a 9006 application, there is a very simple 9006-to-9011 (HIR-1) modification - called the "hi-lo mod" by automotive lighting enthusiasts - which you can use to boost power (if you're not opposed to the slight overwattage application), there, instead of having to go with the less-common 9012. Basically, the hi-lo mod takes advantage of the fact that the plugs and base for the lamps differ only in their mounting tab configuration, and can be easily trimmed. My wife's '09 Forester XT, for example, utilizes this modification for the factory fog application.

But like I said above, without knowing what your low-beam application is, it's impossible to know if there's a way to use the HIR lamps for your particular desire.

You'll need to research what, exactly, your low-beam application happens to be, before you can make any assumptions about what potential upgrades are. Daniel Stern is an excellent source for such information, on both fronts.

As to whether or not your vehicle's DRL lamps uses the low-beam elements, again, this is something that you'll have to research for yourself. As of the last half-decade, Subaru has not kept any sort of consistency in terms of how they implemented DRLs on their various vehicles - my own BL/BP-chassis Legacy platform is a great example, in going from the low-beam H7 to the high-beam 9005 application for DRL, mid-production-cycle.
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Just did a little looking online - the Sylvania Automotive site says H7 is your low-beam application.

If that is indeed the case, then, again, Uncle Scotty made an excellent recommendation. The Osram Hypers are one of the known and highly thought-of solutions for the H7 application, and its slight overwattage has proven to be not a concern on our Subarus, for many years and many, many miles, now.

The Osram Hyper +65 H7 solution produces lighting that's arguably on the same level as that of most aftermarket "plug-and-play" 35W 5000 to 6000K color-temperature HID kits - although there is less absolute "lumens on road," the retention of beam spread/pattern as well as lack of artifacts, particularly if your eyes/brain "take" better to a slightly yellower light, makes for a very, very effective H7 solution.

And if you see the DRL come on in your low-beam projectors, then no, the DRL and the low-beam share the same bulb. Whether or not this affects bulb-life is still debated - and given the rather limited life-span of the H7s, if you are not against disabling the DRL, that may not be a bad idea, which is often the preference of my fellow BL/BP-Legacy owners (and also my own).

I've used the Osram +65 solution for my LGT's headlamps for well over a year now (and yes, that's on the same bulb, without burn-out - IIRC/AFAIK, such longevity is not uncommon, with the Osram Hypers), and I truly like them very much. I've got a coating on my headlamps which somewhat reduces lighting output, and this bulb still renders a final output that's, at least by my eyes, judged to be "between" that of the factory 55W and that of the +65 solution.

To the best of my knowledge, there is currently no tested/reviewed H7-"rebase" HIR solution. Chinese and other overseas manufacturers and Vendors, such as CNLIGHT and Lim Battery and Electrical, have claimed HIR H7s, but I honestly don't know that anyone reputable has tested them, yet.... Given this factor of uncertainty, combined with the known performance, durability/reliability as well as availability of the Osram Hyper, I'd simply go with the latter.

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Old 11-29-2009, 03:58 AM   #11
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bought mine from that guy on ebay.

hir bulbs are insane. super super bright.
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bought mine from that guy on ebay.

hir bulbs are insane. super super bright.
Your profile shows an '02.

What HIR did you get that fit that?
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Old 11-29-2009, 01:36 PM   #13
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I'm actually switching my HIDs out for HIRs. This **** is too bright and too blue for me.
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^ aka "hi-lo mod"
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What HIR did you get that fit that?
did the hi-low mod, put 9011 hir in a corolla low beams, and I might put them in my bugeye projector highbeams..but prob not since I almost never use my highs unless to flash.

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Cheapest? Don't know.

Try here: http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=1414
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Cheapest? Don't know.

Try here: http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=1414
too expensive by at least $10+ shipping/pair
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did the hi-low mod, put 9011 hir in a corolla low beams, and I might put them in my bugeye projector highbeams..but prob not since I almost never use my highs unless to flash.
Ok, so you replaced the stock headlight assemblies with something else.

I asked because stock '02 takes a stupid dual filament 9007 bulb, for which there is no 'compatible' HIR variant. I have already modded/installed HIRs into my wife's '01 Accord low beams.

So what lights do you have?
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jdm projector headlights recently retrofitted with tsx projectors, hid bulbs.

the projector highbeams use halogen 9005/9006.

when I used to have stock 02-03 headlights I used the +50% or +80%(I forgot) bulbs which were slightly brighter and whiter than the stock bulbs. I got them from powerbulbs.com.

I would get the highest +X% bulbs they make for the 9007 and make your own wiring harness+relays hooked up directly to the battery to get the most light you possibly can.
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Yeah, I've been running a heavy duty harness/relays (from DS) and GE Nighthawks for seveal years now. Noticably better than stock, but still...

Not clear I can do anything else short of a projector retrofit.

9007 based headlamps should be banned

Where did you source your JDM lights? Any cutoff issues (LHD/RHD) ?
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