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Old 04-28-2013, 09:06 AM   #451
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Just dropped my DOM 3.5XT-R 08 STi off at the tuner yesterday. Should have some results for this thread in the near future. Manitou, your praise of this turbo helped me on my decision! Can't wait to get her back.
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Here is a link to my build thread. Pretty basic setup. No E85 around me so I'll be running a 93 octane map 95% of the time and also a 110 octane map when I want to have fun

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2489220
Looks good! It seems that you should see some nice power and spool from the Dom 3.5xtr with your DAVCS 08. Are you're heads/ cams stock? I did not see a mention about them but maybe I missed it.
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Old 04-28-2013, 10:37 AM   #452
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Heads and cams are stock. I may piece some together over the next year but we'll see how I like the drive ability at this power level first.
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Old 05-30-2013, 02:56 AM   #453
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- 03_24_12 - New MPS Motor Built, Installed and Dyno Tuned MPS.
Blouch Dom3XTR 10cm 3", Methanol Injection
470whp@6300rpm, 436wtq@5400rpm - 22.3psi

- 05_29_13 - MPS Dyno Tune, Rotated Dom3XTR, replaced 10cm hotside with .82
MPS fabricated Cold Air Intake, MPS manufactured Rotated Kit (all other variables equal)
487whp@6350rpm, 472wtq@4550rpm (+100wtq@4500rpm) - 22.8psi

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Old 05-30-2013, 12:19 PM   #454
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For someone who is buying new headers, uppipe, turbo, and downpipe... but looking for a smaller setup, do you still think its worth it to go rotated and what are good 'small' rotated turbo options? I currently have an OG Green, looking to see if I can move to a newer technology to spool sooner and improve the overall powerband. I was looking at a Dom 1.5 XTR as a replacement but am open to suggestions.
Built motor, probably running 93 but been thinking more and more about the logistics of running E85 all the time instead.
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Old 05-30-2013, 01:38 PM   #455
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For someone who is buying new headers, uppipe, turbo, and downpipe... but looking for a smaller setup, do you still think its worth it to go rotated and what are good 'small' rotated turbo options? I currently have an OG Green, looking to see if I can move to a newer technology to spool sooner and improve the overall powerband. I was looking at a Dom 1.5 XTR as a replacement but am open to suggestions.
Built motor, probably running 93 but been thinking more and more about the logistics of running E85 all the time instead.
Probably not with 40-50 lb./ min. turbos but it really depends what you're doing with your car and if you're adding a FMIC and all the parts you mentioned then it's going to be a better build with it rotated and you'll have more options. With Blouch stock location turbos the Dom 2.5xtr is better for the 2.5's and the 1.5xtr is better on the 2.0's. We've seen some Garrett GTX2871's rotated lately with great response and power, look at Proven Power bragging threads for these. Look at my thread, with my Dom 3.5xtr, 58 lb/min. turbo in it's stock location, I'm not giving up much if anything at all regarding response and power.
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Old 05-30-2013, 01:48 PM   #456
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Moving my Dom3xtr from stock location to rotated mount, turbo spool and throttle response improved beyond expectations.
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Old 05-30-2013, 02:26 PM   #457
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Moving my Dom3xtr from stock location to rotated mount, turbo spool and throttle response improved beyond expectations.
What did you change, housings etc. lets see some pics.
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Old 05-30-2013, 03:35 PM   #458
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- 03_24_12 - New MPS Motor Built, Installed and Dyno Tuned MPS.
Blouch Dom3XTR 10cm 3", Methanol Injection
470whp@6300rpm, 436wtq@5400rpm - 22.3psi

- 05_29_13 - MPS Dyno Tune, Rotated Dom3XTR, replaced 10cm hotside with .82
MPS fabricated Cold Air Intake, MPS manufactured Rotated Kit (all other variables equal)
487whp@6350rpm, 472wtq@4550rpm (+100wtq@4500rpm) - 22.8psi
Damn that's sick. I'm sure you feel that extra 100 pounds in torque haha
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Old 05-30-2013, 07:24 PM   #459
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Event: Dyno Tune
Location: Maxwell Power Services
Ambient Temp: 50 degrees Fahrenheit
Elevation: ~100ft above sea level

Car: 2005 Subaru STi
Tuner: DynoComp
Peak HP at RPM: 486.8whp @ 6,350 rpm
Peak Torque at RPM: 472.4wtq@4550 rpm
Target Boost: 22.8psi
Fuel: 93 Octane + Methanol Injection

Engine/Power Modifications:
- Blouch - Dom3xtr .82 hotside / 3" EWG
- MPS - Rotated Turbo Kit
- Cobb - AccessPort - MPS | Home
- Devil's Own - STi Stage 2 - 50/50 Water / Methanol Progressive Injection System
- Kelford - 264 Cams for AVCS Heads
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- Manley - Springs w/ Ti Retainers
- MAP - Ultimate H11 Head Stud Kit
- Killer Bee - Oil Pan Kit with Pickup and Windage Tray
- Tial - 44mm EWG
- Agency Power - Equal Length Headers
- MPS - Turbo Inlet / Cold Air Intake
- MPS - Top Feed Fuel Conversion w/ 1000cc Injectors
- MPS - -6 Fuel Line Kit
- Walbro - 255 LPH Fuel Pump
- Group N - Motor Mounts
- Invidia - Q300 Cat-Back Exhaust
- TurboSmart - E-Boost 2 (Stealth Series)
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Old 05-30-2013, 08:19 PM   #460
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That looks like some nice gains for you but it's still inconclusive regrading rotated or stock location of this turbo. Were you tuned full speed density or hybrid MAF/ SD before with the Dom 3?

You must have had an intake restriction other than the inlet tube, maybe the intake was smaller. Didn't you also go to an EWG? That will give you much bigger torque and HP gains.

I made more torque and quicker in the stock location with my 3.5 with less timing I'm sure.

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Old 05-31-2013, 01:16 AM   #461
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I believe tuning practices were the same on both setups, I was on an EWG in stock location. The only hardware change besides the rotated piping/dp/intake was the swap from a 10cm to .82 hotside.
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Old 09-08-2013, 03:26 AM   #462
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2011 wrx

Awd dyno jet
Temp 90 degrees
Dom 3.0 xtr
Perrin fuel rails
1000cc injectors
Injen intake
Spearco top mount
Perrin up pipe
Agency power uel header
Plus all other supporting mods built block and exhaust
407awhp/383trq at 20 psi
This is my break in tune and my limit right now on stock five speed
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Old 09-09-2013, 12:53 PM   #463
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Holy poop wow break in tune. U may just want to leave it at that. Nice numbers ! Enjoy
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Old 09-09-2013, 02:11 PM   #464
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Well they said tht tune just scratches surface of this turbo so looking at ppg gears now
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Old 09-10-2013, 10:39 PM   #465
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Well they said tht tune just scratches surface of this turbo so looking at ppg gears now
You can get a little bit more out of it on good 93 pump gas but E85 is where it will shine but you may be a bit under fueled.
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You can get a little bit more out of it on good 93 pump gas but E85 is where it will shine but you may be a bit under fueled.
Well e85 to far but not 110 octane and running id 1000cc injectors ... Think need bigger
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Old 09-11-2013, 05:54 AM   #467
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Not with 110, yes with E85. What pump are you running and have you rewired it?
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Not with 110, yes with E85. What pump are you running and have you rewired it?
Running the forgive spelling deatchwerks 265 pump
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Running the forgive spelling deatchwerks 265 pump
You should install the DW fuel pump rewire kit. It will supply higher voltage to the pump, so it won't work as hard. You'll run out of pump and injector pushing it on E85 but you could still make probably 500ish if you can bump the base pressure up with an adjustable FPR on e85.

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Ok look into sad trying sell Suby now 400 isn't nearly enough power and doubt 450 will be either
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Old 09-11-2013, 07:53 PM   #471
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Ok look into sad trying sell Suby now 400 isn't nearly enough power and doubt 450 will be either
enough power for what?
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enough power for what?
Just for personal excitement trust me 400 hp ain't as crazy as sounds lol
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Just for personal excitement trust me 400 hp ain't as crazy as sounds lol
Try racing on a track against other drivers.

Making more power is easy, all you need is more money.
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Try racing on a track against other drivers.

Making more power is easy, all you need is more money.
Yea true that lol
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Old 10-22-2013, 01:06 AM   #475
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In real world, what do the Dom 3.0XTR & Dom 4.0XTR really compares to in the FP and GTX series?

Blouch states:
- Dom 3.0XTR equiv to the GTX3076 & FP Red 76HTA (55-57lb/min vs < 60lb/min)
- Dom 3.5XTR equiv to the GTX3576 (58-60lb/min vs 64lb/min)
- Dom 4.0XTR is greater than the GT3582 and less than the FP Black 82HTA

How much do the Dom 4.0 actual flows and the response compared FP Black 82HTA
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