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Old 12-01-2009, 12:14 PM   #1
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Ok so here is the deal, I am buying myself a computer for christmas and dont know much about them at all, so I want some gurus of the RMIC to chime in. I want to be able to watch HD movies, burn movies and C.D.'s, have tons of storage for pics and music, be able to photoshop with zero lag, occasionally game a little, and surf and download quickly on the webz.
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16883103219

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16883147068

or i was told that pc laptops might be a good option to have one custom built. my budget is around $800 or so. Let me know what ya think
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Old 12-01-2009, 12:26 PM   #2
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Dude get a macbook air! you really cant do anything with it at all....BUT you can put it in a manilla envelope!! haha

Thats what I have. My mom hated it so I snagged it from her. I cant complain about it tho. I like Macs. Just sucks it doesnt have a cd drive. (I have to use external)
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Old 12-01-2009, 12:37 PM   #3
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that computer starts at 1499
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Old 12-01-2009, 12:40 PM   #4
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but look!


I like the normal macbooks. the normal ones that have a cd drive.
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Old 12-01-2009, 12:41 PM   #5
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, have tons of storage for pics and music, be able to photoshop with zero lag, occasionally game a little,
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pc laptops might be a good option to have one custom built. my budget is around $800 or so.
Depending on your definition of "tons of storage", these two constraints generally will be a bit difficult to make work(my definition of a "ton of storage" is 2TB+, which some people don't even know what that means ) I bought a gaming laptop back in 05, cost me $1900, and now its ability to do anything is so little its become a dedicated working on car laptop(only has internet, romraider/etc), for what its worth. IMO laptops for anything beyond the more basic of computing needs are a bit of a gamble, but for those needs it does fulfill, it does marvelously with portability and all.
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Old 12-01-2009, 12:43 PM   #6
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If he wants to watch HD movies, he'd going to want a 1920x1200 display, which pretty much puts him in the 17 inch category. So if he went Mac, he'd be looking at a ~2.5k MacBook Pro. I love Macs, but that doesn't fit what he's looking for price-wise.
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Old 12-01-2009, 12:53 PM   #7
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I am planning on buying at least 21 inch monitor seperatly, not included in budget cost. Also I would like at least 1tb
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The HD movies.....where will they be coming from? Bluray notebook drives are an expensive commodity. Also, I haven't seem many notebooks that have terabyte HDD's....you might want to consider getting a notebook that has HDMI and eSATA ports. the eSATA will be great for an external HDD with speed, and the HDMI will make it so that you can use a realy nice TV instead of just a 21" monitor, if you so choose...
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Is there a reason why all of you are suggesting laptops? or is that just the latest craze?
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cause then you can use the computer while taking a ****....like what im doing right now.
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Is there a reason why all of you are suggesting laptops? or is that just the latest craze?
I was just drafting off of what Brody recommended. If you're open to desktops, then you have plenty of options. You'll want lots of ram for fast photoshopping, a good video card for HD playback.
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Oh.....i didn't know this was for a computer in general.



No, if you want it for HD, then don't use a laptop. Not worth it. Honestly, unless your screen is larger than 40", there's no reason to even need a 1080p screen anyway, so "TRUE HD" is pointless on most computers. If you're mostly lookin to use it for pictures, movies, etc, you might actually want to debate building (or having someone build you *wink*) a Home Theater PC, or HTPC.
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Old 12-01-2009, 01:13 PM   #13
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cause then you can use the computer while taking a ****....like what im doing right now.
No... that's what the iPhone is for. I can knock out an Eliminate match while eliminating. I love living in the future.
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No, if you want it for HD, then don't use a laptop. Not worth it. Honestly, unless your screen is larger than 40", there's no reason to even need a 1080p screen anyway, so "TRUE HD" is pointless on most computers. If you're mostly lookin to use it for pictures, movies, etc, you might actually want to debate building (or having someone build you *wink*) a Home Theater PC, or HTPC.
I strongly disagree. I run an Apple Cinema Display (native rez of 1920x1200... so roughly 1080p resolution) and there's a huge quality jump between SD, DVD, 720 and 1080 content.
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No, if you want it for HD, then don't use a laptop. Not worth it. Honestly, unless your screen is larger than 40", there's no reason to even need a 1080p screen anyway, so "TRUE HD" is pointless on most computers. If you're mostly lookin to use it for pictures, movies, etc, you might actually want to debate building (or having someone build you *wink*) a Home Theater PC, or HTPC.

SO CAN YOU BUILD ME ONE WITH MY SPECS FOR LESS THAN 800?
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Old 12-01-2009, 01:45 PM   #17
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don't buy and notebook or a laptop. I would get a 21" iMac and buy an external drive for storage and use firewire not USB2 it's way faster. Macs really are pretty nice just costly but if you edit photos or do anythings that used a lot of processor they are built for that kind of stuff. But if you want a less expensive but good for media, movies and what not get a Dell, they have great warranties and you get a lot of bang for the buck.

21" iMac-3.06GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
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$1499 and usually if you are a student they will give you a discount.
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That is about double my budget
All I want is a desktop with a quad core processor, 1TB, and ability to do all of the things listed. You think DELL is the way to go?
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That is about double my budget
All I want is a desktop with a quad core processor, 1TB, and ability to do all of the things listed. You think DELL is the way to go?
It depends on whether or not you want a "disposable" computer. If you don't mind getting to know about your machine or doing some troubleshooting, I'd have a friend build you a computer or go to a local shop like PC Laptops.

Also, I really doubt you need quad core. A fast dual core would likely fit your needs pretty well. Put the money you save on the second processor towards more ram and a better video card.
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What's a good place to buy parts? Motherboards, memory, CPU, ect. I have always built my own computer but haven't in a LONG time so I am in desperate need of an upgrade.
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That is about double my budget
All I want is a desktop with a quad core processor, 1TB, and ability to do all of the things listed. You think DELL is the way to go?
I buy a lot Dells for my work and they are good and are cheap, you get a lot for what you pay for. They are not bad to repair if you had to do it yourself, most stuff is not proprietary like the old ones were and you can replace video cards, drives, power supplies and most stuff that would fail. You could build one but I doubt you could build a better computer for less. We used to build all of our computers and would end up spending a lot more time doing it so we switched to Dells and they were actually less and probably better than what we were building.

I have 4 computers at home right now a iMac, Dell, Toshiba and a e-machine. I bought the e-machine when my built computer died in the middle of finals week in school so instead of trouble shooting and waisting time and for spite because I was pissed I spent $1700 on it, I ran down to best buy and bought the cheapest computer I could find and it is still running perfect 8 years later, $450 with printer. So you never know, my piece of shiet built computer lasted 6 month before the processor and mother board burned up but my e-machine is still going strong 8 years later.
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So you never know, my piece of shiet built computer lasted 6 month before the processor and mother board burned up but my e-machine is still going strong 8 years later.
It's my belief that the biggest problem with home-build machines is that they are often improperly cooled, leading to premature component failure. This is one thing I appreciate about Apple's professional-level enclosure designs... they tend to be engineered for decent airflow. Models like the G4 iMac are a different story though.
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It's my belief that the biggest problem with home-build machines is that they are often improperly cooled, leading to premature component failure. This is one thing I appreciate about Apple's professional-level enclosure designs... they tend to be engineered for decent airflow. Models like the G4 iMac are a different story though.
Yeah I had a big enclosure and two fans but I think the gel for the heat sink on the processor didn't do its job and it should have shut down when it was over heating but it didn't. All of which was probably my fault. I don't know how my iMac does it, there is no room for ventilation and every thing is so compact. If you pull a disk out of the drive it is burning hot but yet I've never had a problem with it in the 3 years and it is on all the time. I guess they cool what counts or build stuff to function under that kind of heat. I can't tell you, I don't know much about macs since I have never had to work on one. PC's kind of force you to learn.

and newegg is good.
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i want a laptop too mostly for facebook and porn so it doesnt have to be top notch
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1080p

What have you ever watched that is TRUE 1080p? Not broadcast TV, not DVD's, not streaming content.......the fact of the matter is that "HD" consists of LOTS of different formats, and most of what you watch will not be in actual 1080p. I can believe that a WUXGA screen will make things look prettier, and the higher DPI you have, the more defined things will look.....that doesn't mean what you are looking at is what you think it really is...if you don't believe me, please read this: http://www.cnet.com/hdtv-resolution/?tag=hdtv;hdtv_l

Gonz, good places for parts are NewEgg (brownie points to Asher as this one is on top), MWave, TigerDirect, and ZipZoomFly.

Hawkman, in a word.....yes. I should be able to build you a computer to that spec for that price. PM me, and we'll talk. Otherwise, Dell has some of the best offerrings for the best prices, but IDK if you'll end up getting exactly what you want for that price. The biggest issue with pre-built, corporate conglomerate systems is that very thing.....they frequently buy cheap parts and stock them to keep overhead low. Having worked doing Dell's support, I am biased towards them because they have always been the easiest systems to work on for me, but frankly put, they really do use cheap parts. People say you never have to work on a Mac, and they will give you a thousand reasons why they are better.....myself, I can't justify the price-to-power ratio, but maybe part of that is because if anything goes south on a PC, I know how to fix it, and the parts aren't expensive and more difficult to source. Asher is also right with the improper cooling on home machines; people never seem to understand how important it is that you keep your parts cool. It would be like running sewer water in your radiator because it is cheap as hell. Sure, it works for now, but there's a good chance it won't be working later.

It's up to you how you want to go. We can find you some good deals with a pre-built, or we can price a custom setup for you. And whoever recommended you to PC Laptops.....eh. They're ok, but a random store down the street that will build to your liking is probably gonna be a better off place to get one. And whatever you do, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT take your computer to Geek Squad. EVER. Just call or PM one of us. We'll do the work for cheaper (if not free), and we'll actually FIX the problem, not put a metaphorical band-aid on it.
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