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Old 12-01-2009, 01:43 PM   #1
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LOS ANGELES -- General Motors Co. tomorrow is expected to announce that the rollout of the new Chevrolet Volt plug-in hybrid will take place in selected U.S. markets -- not as a national launch.

GM CEO Fritz Henderson is set to make the announcement at the Los Angeles Auto Show.

The Volt is one of the most anticipated vehicles in the history of GM, which reorganized during a 39-day, government-sponsored bankruptcy this past summer.
Yesterday, Chevrolet division President Brent Dewar said here that GM is looking at a number of factors to determine which areas get the Volt first.

“We're looking at infrastructure, tax credits,” he said during a plug-in roundtable discussion. “We want this to be a very positive experience. Then we will go to a national rollout.”
It's almost certain that California will be one of the rollout states, but Dewar would not confirm that. California residents were big fans of GM's EV1 electric car. GM produced and leased about 1,000 EV1s from 1996 through 1999.

“There definitely is demand,” Dewar said. “We just need to get the cost and infrastructure in balance.”
Dewar did not say how many Volts GM expects to sell.
“Our biggest problem is infrastructure,” he said
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Old 12-01-2009, 02:03 PM   #2
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GM (government motors) will lose money on every single one they make and sell.
Volt fail.

If there is no chance to make profit on theses (which there is no chance as it costs more to build than the selling price of 40k) then it just won't be sold anywhere.
Companies will not sell items at lower price than it took them to make the thing. This is reason why GM Should fail, its a flawed business plan from the get go and they are not showing any signs to improve.

Have you seen the new GMC truck, its got a 400+hp engine, woo hoo, that gets 14mpg. yay, thats not a plan to survive either.
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Old 12-01-2009, 02:08 PM   #3
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Companies will not sell items at lower price than it took them to make the thing. This is reason why GM Should fail, its a flawed business plan from the get go and they are not showing any signs to improve.
You sell something as a loss leader hoping it catches on, much like what Toyota did for a number of years with the Prius (though they made money on the actual "parts", they lost money due to development costs factored into the car cost).
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Old 12-01-2009, 02:39 PM   #4
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Post #3.... This.

The investment GM is making in the Volt is going to be recouped over millions of vehicles over the next decade that will receive electric drive serial hybrid drivetrains. Unit costs will never come down if they don't start production. And if they don't start production, they'll be left behind yet again.
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Except that there are already tried and proven hybrids, and there is no need to make such a loss on the Volt if you instead go with a standard hybrid and use the Volt once it makes sense - especially if you are a bankrupt company.
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Post #3.... This.

The investment GM is making in the Volt is going to be recouped over millions of vehicles over the next decade that will receive electric drive serial hybrid drivetrains. Unit costs will never come down if they don't start production. And if they don't start production, they'll be left behind yet again.
This is very true ONLY if they can get to the millions of vehicles sold landmark you mention. If nobody buys them as they just do not see the point, then they will never reach millions of vehicles sold and the whole thing will be reduced to an empty promise that was a just shell of an idea packaged in a pretty bow to get billions of dollars of taxpayer money.

I really do not see them selling millions of volt spin offs. The fusion and Insight are great cars on sale today, that are finding it hard to compete with the likes of just the Prius. I do not see the Volt doing well if it costs over 30 grand.
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I think that the intellectual property rights to the Volt are going to help GM recoup costs a bit quicker than just sales of the car.
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Old 12-01-2009, 08:11 PM   #8
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Who are they going to license to?
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Old 12-10-2009, 03:36 PM   #9
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Well, it is a pretty safe bet the lead markets will not be in the North.... No way to accelerate the death of the car any faster than reports that the mileage number is nowhere near the reported value, in the winter (heat take power, battery efficiency goes down in the cold).
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LA Ftw.
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Actually the heat will degrade batteries faster, they will last longer in the north, though you may not get the distance per charge. Hence the best locaiton would be mild climates, neither too hot nor too cold.
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