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Old 05-19-2002, 01:19 PM   #1
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Question Will a 2002 WRX turbo work on a 1997 Impreza L?

I'm trying to figure out the best way to turbo my Impreza L, keep costs down, run well and not blow the engine.
I've heard a few people say that a stock WRX turbo will fit on the 2.2 liter Impreza.

I've been trying to do my homework by about a year of research, and just about everything has come up inconclusive.

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Old 05-19-2002, 01:42 PM   #2
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Sorry to make your search even more inconclusive but just about any turbo will fit any car as long as you have the exhaust made to fit. Sorry if that didnt help you much
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Old 05-19-2002, 07:24 PM   #3
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Yes, actually it did.
I know tons about N/A tuning, but I'm just learning the basics of Turbo tuning.
I'm looking to see the potential of my engine for turbo'ing, so any information at all is helpful, so thank you.

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Old 05-19-2002, 07:26 PM   #4
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Cool glad I could'nt be of much help
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Old 05-19-2002, 07:42 PM   #5
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Why not just swap a US WRX engine into your OBS?
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Old 05-19-2002, 07:47 PM   #6
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Is that an option?
What will I have to do? Change the crossmember? Transmission? ECU? Fuel pump / system?
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Old 05-20-2002, 10:19 AM   #7
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Old 05-20-2002, 04:35 PM   #8
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Bry-
I am wondering if you have considered doing an entire legacy 2.2 turbo drivetrain swap? I have heard of some guy in Canada who has done this. Maybe somebody here can give you a link to his site. If so, get in touch with F&S auto. I think that they have a few legacy turbo's laying around. How much are you looking to spend? I am betting that this will be easier and cheaper in the long run. You would be installing the entire system into a car, and not trying to mate two systems together.

Second, get in touch with wac here on the board. He can give you a very good idea of the troubles that you may face. I don't think that there is anybody more experienced than he when it comes to making the EJ22 into a turbo motor.

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Old 05-20-2002, 07:07 PM   #9
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I am doing a WRX Turbo re-design off of a Mitsubishi TD04 turbo (FP turbo). As for the core of the turbo snail, bought it for only $300. If you are planning on higher boost like me, I am re-porting the turbo to handle 20+ pounds of boost with new internals. Total of $1000 out the door. Dont forget you will an intercooler, get a used one and look for someone who can get you all the pipings all at once. You definitely need new fuel/timing management which will be at LEAST another G! my homie g.

For a turbo project, the 'turbo' is only at most about 25% of the total cost my friend.
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Old 05-20-2002, 11:29 PM   #10
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I thought about the Legacy Turbo swap, but from what I've heard it is only good up to about 160 HP, I've got about 155 at the crank N/A right now, so I'd like to see what I can get from a small, efficient turbo on my engine.

As for boost numbers, I don't plan on running anything higher then 15 psi, 10 realistically and 5-8 daily driven.

I just need to go faster and it's hard to get anything for the 2.2 liter (i.e. Cams, Heads, etc.)

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Old 05-21-2002, 04:10 PM   #11
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Skywalker and his team did a good job on my setup. maybe this is what you want? its about the same price as the turboing the RS w/ stand alone management.
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Old 05-21-2002, 09:17 PM   #12
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So RimRockaz....how much did you get the parts for (engine, tranny, ecu, anymore???)....and how much was the install. Very nice looking setup and car ya got there.

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Old 05-21-2002, 10:06 PM   #13
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i spent about $8k in parts (engine, ecu, fuel pump, x-member, exhaust system, upgraded clutch, and flywheels), and labor.

not cheap.. but the only good thing is that i get to keep the GC body ;p
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What does it take to install a WRX mortor/drivetrain/ECU/wiring into an RS? How was the wiring? What ECU did you use? Does it run like a stock WRX? What exhaust?

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Old 05-22-2002, 03:35 PM   #15
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Ru Fan,

everything is stock from a wrecked new age wrx.

if you have any questions regarding this conversion, please go to www.i-speedusa.com and contact them.

hope this helps,

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Old 08-28-2002, 01:37 AM   #16
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Thumbs up forcedairtech.com

there is a very interesting aftermarket turbo setup available at www.forcedairtech.com for the 2.2L. It is actually a twin turbo design. although the sight may be misleading at first. it does read at the top that it is available for the 2.2L and not just the 2.5L engine.
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Old 08-28-2002, 11:03 AM   #17
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From what I have read the Legacy turbo can be built up to 250hp or so with the addition of IC and bigger turbo, and fuel management. The advantage to going this route are a cheaper engine cost and more compatible ECU in terms of wiring so lower conversion cost. The disadvantage is that the engines will generally have a lot more mileage and won't make as much power as a built EJ20, and emissions could pose a problem depending on your local regulations.
WAC has indeed done the turbo route but has had a few hiccups along the way. He needed to o-ring his block to be able to run 7psi and has upgraded fuel and finally switched to a Link II. I would wait for WAC to get there before attempting 10+ psi.
I am hoping that the supercharger being developed by Templar at 25RS.com will be the thing. They will be adapting it to the 2.2 as one of their team has an OBS that is begging for power.
You should also see the supercharging thread from a few days ago on this forum. There is a tuner in London, Ontario who is gauging interest is developing an application for the 2.5/2.2.
Lots of options each have there own pros and cons.
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Old 08-28-2002, 09:02 PM   #18
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I have been running a turbo on my MY97 Impreza L Wagon 2.2 for a few weeks now and it's a great improvement. It's at 6lbs and pretty fast. Not nearly as torquey or fast as my RS-T was with the same kit at the same lbs ofcourse but still a fun fast car to drive. I think I would go with a Subachad kit and a WRX turbo if I was you, you can get some nice reliable power cheap. Then if you want more power you can aways move on to more advance management and such.
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Old 08-29-2002, 01:17 PM   #19
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bryan --

yeah, i would go with subachad's up and downpipes if you want the quickest and simplest solution...i was thinking of doing this a while back, and even pricing everything out with top shelf parts (fancy wastegate/bov, new IC, SAFC, etc.) it came out to about $1400. right now a friend of mine is transplanting all the turbo guts from a blow JDM motor on to a 1.8L, so i'm waiting to see what happens with that, since he has enough parts to build another 'kit' of sorts laying around.

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Old 08-29-2002, 02:44 PM   #20
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Yes, look into subachads stuff, his up/down pipes are very well made. I have a set of them myself (in fact, the pic of them on the floor by the CD on his site is one I took of them), and they are very nice. And I live by Chad, so I've met him on several occasions, and he's a very nice guy, great to do business with.

www.uniquemotorsports.com is his website, by the way.
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Old 08-30-2002, 02:21 PM   #21
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BryImpreza-
if you've got the loot, Cobb Tuning is selling Legacy 2.5liter Turbo blocks (good for almost 400hp I think it said) and cylinder heads. They're all reinforced and got everything you want. That's what I want to do, unfortunately it'll be later than sooner. Right now i've got a 96 2.2 - can you pm me with what you did to get it to 155 @crank, I'm looking for more options since my engine swap is being put on hold...
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Old 08-30-2002, 06:36 PM   #22
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sti-nismo dood: hey, vic! I'd like to see your car when you get around to installing your turbo! Man, i always see you around, still haven't met you tho..

-the other vic in SD/silverthorn
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