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Old 12-12-2009, 07:49 PM   #1
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So as of right now on my 2004 wrx I have Megan Racing Coilovers "street". It is a great ride, but it makes way to much noise in the front and rear. Just the noise is annoying and enough to make a switch. Now today I just rode in my friends ride and he had the Megan Racing "track" edition coilovers. They rode just like mine but it was so quite.

Can someone tell me the differences between the two produces or recommend a better produce at the same price. Or could someone tell me why my front coilovers make so much noise. It sounds like every bump I hit the coilover is pushing up the metal of my car and its popping. Please help!

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Old 12-12-2009, 07:59 PM   #2
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masterkwan's rce t2 coilovers with vorshlag camber plates and grp N rear tophats

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Old 12-12-2009, 10:05 PM   #3
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so...what EXACTLY is making the noise????
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Old 12-13-2009, 12:24 AM   #4
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Coil bind from being too low perhaps ? I am not saying you are too low, it's just a thought that comes to mind whenever I hear "megan" "coilover" and "racing" in the same sentence/paragraph. I'm just saying.


I know, the ride height adjustment is independent of the preload right ? Check the coils and see if there is evidence of bind, if there's not then that is one thing you can cross off the list. Personally I'd look into spending at least enough money to get a decent setup, but then I tend to research, wait, save, and get the right **** the first time. I am not immune from spending money to go the wrong direction, it just doesn't happen very often.
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Old 12-13-2009, 12:32 AM   #5
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how long have you had the coilovers? have they always been noisy? when does it make noise?

your friend probably just got "lucky" with a better quality set of camber plates....the pillowballs on Megan's are known to be a little iffy or hit or miss on quality. they also can wear out fairly quick.

that's my first guess. the only real difference between track and street megans as far as i know is the springs themselves....definitely not construction, and maybe not valving.
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Old 12-13-2009, 01:02 AM   #6
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I have had the coilovers on for a year now. I think for sure it is the camber plates in the front. It literally sounds like there is space in between the coilover camber plates and my car, so every time I hit a bump you hear a metal on metal sound. Almost as if the coilover is bouncing up and down. But the bolts have been tightened all the way down. I even unbolted the two front and reinstalled them.

Perhaps I didn't save for the top quality parts, but I figured for 900 they would be decent.

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Old 12-13-2009, 01:28 AM   #7
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I have had the coilovers on for a year now. I think for sure it is the camber plates in the front. It literally sounds like there is space in between the coilover camber plates and my car, so every time I hit a bump you hear a metal on metal sound. Almost as if the coilover is bouncing up and down. But the bolts have been tightened all the way down. I even unbolted the two front and reinstalled them.

Perhaps I didn't save for the top quality parts, but I figured for 900 they would be decent.

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$ 1900 would be 'decent'
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Old 12-13-2009, 02:16 AM   #8
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I dont know one person on this forum who would not agree 1900 would be a good figure to start with, but sadly not everyone (including me) has that money.
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I dont know one person on this forum who would not agree 1900 would be a good figure to start with, but sadly not everyone (including me) has that money.

well....it seems your 900 was wasted......so you were half way there already
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A set of Konis, Dspecs, or something along those lines with a good spring would have not only been of better quality, but it would have handled better, and you wouldn't be having this issue right now. Of course it would have cost you more than $900, but there is no way you are getting anything decent for < 1k ever. Perhaps used, but then still......

Why not scour the FS section and find a good deal on a used setup that can do better than the megan's until you can scrape together the $ for a "real" setup ?
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Old 12-13-2009, 10:44 AM   #11
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You say you tightened everything - did you tighten the top nut?

Also, if you want coilovers 1900 is not "a nice place to start" - its damn near the only place to start. If you dont have it, youre out of luck.
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Old 12-13-2009, 10:25 PM   #12
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I have had the coilovers on for a year now. I think for sure it is the camber plates in the front. It literally sounds like there is space in between the coilover camber plates and my car, so every time I hit a bump you hear a metal on metal sound. Almost as if the coilover is bouncing up and down. But the bolts have been tightened all the way down. I even unbolted the two front and reinstalled them.

Perhaps I didn't save for the top quality parts, but I figured for 900 they would be decent.

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You missed one of Andy's questions - has it always done this?
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Old 12-13-2009, 10:29 PM   #13
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the top spherical bearings themselves are probably toast. Spherical bearings aren't really meant to take axial loads in the first place, so when you combine that with the cheapest one they could find (and they're probably too small) they wear out quickly.

Good tops generally have a nut insert so they can use a larger bearing.
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Old 12-13-2009, 10:55 PM   #14
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You missed one of Andy's questions - has it always done this?
No it started up about 3 months ago. Can this do any harm to my car? Or will it just create this annoying sound until I change them out?
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Well, if you leave it long enough the strut could potentially punch through the tophat, and that would definitely damage your car.
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You need to check:

-Top locking nut. If it is loose, they will make mucho noise.
-Spring preload, if they are loose, they will make mucho noise. You want about 3-4mm of preload on the springs.
-Pillowball bearing, if it has worn down or there is significant debris in there, it will make Muy Mucho noise.

While you're in there make sure your swaybars and endlinks are tight as well.

9 times out of 10 it's one of those 3 major things that are making nosie on those types of coilovers.

Hope that helps.
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