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Old 12-15-2009, 12:23 AM   #1
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my friends moms coworker (yes i know) has a 96 SVX that has around 105k on it. She is the original owner of it. Her AWD has gone out somehow and she is wondering why. The rear wheels are NOT spinning, but the front ones are. I guess she took it to a dealer or something and they said they think its the transfer case/rear diff or something along that line. She doesn't believe them for some reason, she thinks its something else. Could it possibly be anything else? She asked me to post up and see what i could find out.

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Old 12-15-2009, 01:28 AM   #2
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Seems to me like the center diff or the rear diff would be the problem. It would be easiest to tell if the car was driven on a lift in the air.
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Old 12-15-2009, 01:48 AM   #3
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Driveline fell off? lol It happened to my jeep. I suppose its possible lol.
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Old 12-15-2009, 09:09 AM   #4
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Seems to me like the center diff or the rear diff would be the problem. It would be easiest to tell if the car was driven on a lift in the air.
If i told her to do that, what could be the possibilities? If the front turns but the back doesnt, its the rear diff?

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Driveline fell off? lol It happened to my jeep. I suppose its possible lol.
i hope they would notice something like that heh
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Old 12-15-2009, 10:27 AM   #5
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I posted a response on SLCSubaru as well

Fuse box under the hood. The SVX has a tow option that will electronically disengage the rear diff.

Check that first.
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Old 12-15-2009, 10:28 AM   #6
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it could be the center diff as well. could be completely trashed and its slipping. Wonder if the car was ever towed on 2 wheels?
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Old 12-15-2009, 10:32 AM   #7
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true^^^

Could be any manner of things. That is the easiest, most logical solution though.

The SVX came with that feature, which is something most folks aren't immediately familir with. If you pull the fuse under the hood, it allows the SVX to be towed, or to use a donut on the rear to limp home.

If the fuse blew.... it would cause the same problem. There "should" be an indicator on the dash though that says she's in FWD or "limp" mode.
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Old 12-15-2009, 11:00 AM   #8
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This woman is smarter than most. I swear most of them don't even know there car has four wheels.





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Old 12-15-2009, 11:04 AM   #9
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I posted a response on SLCSubaru as well

Fuse box under the hood. The SVX has a tow option that will electronically disengage the rear diff.

Check that first.
I was going to post this. Foresters have the same fuse. It's a super easy thing to check and less than $1.00 to fix if it is the problem.

If that's not it tell her to take it to another dealer. Putting it on a lift would be easier than trying to figure it out on the forums.
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Old 12-15-2009, 11:06 AM   #10
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I believe all subarus have this feature but now it's not mentioned in the manual . I think they revised the manual on later models and only reccomend towing with with all four wheels off the ground and the fuse is used only if you are using the spare tire. They don't want it to be used for long periods of time since it is still hard on the car. Most people won't drive around on a spare tire for that long but people were pulling the fuse then towing the car across the country and subaru wasn't going to fix issues that could be caused by it.
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Old 12-15-2009, 11:29 AM   #11
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I think it depends on the car. I don't believe my car even has that fuse. My buddy has an 09 forester and the manual says put the spare tire on the back, and pull the fuse when driving. Just like what you are saying. It might depend on what kind of rear diff the car has. I am guessing the suabru fleet all have a similar setup, other than the STI with the DCCD with front and rear locking diff.
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Old 12-15-2009, 11:41 AM   #12
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Yeah I didn't think about the sti being different. But I will soon enough after the 6 speed swap.
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Old 12-15-2009, 12:36 PM   #13
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Whats her experience as a Tech. She takes it the dealer and then says it has to be something else? Not saying it can't be something else, but why take it to a dealer then disagree with them?
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Old 12-15-2009, 12:41 PM   #14
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I would try the fuse first, it is easy to check and cheap to replace but it could be a number of problems like mentioned before.
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Old 12-15-2009, 01:00 PM   #15
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I agree with stoner. If you don't like what htye say there isn't any reason to take it to the dealer. Try another dealer, if you the first guy gave off creepy oompa loompa vibes.
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Old 12-15-2009, 02:45 PM   #16
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the fuse only came on automatic cars. but the thing is, if there is no fuse in the holder then the car is in awd mode. the rear wheels only stop working if the fuse is in there. so if it is the fuse it wont cost anything to fix, just pull the fuse out
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Old 12-15-2009, 07:17 PM   #17
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This happened on my 93 Touring Wagon. It's expensive to fix ($800) or so, and the reason many do 5MT swaps on them instead of rebuilding/repairing the 4EAT.
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Old 12-16-2009, 12:47 AM   #18
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thanks for the responses everyone. i told her to check that out and she said shes taking it to another dealer to get looked at
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Old 12-16-2009, 10:11 AM   #19
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That's the best indea ever good luck, and I hope it works out!
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A&C Automotive in Murray also knows about this kinda stuff. Charlie works on Saabs and Subarus and would be a bit cheaper (and would do a better job) than the stealership(s).
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the fuse only came on automatic cars. but the thing is, if there is no fuse in the holder then the car is in awd mode. the rear wheels only stop working if the fuse is in there. so if it is the fuse it wont cost anything to fix, just pull the fuse out
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There is no fuse in the FWD slot, you have to put a fuse in there to disengage the center diff.

The FWD fuse is for DIAGNOSTIC PURPOSES ONLY.
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Old 12-18-2009, 09:56 AM   #22
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Chances are it's one of two things.

1) solenoid C - small solenoid that controls fluid path in the center diff
2) the center diff "basket" - this basket is welded to the transfer gear and works with the clutch packs. We had an SVX that the basket came loose from this gear. My research showed this is pretty common.
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