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Old 12-15-2009, 09:10 PM   #1
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Default Dyno Tune: Torqued Performance 09wrx 2.5L + 3076 + E85 makes 434whp

Just got done adding some more boost today, thanks to Eric Minehart of Torqued Performance for the tune, Perrin for their parts, and Import Image Racing for the remaining bits I needed to pick up. Driveability is great, power is a whole lot of fun that is going to take some getting used to. Funny how numbers work out, I made exactly double the HP a stock 09 wrx puts down on this dyno

Sorry for the bad pics but I have a crap camera

Event: dyno pull
Location: Carz Performance Lakewood CO
Ambient Temp: ~40 degrees
Elevation: 5480ft
Weather: sunny/cold
Tires: Hancook Ipike w409 snow tires, 225/45/17

Car: 2009 wrx
Tuner: Torqued Performance - Eric Minehart
Dyno Info: Superflow
Peak HP at RPM: 434 @ 5800 w/ 1.217 correction
Peak Torque at RPM: 423 @ 5100 w/ 1.217 correction
Baseline hp/tq for a stock on same dyno: 09 wrx 2.5 makes 217hp see graph
Target Boost: 22 psi
Target AFR: .82 lambda
Fuel: E85
Engine/Power Modifications: Perrin rotated 3076 .82 kit, perrin EL header, perrin fmic, grimspeed ebcs, 1000cc ID injectors, walbro, spt exhaust
Driveline Modifications: ppg helicals, ppg front diff, ppg transfer gears, act modified street clutch, stock flywheel
Suspension Modifications: stock suspension, various driveline bushings/mounts
Other Modifications: none




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Old 12-15-2009, 09:20 PM   #2
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Cool car. I know you can go lean on E85 but at least on my car there was no extra power by going that lean .
I amazed that the clutch is not slipping
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Old 12-15-2009, 09:26 PM   #3
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nice pull
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Old 12-15-2009, 09:27 PM   #4
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Cool car. I know you can go lean on E85 but at least on my car there was no extra power by going that lean .
I amazed that the clutch is not slipping
I'd have to get with Eric to confirm but I believe that the afr's in the graph/table are from the shops tailpipe wideband setup and Eric was tuning from the numbers logged from the wideband sensor I have in my downpipe so the numbers above may show leaner than what he was seeing in the downpipe.

That clutch better not start slipping, its only got 1000 miles on it and I like the way it feels
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Old 12-15-2009, 09:42 PM   #5
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What is the current IDC?
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Old 12-15-2009, 09:50 PM   #6
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Nice, seems to come on a little late for a 09 with 30r (dual avcs) but dyno's are misleading sometimes , on the street it may fullspool by 3500.... Good numbers ... Dare you to try and launch it.... MY act streetdisk wouldn't hold a launch once I tuned it over 400 wtq with airboy roaddyno... It would spin the tires through 1st then 2nd and once I hit 3rd gear it would just start burning the hell out of the clutch and the revs would just go straight to 6000 rpm range while I went no where but slower... I too seen no gains above 12.0 afr with E85 I even targeted 11.75 because the gains were very very minimal above that...
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Old 12-15-2009, 10:03 PM   #7
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What is the current IDC?
If I remember right, it was high 90's. We did do a pull at 26psi tapering to 22 I believe and the afr's were fine so dropping it down to where we are now, hopefully these injectors will be ok up that high in duty. That 26psi run sure sounded/looked nice but felt we better dial it back.

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Nice, seems to come on a little late for a 09 with 30r (dual avcs) but dyno's are misleading sometimes , on the street it may fullspool by 3500.... Good numbers ... Dare you to try and launch it.... MY act streetdisk wouldn't hold a launch once I tuned it over 400 wtq with airboy roaddyno... It would spin the tires through 1st then 2nd and once I hit 3rd gear it would just start burning the hell out of the clutch and the revs would just go straight to 6000 rpm range while I went no where but slower... I too seen no gains above 12.0 afr with E85 I even targeted 11.75 because the gains were very very minimal above that...
The 09 wrx's only get single avcs unfortunately, altitude kills us here too. I was worried about the bigger turbo, bigger hotside for lag, but honestly after driving it on the street I am glad I didn't go smaller. Sure there is more lag than the vf52 but to me its plenty acceptable for street driving. If I was at sea level I definitely wouldn't get anything smaller.

Not liking what I hear about that clutch, what did you upgrade to? I made one failed launch on lower boost. I have alot of learning to do on driving the car, it will be awhile before I try launching again so hopefully this clutch will last me a little while.
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Old 12-15-2009, 10:34 PM   #8
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If I remember right, it was high 90's. We did do a pull at 26psi tapering to 22 I believe and the afr's were fine so dropping it down to where we are now, hopefully these injectors will be ok up that high in duty. That 26psi run sure sounded/looked nice but felt we better dial it back.



The 09 wrx's only get single avcs unfortunately, altitude kills us here too. I was worried about the bigger turbo, bigger hotside for lag, but honestly after driving it on the street I am glad I didn't go smaller. Sure there is more lag than the vf52 but to me its plenty acceptable for street driving. If I was at sea level I definitely wouldn't get anything smaller.

Not liking what I hear about that clutch, what did you upgrade to? I made one failed launch on lower boost. I have alot of learning to do on driving the car, it will be awhile before I try launching again so hopefully this clutch will last me a little while.
Actually altitude help you as far as the injectors go, at see level u would have probably need ID2000s or a inline pump or double pumpers.

You can get a 6-puck but driveability suffers, twin or triple disk if you want something that drive nice.
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Old 12-15-2009, 10:54 PM   #9
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Actually altitude help you as far as the injectors go, at see level u would have probably need ID2000s or a inline pump or double pumpers.

You can get a 6-puck but driveability suffers, twin or triple disk if you want something that drive nice.
Yup, gotta keep in mind that my numbers are with a 1.21 correction factor so its not as taxing on injector, clutch, and motor as it seems. Usually I cuss altitude for loss in spool and power, but it is helping me be nicer to parts

At least we get e85 stations on every corner here. I'd love a twin or tripple but damn that's a lot of money.
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Old 12-15-2009, 10:56 PM   #10
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I have not upgraded the clutch yet.... car is parked for the winter and I sold the 30r, so I am thinking I am going to get a 6puck or something that will be able to handle the 40r thats going on the car in the spring... FYI from a roll the act street disc always held...only when I would beat on it and dump the clutch from a 5 mph roll or from a stop it would slip like mentioned above... I know its nice, having E85 available, MN has the most E85 stations in the country( I have a map with all of them too lol)...
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Old 12-16-2009, 02:11 AM   #11
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Nice car! I'm jealous.. You live in CO? Me too! I'm trying to go stage 2 on mine. =) Nice numbers man!
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Old 12-16-2009, 04:17 PM   #12
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I have not upgraded the clutch yet.... car is parked for the winter and I sold the 30r, so I am thinking I am going to get a 6puck or something that will be able to handle the 40r thats going on the car in the spring... FYI from a roll the act street disc always held...only when I would beat on it and dump the clutch from a 5 mph roll or from a stop it would slip like mentioned above... I know its nice, having E85 available, MN has the most E85 stations in the country( I have a map with all of them too lol)...
Good to hear, i don't really launch the car. On the street most of my fun is roll-ons getting on the highway/etc. Probably no launches until spring when I start trying to get ready to attempt a decent 1/4 run, so hopefully I should be good for awhile.

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Nice car! I'm jealous.. You live in CO? Me too! I'm trying to go stage 2 on mine. =) Nice numbers man!
Yup, I'm in northern colorado. Stage2 on e85 up here is a lot of fun
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Old 12-16-2009, 04:28 PM   #13
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Good to hear, i don't really launch the car. On the street most of my fun is roll-ons getting on the highway/etc. Probably no launches until spring when I start trying to get ready to attempt a decent 1/4 run, so hopefully I should be good for awhile.



Yup, I'm in northern colorado. Stage2 on e85 up here is a lot of fun
cool! You have to keep mind that a clutch for a 5-Speed has a lower torque rating than the clutch for a 6-speed like my friend TDagen.
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Old 12-16-2009, 04:34 PM   #14
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Good to hear, i don't really launch the car. On the street most of my fun is roll-ons getting on the highway/etc. Probably no launches until spring when I start trying to get ready to attempt a decent 1/4 run, so hopefully I should be good for awhile.



Yup, I'm in northern colorado. Stage2 on e85 up here is a lot of fun

That's pretty cool man I think carzperformance has the cheapest OpenEcu tune here in CO. Every where else its $350+
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Old 12-16-2009, 04:58 PM   #15
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cool! You have to keep mind that a clutch for a 5-Speed has a lower torque rating than the clutch for a 6-speed like my friend TDagen.
I am running the 5 mt clutch actually , my 5mt blew up and I just figured I would use the 5mt Clutch till it dies haha ...
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Old 12-16-2009, 05:35 PM   #16
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But Juan is right the 6mt clutch/pressure plate is s little bigger so it holds more....
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Old 12-16-2009, 05:54 PM   #17
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But Juan is right the 6mt clutch/pressure plate is s little bigger so it holds more....
I'm used to bigger sbc parts, when my 5mt clutch kit showed up I chuckled at how cute it was
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Old 12-16-2009, 06:06 PM   #18
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I am the tuner of this car and it really came together quite well.

IDC's(In Romraiders Logger) Where close to 100%, However these Injectors can easily handle High IDC's, Also The higher boost run did had IDC's close to 110% in the logger but AFR's were consistent. The AFR's are around a gasoline equivalent 12.0:1. I have found this is a good AFR for max power. Any leaner doesn't help out much. Getting down to low 11's can rob you of power.

High Altitude is a whole different animal. Our cars spool much later here. A VF52 usually hits peak torque around 3800 RPM so This isn't all that laggy really. Also this turbo recovers very quickly, so whenever RPM's are above 4500 there is no lag. Just instant boost. You don't even need to take the car to redline to keep the power on.

Maybe next year with a built block and turning up the fuel pressure, we could easily break 500 WHP on e85.
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Old 12-17-2009, 12:15 AM   #19
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congrats eric, awesome numbers man!
p.s I want a ride in this beast while im in co on christmas break!
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