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Old 05-20-2002, 10:04 AM   #1
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So which wax is the best, lasts a long time, and shine. Is the polyshield stuff any good, it is supposed to bont to the paint. Anyone ever used a poly paint sealer?
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Old 05-20-2002, 01:38 PM   #2
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I like Blackfire it is a new polymer. Available from classic motoring accesories
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Old 05-20-2002, 01:57 PM   #3
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Supposedly Zaino Brothers is the best. I haven't tried it though.
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Old 05-20-2002, 02:00 PM   #4
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what he said. Zaino is time consuming to do but turns out great.
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Old 05-20-2002, 02:04 PM   #5
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It's a polymer though, not a natural wax, so it doesn't bead up water like real wax does. It does give a very very deep shine though, from what I've seen.

I gotta get off my arse and order some.
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Old 05-20-2002, 02:12 PM   #6
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I use Finish First. It is liquid wax that is by far the easiest I've ever used. And you get awesome, deep shine. You can put it on and leave it in the garage overnight; then take it off the next day. Wipes off almost completely with one swipe. Great stuff.
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Old 05-20-2002, 03:18 PM   #7
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Griot's Best of Show is excellent, as is Zymol Japon Wax (for Japanese cars) or Zymol Carbon Wax (for dark cars) or Sovernaun (sp).... etc

http://www.autopia-carport.com

Is basically an unlimited source of info.
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Old 05-20-2002, 03:34 PM   #8
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Zymol (and not the junk at pep boys)
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Old 05-20-2002, 03:57 PM   #9
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Zaino's is not hte same as Zymol. Zaino's can only be purchased online and is the preffered of that name(s)

However, as mentioned before, Griots Garage is the best out there and used on many many show cars. Although a bit pricey for some items, you get what you pay for.


If your looking for better tehn good but not great results, Meguiars is also good, they have a 3step solution that is rather good, but they also have a whole lineup of professional quality stuff that can and will break the bank if you buy all of them but not all are needed of course.


Personally for off the shelf stuff, here is what you can get with pretty good results and minimum shopping fuss

3M swirl mark remover
Meguairs Show car glaze
Meguairs Yellow wax
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Old 05-20-2002, 04:14 PM   #10
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The best in my opinion is Zymol Carbon for dark colored cars and Zymol Cream for light colors. Before waxing use Clay Majic spray and bar then Zymol HD cleanse. Once your done waxing you will never use anything else. http://www.emmonscoachworks.com/home.html This the cheapest place Ive found for these products.
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Old 05-20-2002, 04:22 PM   #11
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It's a polymer though, not a natural wax, so it doesn't bead up water like real wax does. It does give a very very deep shine though, from what I've seen.
Not True at all, my zaino beads! Also the car is a lot easier to wash after the zaino. The dirt seems to just fly off of the paint.

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Old 05-20-2002, 05:10 PM   #12
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Klasse is easy to apply and seems to be lasting relatively quite long. Very nice shine as well. Anyone else has experience with it?
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Old 05-20-2002, 05:55 PM   #13
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I will give another vote for Zaino. I used to always use Mothers wax which is good too. Zaino takes alot alonger, but its worth it
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Old 05-20-2002, 08:29 PM   #14
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I will give my vote to Zaino as well.

Although some of you may feel that zaino is a Polymer and not a true "Wax" the fact remains that true waxes arent always the best solution for our cars anymore.

Zaino and other polymers provide a level of protection that carnauba waxes can't come anywhere near. If you were to use Zymol Carbon on your car and wanted a nice shine you would be able to achieve that, most people who use carnauba like to say that it makes thier car "glow" , but zymol provides little protection and has very little durability. Carnauba waxes have a low melting and evaporting point and on a black car using a carnauba wax on a 80-90 degree day you will be lucky to have it last a few weeks. Also, carnauba waxes contain Parrafin which can tend to "tint" the car a little off from its true color, I am not saying this is bad, many people prefer the look of carnauba color compared to polymer but I prefer to see the "true" color of my car. Last, an application of zaino compared to any carnauba wax is almost apples to oranges, if you apply zaino properly it is the easiest "wax" to apply and remove. If your car is a garage queen you will not have to worry about durability though.

Meanwhile, using a polymer (such as zaino or klasse) you get a much higher level of protection and durability. Zaino is known to last 6 months on a few coats and it is able to survive through harsh winters and scolding summers. Zaino is said to provide almost a plasticy shine to your car while klasse is said to provide a deep wet look.

so in the end all it is pretty much what you want out of your wax. Durability, Type of shine and Protection. You will get a glowing beautiful shine with a carnauba but will lack the durability and the application can be tough. With Zaino you get a reflective plasticy shine and you will have the highest durability and ease of application. With klasse you will have a deep wet look and ease of application and durability.

The argument of zaino over klasse could go on for years just the same the argument of carnauba over polymers would go on forever. It is all in the eye of the beholder which wax you decide to use.

But there is one last thing to remember, your car will NEVER have the perfect shine you want without proper preparation, this includes, claying, swirl mark removal and other steps to get your paint to the point where the wax can take its full effect.

Thanks for your time

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Old 05-20-2002, 10:21 PM   #15
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Griots Garage has some good products...

but i too have to say that Zymol has done my cars (both of them) very well!

the rally car has a clear coat on it... and it looks great!!!
even 6 club rallies later!!!

good luck in whatever you decide!
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Old 05-20-2002, 10:25 PM   #16
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ZAINO,ZAINO, ZAINO!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 05-21-2002, 12:48 AM   #17
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I agree, Zaino!
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Old 05-21-2002, 01:02 AM   #18
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It's a polymer though, not a natural wax, so it doesn't bead up water like real wax does. It does give a very very deep shine though, from what I've seen.

I gotta get off my arse and order some.
I must strongly disagree. As a matter of fact i think it beeds wather a little bit better than rainx dose on my windshield. Also makes the car much easier to wash. its like cleaning a teflon pan.

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Old 05-21-2002, 08:09 AM   #19
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I've never tried Zaino's - might have to try it someday.
But right now I'm using both Pinnacle and Griot's wax and I'm very satisfied with the results.
Both of these waxes combine carnauba wax with polymers to give you the best of both worlds. Both of these waxes will last 5 to 6 months. Plus, there is something almost sensual in applying a good carnauba wax.
Pinnacle is a paste wax with very high concentrations of white (not yellow) carnauba. It is similar to Zymol except that it also contains polymers which help it to last longer than Zymol. And it smells good enough to eat.
Griot's Best of Show wax is a liquid which contains carnauba and polymers. Works very well also.
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Old 05-21-2002, 10:59 AM   #20
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How come no one has mentioned Megiuar's Gold Class?? That's what I used this last time and it's great! Nice deep shine, water sheets right off. Only complaint is drying time......it takes forever! I let it sit for about an hour and it was still a bit sticky in some spots. All in all, a really good wax w/ great results!
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Old 05-21-2002, 12:55 PM   #21
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Another vote for Zaino. Have been using it for a year and the results are excellent. The first time you use it, it is a pain because of all the steps from Claybar thru multiple coats, but after that, maintenance is incredibly easy. And if you have questions that the site does not answer, just pick up the phone and give them a call.
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Old 05-21-2002, 01:13 PM   #22
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Griot's is great from all I've heard...

Finish First was advertised a lot on Honda-Acura.net back a couple years ago when I was a member, it's good stuff supposedly...


I've used basic Turtle Wax the past couple of times. Not that I prefer to, but 100% natural hardshell wax is a bitch to find.

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Old 05-21-2002, 01:17 PM   #23
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zainos again.............best i ever used. and definately beads better than that rain x crap.......I forget the link but somone did a comparison between zainos and zymol..........zainos won ever category... but again it was only 1 study....you will be happy with zainos but i agree off the shelf i think meguires gold glass is the best.

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Old 05-21-2002, 03:22 PM   #24
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Just Klassed the rod this weekend with All in One and Sealant Glaze. Works great and the application is easy. Just takes SG a while to cure.

I plan on putting another coat of SG on this weekend.

Paul

P.S. Nice thing about Klasse products as well, it will protect not only your cars paint but also plastic, vinyl, and glass.
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Old 05-21-2002, 03:31 PM   #25
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Let's see.

I currently use:

Zaino on the WRX (not garaged); Klasse topped with Souveran carnauba on the garage queen coupe; Blackfire on the big sedan.

I used to use Zymol products (HD Cleanse, Carbon wax, Creame wax and Concours wax) on the coupe and sedan.

I can highly recommend Zaino, Klasse, Souveran (and most all the other Pinnacle products) and Blackfire. It is really a matter of preference.

Go to www.autopia-carport.com and visit the Autopia University to obtain information (and pictures) of all these products. That said, give me a properly prepared surface and I will make the car look better with Pledge than you probably will with any of these. It ain't the wax -- it's all in the prep.

Anyone want to buy my Zymol products? The finish looks good (maybe even great) for just about as long as it takes to apply. That says as much about the durability as the difficulty of application.
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