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Old 12-17-2009, 08:12 PM   #1
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Default are 5 point harnesses street legal

i put a harness bar and 5 point harnesses in my wrx i just want to make sure they are legal.
they are the auto power ones that are made for racing and sanctioned for track use
any info would be helpful
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Old 12-17-2009, 08:17 PM   #2
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You may want to check the local laws. From what I understand the "legal" safety belt has to be operated (for release) by a red "push button" for paramedics. That makes the camlocks, etc. illegal for road use. I have run many cars on the street with them though, and have yet to get a ticket.
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Old 12-17-2009, 08:59 PM   #3
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Ok Im just going to go ahead and say it but why would you ask if its legal AFTER you put it in and not the other way around?
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Old 12-17-2009, 09:07 PM   #4
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I bought my harness's from dj performance out of Ontario California and they have dot legitness stitched into them....so i think there are ways of making sure it's legal...depends what state you are in.
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Old 12-17-2009, 09:27 PM   #5
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The harnesses need to be D.O.T. approved. AFAIK the only D.O.T approved harness' are made by Schroth (I guess I stand corrected...above). They also make a 3 point direct fit version that clips into the rear seats specifically for a Subaru.

You said your belts are "made for racing and sanctioned for track use", I believe you're trying to say that you have FIA certified belts that are up to date. FIA certification is not the same as D.O.T.

IMO its not a good idea to run a 5/6 point harness on a car without a roll bar. The stock seat belt is designed to allow you to fold towards the center of the car during a roll over as is the stock seat made to collapse. With a 5/6 point belt set up like that you make your head the rollbar. The stock seat should still collapse but the way you have it is not the correct way to do things.

You didn't mention what you were using for a seat but you shouldn't be using a 5/6 point belt with the stock seat either.
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Old 12-17-2009, 09:46 PM   #6
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Call your insurance company and ask them what they think about your aftermarket seatbelt.
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:03 PM   #7
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Ok Im just going to go ahead and say it but why would you ask if its legal AFTER you put it in and not the other way around?
Even if we say that its illegal, are you really going to take it out?
btw here's a thread with some info on 4 point harnesses that was/still is being discussed: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1900339
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Old 12-18-2009, 01:06 AM   #8
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Why would you do this on a street car?

Is this is a dual purpose car, such as a weekend track warrior?

5 point harnesses do a good damn job keeping you in your seat. Not to mention, checking your blind spots and looking back is going to be difficult.

Also, if you get in a wreck, all the momentum is going somewhere; which is the place that is still unsecured: Your neck.

Now, I'm wondering how a 3 point harness will do in the street.
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I had this conversation before with a friend who has a lot of police officer buddies...from what I understand, if you have a harness (4/5/6 point) then you have to make sure to connect all of the restraints for it to be considered legal. So, if you're driving around the corner to the gas station and only put on your lap belts, you can get a ticket for not wearing your seat belt. Seems like a pain to have to worry about all of those restraints every time you get in your car.
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Old 12-18-2009, 09:38 AM   #10
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I had this conversation before with a friend who has a lot of police officer buddies...from what I understand, if you have a harness (4/5/6 point) then you have to make sure to connect all of the restraints for it to be considered legal. So, if you're driving around the corner to the gas station and only put on your lap belts, you can get a ticket for not wearing your seat belt. Seems like a pain to have to worry about all of those restraints every time you get in your car.
I wouldnt matter if you strapped yourself in correctly or not. If the harness is not DOT apporved then it is against the law to use on publi streets. There is another thread just like this going about a 4 point harness. There is only 1 or 2 companies that make a DOT approved harness and 1of those is schroth.
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Old 12-18-2009, 09:50 AM   #11
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The harnesses need to be D.O.T. approved.
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If the harness is not DOT apporved then it is against the law to use on public streets.

Just so you guys know, the DOT does *not* do inspections for things like this. It is up to the manufacturer to ensure compliance, and they may put the DOT name on it without further checks. That's why you see so many products which claim DOT legality (HID kits for example) that aren't.

You can't trust the packaging on this one.





That said - the engineers who developed your car did a lot of work to make sure the seat belts and airbags and chassis work together to protect you in an accident. It is very likely that a different harness would compromise that system, and very unlikely that it would make it better. I personally would run something like the quick-fit, so you can run stock belts on the street and a harness on the track.
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Old 12-18-2009, 10:16 AM   #12
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I wouldnt matter if you strapped yourself in correctly or not. If the harness is not DOT apporved then it is against the law to use on publi streets. There is another thread just like this going about a 4 point harness. There is only 1 or 2 companies that make a DOT approved harness and 1of those is schroth.

I meant for it to be considered legally using your seat belt. Obviously you can't just throw 4 straps in a car and call it legal because they are hooked together.
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Old 12-18-2009, 10:22 AM   #13
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Here's some tough love for you, might save you a few head aches going forward.

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