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Old 12-18-2009, 04:26 PM   #1
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Default Mitsu Evo X 2.0L + FP Red @ 25 psi

Whats up everyone? I recently had the chance to be able to put the FP red on my car. First what I can say is this turbo is go big or go home. This turbo just loves boost, but for a stock block Evo X boosting anything over 25psi on pump was just not safe. Mind you I daily drive the car. We finally got her dialed in last night and I already got the mod bug to do the meth kit to run more boost lol. Even with the red I put down 340 awhp/290 awtq , we have a low reading dyno. But we had another Evo X in here that had a red also make the same power and he ended up running a 11.9@116mph with a 1.9 60ft. So this just goes to show you how low our dyno is reading. But if thats not enough proof of our low reading dyno, a bone stock GT-R put down only 380 awhp. As many people said before numbers aren't everything, boy were they right. I took the car out for a spin and this thing just pulled all the way to redline. Also the car is butter smooth from down low all the way to redline. I actually don't mind the turbo spooling a little later so my dump doesn't have to open at low rpms.. My mods list and dyno graph is below so enjoy!

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Dyno Info: Mustang
Peak HP at RPM: 336whp @ 7000rpm
Peak Torque at RPM: 290 wtq @ 4600rpm
Baseline hp/tq for a stock on same dyno: 215/200 on our Mustang dyno
Target Boost: 25 psi
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Old 12-18-2009, 04:34 PM   #2
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You need to crank it up or something, those numbers are way lower than I would expect from that turbo!!
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Old 12-18-2009, 04:48 PM   #3
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That does seem extremely low, hopefully see better numbers with the meth. You need cams!
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Old 12-18-2009, 04:52 PM   #4
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numbers seem ok to me for that turbo, boost level, and dyno. But what's up with the AFR dip? It looks like its causing the dip in power in that spot as well.

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Old 12-18-2009, 05:59 PM   #5
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Well.. when do cars with 340 whp and a 1.9 60 ft ever get into the 11's? I personally think that their dyno's a little kookoo
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Old 12-18-2009, 06:39 PM   #6
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Quit focussing on the numbers and look at the trap speed and times. It obviously has some good power no matter what the dyno reads
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Old 12-18-2009, 06:48 PM   #7
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You need to crank it up or something, those numbers are way lower than I would expect from that turbo!!

Even with the red I put down 340 awhp/290 awtq , we have a low reading dyno. But we had another Evo X in here that had a red also make the same power and he ended up running a 11.9@116mph with a 1.9 60ft. So this just goes to show you how low our dyno is reading. But if thats not enough proof of our low reading dyno, a bone stock GT-R put down only 380 awhp. As many people said before numbers aren't everything, boy were they right.


reading > you.
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Old 12-18-2009, 07:20 PM   #8
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Very nice power still climbing at 6800 RPMs!

If your caught up on #'s game that would make over 400WHP easily on any other dyno than a Mustang. I think that is even really low reading for a Mustang. None the less always a heart breaker. Getting on a Mustang Dyno is like getting tuned on a Dynojet on 100* day no mercy for the Dyno Queens on either

Forget the Meth just get bigger FI/FP and join the Corn Army

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Old 12-18-2009, 08:28 PM   #9
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The numbers are low but this turbo does not shine until you throw meth and run 30psi on it. But at this power level another Evo X of ours ran an 11.9... again dynos are just pure tuning devices, at the same time we don't mess with our correction factors or anything as we try to keep everything as honest as possible

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Old 12-18-2009, 10:30 PM   #10
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Nice Alex must be a blast to drive now...
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Old 12-19-2009, 07:25 AM   #11
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what does a stock sti put out on your dyno?

that usually translates better for some of the dyno number people.
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Old 12-19-2009, 12:19 PM   #12
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Your dynograph looks similar to mine except im running a hybrid WRX with a TD05 20G at 20.5psi on a mustang dyno.
But your whp is still climbing, it would be interesting to see what it does beyond 7000rpm.
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Old 12-19-2009, 02:33 PM   #13
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Well.. when do cars with 340 whp and a 1.9 60 ft ever get into the 11's? I personally think that their dyno's a little kookoo
Trapping 116mph with ~340whp is very much the standard for most realistic dynos .

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Old 12-19-2009, 02:40 PM   #14
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Well.. when do cars with 340 whp and a 1.9 60 ft ever get into the 11's? I personally think that their dyno's a little kookoo
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Trapping 116mph with ~340whp is very much the standard for most realistic dynos .

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<325-330whp here Airboy Road dyno, 12.1@115.5 with 1.85 60', and weight reduction
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Old 12-19-2009, 07:26 PM   #15
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No offense, but why does this forum allow other cars besides Subarus to be shown in various sections? Is this not a Subaru forum or should it be a SubaEvo forum since the majority of cars mentioned besides Subarus are Mitsus, specifically the Evo.

BTW, again, no offense. This is a great looking graph and car, but curious why this forum allows other cars to be on it?
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Old 12-19-2009, 08:03 PM   #16
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what does a stock sti put out on your dyno?

that usually translates better for some of the dyno number people.
well i put down 238whp/237wtq on a cobb stg2 ots map before getting protuned by John. it is a low reading mustang dyno but its really not about the numbers. Anyway nice numbers Alex. Getting the meth kit and retune with higher boost will wake this thing up
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Old 12-19-2009, 11:56 PM   #17
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As with your other thread, please follow the format in the following link to avoid this thread being closed
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1858764

For future reference, that is a required format to give the best reference points possible to the readers and make as much of a 'level playing field' as possible. Thank you
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Old 12-20-2009, 12:27 AM   #18
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that that seems really low, i had a friend make 360 on the stock turbo running 28 psi, and meth with a open source tune. stock heads and bottom end. ext wast gate and some port and polishing work done. car was pretty fast
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Old 12-20-2009, 01:01 AM   #19
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Trapping 116mph with ~340whp is very much the standard for most realistic dynos .

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That's what I was thinking.. 11.9@116mph isn't that great for a red..
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Old 12-20-2009, 08:00 AM   #20
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Can't believe that you are running stock clutch. Couple frds of mine slipped their clutches in cobb stage 1.
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Old 12-20-2009, 10:01 AM   #21
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I dont think the actual numbers are that bad given the dyno and the boost he is running. He said straight away that he was limiting the boost to the level he did because of concerns over the block....this should sound familiar to the subaru community....

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Old 12-20-2009, 12:38 PM   #22
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A few things....You are right we should not put the Mitsu tunes here and the rules should have been followed as to the form of the post. I will have this fixxed Monday.

First the fuel curve looks to be fluctuating due to the resolution of the scale. It goes from 11.7 -11.4 under load. I did not realize this was going up here so I did not look to chime in on it. I should have had Alex print out a better curve.
Second, this car has a stock clutch an a few Agency Power parts, not what we would normally use...lol

I tuned this car on the conservative side(I know everyone says the same thing...lol) it runs 7deg tapering to 16deg at redline on 25PSI. If I added fuel and tried to add timing or boost it would detonate. I also played with the MIVEC maps to maximize the spool and power.

Alex did not want to run 27 -28PSI(where this turbo will shine) on pump gas. To be honest, I do not blame him. This is his daily, once we throw Meth on there and he is ready to build the block, we will go all out for numbers.

This car will run 11s, but we want to see it run low 11s very soon. When we rework the mods and meth, we will put a follow up post.

Thanks guys.


....I just finished putting the break in miles on our 2008 Suby, that will make some good numbers too. I will be sure to post with plenty of pics.

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Old 12-20-2009, 01:35 PM   #23
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That's some pretty good numbers there..
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Old 12-20-2009, 04:27 PM   #24
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Old 12-21-2009, 05:18 PM   #25
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Can't wait for your to turn up the wick!

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Can't believe that you are running stock clutch. Couple frds of mine slipped their clutches in cobb stage 1.
What? you mean the extra 30ft/lbs or whatever stage 1 gives you was enough to slip a stock clutch? No way the stock Evo clutch is that weak...
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