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Old 12-21-2009, 02:47 AM   #1
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Angry If someone can fix this PC problem, I'll pay them.

I'm so sick of this ****, I'll never buy another nvidia product again.


Here's the deal. I'll be using Photoshop, then the screen will go completely black for a second or two, then I get this:



Photoshop then stops responding and I have to force quit it. It seems to be happening more frequently, and it's a huge problem because I need to be able to use Photoshop for work.

I'm on Win 7 (bought it specifically hoping it would fix this problem), and I had a the same problem on Vista, but it was called nvlddmkm or something. My graphics card is a GeForce GTX 280 hunk of ****.

I've tried about 5 different versions of the driver, that didn't fix it. I've read about similar issues on many different forums, tried some of the things mentioned and nothing works. I don't want to buy a new card, or any other hardware/software. I've talked to two of my IT friends, they're at a loss. Nobody knows how to fix this.

So I turn to the trusted OT, maybe Q can fix it.



Urge to kill rising...
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Old 12-21-2009, 02:49 AM   #2
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I'm by no means an expert, but does it make any weird noises when it happens? Possibly a fan going out? That would be a pretty cheap fix I think.
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Old 12-21-2009, 02:51 AM   #3
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I'm by no means an expert, but does it make any weird noises when it happens? Possibly a fan going out? That would be a pretty cheap fix I think.
No, I got the card in July, so it's fairly new, and it did it back then too, but not as often.
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Old 12-21-2009, 02:54 AM   #4
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Error code with it?
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Old 12-21-2009, 02:58 AM   #5
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No, I got the card in July, so it's fairly new, and it did it back then too, but not as often.
Well that was about my full knowledge of video card problems . I can serve you no further in this debacle. I apologize
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Old 12-21-2009, 03:01 AM   #6
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Error code with it?
I don't have anything, where would one find such code?
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Old 12-21-2009, 03:04 AM   #7
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http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device...m_timeout.mspx

Have some fun with registry keys, try changing the timeout delay or try turning off the detection all together.

be sure to back up your registry first.
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Old 12-21-2009, 03:06 AM   #8
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RastaMon,

Is there any specific trigger in PS that causes the program to crash? Did you do a clean install of 7 or upgrade from vista?

check this out:
http://www.overclock.net/pc-games/60...rnel-mode.html
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Old 12-21-2009, 03:08 AM   #9
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http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device...m_timeout.mspx

Have some fun with registry keys, try changing the timeout delay or try turning off the detection all together.

be sure to back up your registry first.
Oh this looks like fun.

I can't deal with this tonight, but I'll look at it later when I'm fresh and caffeinated.

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RastaMon,

Is there any specific trigger in PS that causes the program to crash? Did you do a clean install of 7 or upgrade from vista?

check this out:
http://www.overclock.net/pc-games/60...rnel-mode.html
Heh, I've looked at that forum, it's a clean install of 7. As for anything that specifically triggers, I've noticed that it happens more frequently when I'm using the paint brush or pencil.
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Old 12-21-2009, 03:10 AM   #10
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****ing WDDM...

more complicated drivers = more complicated problems.



one would think that whatever causes this would be have been worked out for 7 if the problem started with Vista.
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Old 12-21-2009, 03:11 AM   #11
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No, I got the card in July, so it's fairly new, and it did it back then too, but not as often.
RMA your video card, penis breath.
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Old 12-21-2009, 03:11 AM   #12
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****ing WDDM...

more complicated drivers = more complicated problems.
So...Q can't fix this?
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Old 12-21-2009, 03:12 AM   #13
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32 or 64 bit 7?
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Old 12-21-2009, 03:13 AM   #14
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32 or 64 bit?
32...
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Old 12-21-2009, 03:14 AM   #15
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code is not really my thing...

you said you tried different drivers,
did the problem repeat with driver version 190.62?

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I've been experiencing the same problem with 191.07. I tried it 2 different times in the official Release Candidate of Windows 7, build 7100 (64-bit), and then again in the 64-bit retail version of 7 Home Premium. But no matter what, the driver will stop responding and then successfully recover. It can happen at any time, too: while I'm scrolling in Firefox. While I'm sitting at my computer doing nothing but eating. While I'm playing a game. While I'm clicking on link. It just seems to be very random.

All 3 times it happened, I went back to 190.62, and everything was and is fine. So, I recommend going back to 190.62. But be sure to use Driver Sweeper. Here's the best way to use it:
  1. Uninstall 191.07 using the Programs and Features control panel.
  2. Reboot into Safe Mode (hold F8, even before Windows begins loading).
  3. Open Driver Sweeper, and choose "NVIDIA - Display".
  4. Click Clean.
  5. Reboot normally.
  6. Install 190.62.
If 190.62 has any problems, then do the same thing and try 190.38.
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Old 12-21-2009, 03:15 AM   #16
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code is not really my thing...

you said you tried different drivers,
did the problem repeat with driver version 190.62?
Yeah, the driver version didn't seem to matter.
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Old 12-21-2009, 03:16 AM   #17
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did you make sure you removed all traces of the previous drivers?

you may need to use the program they recommend in the bit I quoted for you
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Old 12-21-2009, 03:17 AM   #18
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did you make sure you removed all traces of the previous drivers?

you may need to use the program they recommend in the bit I quoted for you
+1, (those instructions are on the link i posted a couple back too, and people had good success with them)
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Old 12-21-2009, 03:17 AM   #19
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Oh, I even turned off the Open GL drawing option in Photoshop, that didn't do anything.
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Old 12-21-2009, 03:18 AM   #20
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Nvidia must have got some new coders or something because all their recent drivers have sucked failboat loads of ass. I have a 9800GT and I should be using 19x.xx but I keep getting crashes (partially Valve's fault) but since I downgraded to 182.50 it has worked flawlessly. Someone should be fired.
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Old 12-21-2009, 03:18 AM   #21
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did you make sure you removed all traces of the previous drivers?

you may need to use the program they recommend in the bit I quoted for you
I'll try that tomorrow, I'm too tired right now.

I'm going to bed, thanks guys, I'll check this tomorrow and probably bump it at some point.
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Old 12-21-2009, 03:20 AM   #22
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go to safe mode and remove the drivers that way with the program they recommend, then use driver 190.62 or something earlier


if that doesn't work, take the card out and smash it with a hammer, and order one of the new ATI cards.

order it from newegg but make sure they ship it fed ex...
UPS ****ing breaks everything.
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Old 12-21-2009, 03:21 AM   #23
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Nvidia must have got some new coders or something because all their recent drivers have sucked failboat loads of ass. I have a 9800GT and I should be using 19x.xx but I keep getting crashes (partially Valve's fault) but since I downgraded to 182.50 it has worked flawlessly. Someone should be fired.
This is why i never upgrade my drivers unless there's a problem with them. I have also used nvidia GPUs for many years and never had any issues
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Old 12-21-2009, 03:36 AM   #24
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GTX 275 is doing the same thing on win7. I don't feel like upgrading drivers (takes too long and has a high chance of fail). I'm just happy that it's not blue screening and that win7 recovers after a few seconds. Yes, I know that it shouldn't be doing it in the first place, but I recognize that a very painful experience was reduced from several minutes to 5 seconds.

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Old 12-21-2009, 03:45 AM   #25
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Use paint instead.
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