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Old 12-22-2009, 12:30 PM   #1
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Default 2008 LGT Spec B -P&L Motorsports V-Band GT30R Kit - 390WHP, 93 oct

Event: dyno pull
Location: P&L Motorsports, Franklin Park, IL
Ambient Temp: 65.09F
Elevation: 660ft
Weather: Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow...

Car: 2008 LGT Spec B
Tuner: Jorge
Dyno Info: DynoJet
Peak HP at RPM: 390.02 Uncorrected
Target Boost: 20.5 PSI
Target AFR: 12-11.5:1
Fuel: 93oct
Engine/Power Modifications: P&L GT30R Turbo Kit, DW 1000 CC injectors.



The inductive pickup was freaking out, so reverse calculating torque was 350 lb/ft at 3500 RPM.

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Old 12-22-2009, 12:39 PM   #2
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Scale in mph ftl.....
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Old 12-22-2009, 02:38 PM   #3
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Looks like it'd be a nice sleep setup...sounds like good torque too.
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Old 12-22-2009, 03:01 PM   #4
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do you have a graph showing the numbers with rpm?
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Old 12-22-2009, 03:29 PM   #5
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Damn, thats some spool right therr. Car must feel great!
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Old 12-22-2009, 03:58 PM   #6
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Scale in mph ftl.....
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Old 12-22-2009, 05:20 PM   #7
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do you have a graph showing the numbers with rpm?


Read the bottom of the 1st post...

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Old 12-22-2009, 11:09 PM   #8
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I would love to see a Dyno Run.
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Old 12-22-2009, 11:21 PM   #9
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what kind of intercooler is the car running?
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Old 12-23-2009, 11:10 AM   #10
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A spearco TMIC.

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Old 12-23-2009, 12:56 PM   #11
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Nice to finally see one of the LGT guys jump on board!
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Old 12-23-2009, 01:58 PM   #12
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Read the bottom of the 1st post...

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i was wanting to see the graph with the corresponding rpm. i want to see where he is making hp/tq at certain rpm. i am really interested in a GT30 for my spec.b and this makes me more interested.
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Old 12-23-2009, 02:11 PM   #13
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I'd trade my sti for a spec b
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Old 12-23-2009, 02:28 PM   #14
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i was wanting to see the graph with the corresponding rpm. i want to see where he is making hp/tq at certain rpm. i am really interested in a GT30 for my spec.b and this makes me more interested.
Well that's what I mean. The data isn't there, we didn't have an inductive hooked up. But, if you are ambitious, that run was done in 3rd, and you can simply calculate your RPM points by MPH in that gear, cross reference your HP on the graph, and reverse calculate torque.

If (Torque * RPM) / 5252 = HP... THEN

(X * RPM)/ 5252 = HP.... solve for X.

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Old 12-23-2009, 10:48 PM   #15
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I was expecting at least one "Thats to lean" post??? Good job Jorge.
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Old 01-08-2010, 12:43 PM   #16
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Default The marketing side of it!!!

Another quick little factoid, the turbo kit was a development for a customer and as a future product. That's why there is a post about it.

Sigh...wish the owner was a forum bugger. Well, I'm going to have to spill the beans on the marketing side of it.

The kit - P&L Signature Series V-Band 30R
  • All V-band flanges
  • Tial V-band exhaust housing
  • All Tial Stainless V-band Clamps
  • Complete kit includes everything else that our previous kit comes with
  • P&L Motorsports GT30r and GT35r Turbo Kits Include:

    Garrett GT3076r Turbocharger (.63 A/R or .82 A/R)
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    Garrett GT3582r Turbocharger (.82 A/R or 1.06 A/R)

    (Larger turbos available, must contact us for further information and project review/management)

    * -8 AN Oil Feed and Drain Lines
    * -8 AN Water Feed and Drain Lines
    * All V-Band clamps and necessary hardware
    * Heat Reflective Blankets for Feed and Drain Lines

    Polished Stainless Steel Up Pipe

    * Welded Stainless Steel "Triangle Bracket" on Wastegate Flange for Added Support
    * Stainless Steel Bracket for Added Mounting Support
    * Swaintech Coating Available

    Polished Stainless Steel Downpipe

    * Downpipe to Cat Back 3" Flat Gasket
    * Two o2 Sensor Bungs (stock o2 sensor & wideband o2 sensor)
    * Two o2 Sensor Bung Closure Bolts Included
    * Stainless Steel Flex Pipe Section
    * High Flow Cat Available
    * Swaintech Coating Available

    Tial 44MM EWG

    * Colors Other Than Silver Available Upon Request
    * EWG Re-route to Downpipe Available
    * V-Band Connections
    * Polished Dump Tube (Or Re-route Pipe if Applicable)

    Polished Aluminum Cold Air Intake

    * Beaded Pipe Ends Ensure a Leak Free Connection
    * Giant K&N Air Filter for Maximum Flow
    * Integrated 3" Big MAF housing For Proper Tuning Capability
    * Cold Air Intake can be Substituted for a weld in 3" Blow Through MAF Housing
    * Cold Air Intake can be Substituted for a full 4"
    Short Ram Intake for Speed Density Systems

    Turbo to Y Pipe Elbow

    * Beaded Pipe Ends Ensure a Leak Free Connection
    * Easily Connect Your Stock Location TMIC Set Up to Our Rotated Kit
    * Elbow can be Substituted for Turbo to Front Mount Intercooler Pipe (Please contact us for custom FMIC piping solutions)

    Oil Catch Can

    * High Temp Hose and Connector Fittings
    * Air/Oil Separator Upgrade Available (TMIC & FMIC Versions Available)

    Stainless Steel Braided Power Steering Line

    * AN Connection Fittings for Leak Free Connection

    Stainless Steel Braided AVCS Line

    * AN Connection Fittings for Leak Free Connection

    Misc.

    * Assorted Zip Ties for a Clean Install
    * All Misc. Gaskets - Subaru OEM Where Available
    * All Misc. Silicone Couplers

    Detailed 84 page Instruction Manual

    * Full Color Pictures & Easy to Follow Directions
    * Tuning Calibration Data Included for our Intake MAF Housing


http://www.pandlmotorsports.com/osCo...roducts_id=303

We've made a perfect direct fitment for the Legacy and have ensured that there would be no, absolutely no quirks to deal with. There are significant differences between this kit and our other off the shelf kits. As all of them,yes they are made to order and yes, you must have proper supporting mods. Read further on what I mean on supporting mods.

This vehicle was an added introduction to what can incur when we do something that has a limited effect. The reason why I say limited is due to the little extra spending needed to run such a kit.

Above was listed that the vehicle has a Spearco TMIC, I was waiting till somebody would post a quote "SPEARCO...?". As the knowledge goes the spearco is not applicable to a simple, stock, plastic intake manifold. True, thus the need for a little spending for a STI intake manifold.

End result, a bad to the bone kit that is able to create an atmosphere and feeling in the Legacy yet to be properly delivered by other turbo systems out there.

Jorge did his thing and there we have it.

I've driven the car myself and when going to lunch with the customer, we had a very in depth, very serious almost evil grin the whole way there and back. We knew we had made this kit with thoughts of power and reliability but now we've turn the thoughts to a relative and physical product with the numbers to support.

We will be creating a direct bolt in kit for a stock version intake manifold with a proper adapter to the TMIC but have yet been able to dedicate an allotted amount of time needed for the physical production of it.

The product pricing and further information of the product will be posted in due time. We will also be adding this product to our 2010 parts catalog.

Thank You to all for the support and keep an eye out for the kit's debut!!!

-Mark

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Old 01-08-2010, 06:40 PM   #17
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looks like a sick curve!

what were the corrected numbers?
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Old 01-08-2010, 07:04 PM   #18
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so how come this kit made 50whp more than the 93 oct graph on your site?

is the graph on your site with a 3071?

how come only 20 psi? save the tranny?
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Old 01-08-2010, 07:54 PM   #19
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I was expecting at least one "Thats to lean" post??? Good job Jorge.
fixorzed

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That's too lean for making 0.00 tq.

There's no possible way you can launch the car with no torque.

(0*RPM)/5250=HP
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Makes me want a spec B as a daily - but with a 30 I'd need a new new daily

Nice graph, looks smooth and fun !!
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Old 01-14-2010, 02:22 PM   #20
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so how come this kit made 50whp more than the 93 oct graph on your site?

is the graph on your site with a 3071?

how come only 20 psi? save the tranny?
No transmission saving, the graph shown on the web page was completed about 2 years ago. Could have been conservative tune, different times of the year and remember, there is always a progression.

Whether a mechanic or a tuner, they always have a progress in their field due to knowledge that is constantly fed to them. Improvement is imminent, so are the product structures, designs and their end goal.

Doesn't mean that the car can be any slower than the LGT, just means that the number goal is biased on many variable.

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Old 01-14-2010, 02:35 PM   #21
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Old 01-14-2010, 06:37 PM   #22
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Old 01-14-2010, 10:55 PM   #23
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Why is the AFR so "perfect" across the board? ie, it is at "perfect" even at essentially "cruise"
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Old 01-14-2010, 11:19 PM   #24
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Why is the AFR so "perfect" across the board? ie, it is at "perfect" even at essentially "cruise"
Maybe I am missing the part in the graph that represents "cruise?"
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lets see some pics! and vids
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