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Old 12-25-2009, 08:50 PM   #1
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Default 02 WRX Wagon Stock 2.0L Blouch TD05 7cm^2 20g Tuned By AMS

This is the final setup until something large and expensive breaks, its a very mild tune and the tq was kept down to save my trans as long as possible, however, I couldn't be happier with how the car drives. Very linear and useable power even at only 5psi, I would say 5psi from this 20g would equal 10psi from my previous Deadbolt Super16g, the difference in efficiency is immediately noticeable. On the street, 10psi by 3200 and 20 by 3800 in 3rd.

With this setup I was going for efficient power. Keeping the hot things hot and the cool things cool, seemed to work out very well. Car runs like a dream.

I apoligize for the graph, I will update this with the actual file once I get back from Christmas Holiday, until then, this will have to do.

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Deadbolt Super16g IWG setup
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Detachwerks 720cc inj
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Perrin Dual Tube Catback ( Crazy loud )


Blue Line Mods ( RED is unchanged ):

Blouch TD05 7cm^2 20g w/ Blanket/EWG
APS DR500 FMIC & Piping
Tial 50mm BOV
Grimmspeed EBCS ( Love this thing, h8 the perrin )
KSTech 73mm CAI
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Grimmspeed 38mm EWG Uppipe + 38mm Tial Wastegate
Perrin Divorced Wastegate Downpipe
Greddy EVO1 Catback mod full 3" ( quieter than stock ftw! )
Exhaust fully wrapped from headers to first bung on DP


20g spools as fast as a 16g, I love it!



I would like to thank Chris @ AMS for his answering of my endless questions and a great tune! Also Dave, Rico, Jon, and Jess ( even though I never made it there lol ) you guys know who you are!

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Old 12-25-2009, 09:32 PM   #2
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As a current DB Super 16g owner, I'm always on the lookout for comparisons like these. Nicely done.

One question; Why did you choose the 20g over the FP HTA68?

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Old 12-25-2009, 09:43 PM   #3
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Because the 20g is a balanced turbo, unlike the very unbalanced hta68. Been there And done that with the DB Super16g, just not my cup of tea. Also, from all the testing and hundreds of threads I have gone through, the hta68 just doesn't cut it on the 2.0. Besides, I'm hardly leaning on the turbo now, it has a LOT more in it except I don't have the trans to support what the turbo is capable of. Once the trans goes a v7 6 speed will be the replacement. Then we will really see what a 20g can do on the stock block.
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Old 12-25-2009, 09:43 PM   #4
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Old 12-25-2009, 10:21 PM   #5
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Nice........can't wait to see the final product when you get your 6 speed. On a side note if your turbo was a TD06 I would seriously ask you to trade with me
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Old 12-25-2009, 10:39 PM   #6
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It's a true TD06 compressor housing, but so are all Blouch 20g's. The hotside is a TD05 though, figured it would work better with the 2.0 since I can only rev to 7k atm, more displacement or wind it out longer and I would have tried to pick up a TD06.

I did a a lot of research before going with this turbo, and a lot of what I found had to do with 2.5l motors. What I came across was that the general consensus of the 20g, is that many people felt the STi should have come with this turbo stock, apparently it just suits the motor very well. I'm sure that has a lot to do with the 6 speed providing the gearing to let the turbo shine, which is why I'm going to be living like a bum for the next couple months trying to save up for one!
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Old 12-26-2009, 01:51 PM   #7
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Congrats on your dyno run! I love your stealth black intercooler, it looks so clean with it.
Good choice on the Blouch 20g. As for as the tranny goes if u shift granny slow and dont launch it...it cant...(scratch that) can take more power imo.

TD06 overrated imo.

EDIT: can take more power.

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Old 12-26-2009, 01:55 PM   #8
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How much boost are you running?

What type of dyno was this on?
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Old 12-26-2009, 03:19 PM   #9
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20psi was the target boost I believe, it's what I max at on the street anyway. And the dyno is a dynodynamics I think, it's the only awd dyno on the island so it's what we got to work with.

I need my 5spd to last 4 or 5 months, so I didn't want to push it too much.
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Old 12-26-2009, 04:57 PM   #10
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Did u get the port and polish with your 20g?
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Old 12-26-2009, 07:55 PM   #11
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it's a dynojet. nice numbers regardless.
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Old 12-26-2009, 07:59 PM   #12
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Very nice. I made the exact same hp and 3+ lbft with my 18g at 19psi. It's awesome power isn't it? I'm in the same tranny boat as you. Oh well.
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Old 12-26-2009, 08:44 PM   #13
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nice numbers Ryan, see you guys in a week
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Old 12-26-2009, 09:31 PM   #14
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Why did you swap your headers from the grimmspeed to the gruppe-s??
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My stock, P&P'd headers were great for the time I had them. However, there is a point where they do become restrictions. If I had my pick I would have gone with Tomei UEL or EL headers, but they are a little pricey. Also, I really like the sound of them. You still get a slight rumble, but not the deafening drone of the stock headers with my wagon ( lots of resonating in the cabin during cruising )
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Old 12-27-2009, 12:08 AM   #16
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I don't get back until the 4th but will have to come say whats up!
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Old 12-27-2009, 12:37 AM   #17
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Your Super16G setup should have spooled faster.
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Old 12-27-2009, 12:54 AM   #18
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My stock, P&P'd headers were great for the time I had them. However, there is a point where they do become restrictions. If I had my pick I would have gone with Tomei UEL or EL headers, but they are a little pricey. Also, I really like the sound of them. You still get a slight rumble, but not the deafening drone of the stock headers with my wagon ( lots of resonating in the cabin during cruising )
Yeah Tomei is pricey but worth every penny, as the old saying goes "you get what you pay for"
AMS FTW, 2.0L power FTW


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Old 12-27-2009, 01:34 AM   #19
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Considering your on a stock 2.0L and a mild tune, those are pretty decent numbers. I would not be ashamed to have those numbers at all. Playing with the current tranny game myself. Nice to know someone isn't afraid to push it a little more.
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i am making 318whp and 313 tq on e-85, and im still on the stock tranny, and clutch. it's all in how you drive it. my buddy made around 370whp on his hta68, and he was still on the stock trans.
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Old 12-29-2009, 02:40 PM   #21
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that car must be fun to drive. so when do I get a ride?
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Old 12-29-2009, 03:11 PM   #23
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I get back on the 4th, u need a ride for sure, not as torquey as your car but pulls!
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Because the 20g is a balanced turbo, unlike the very unbalanced hta68. Been there And done that with the DB Super16g, just not my cup of tea. Also, from all the testing and hundreds of threads I have gone through, the hta68 just doesn't cut it on the 2.0. Besides, I'm hardly leaning on the turbo now, it has a LOT more in it except I don't have the trans to support what the turbo is capable of. Once the trans goes a v7 6 speed will be the replacement. Then we will really see what a 20g can do on the stock block.
Nice car! Our cars are almost identical except for the EWG and FMIC (which I have considered but decided to leave well enough alone).

Indeed the 20g does have more in it. My car was limited to 360 due to a flow restriction somewhere (I was thinking the 7cm td05 combo on the hotside, but I didn't want to push the stock block much harder than that anyway so I never bothered to look for it).

Are you heavily into road racing? I have an 06 USDM 6 speed and I couldn't imagine having even shorter gearing than that with the JDM 6 speed you mentioned but I could see where it would be a big advantage on a road course. If anything I wish the gearing was a bit longer for the wide powerband the 7cm td05 20g gives on a 2.0.
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Because the 20g is a balanced turbo, unlike the very unbalanced hta68. Been there And done that with the DB Super16g, just not my cup of tea. Also, from all the testing and hundreds of threads I have gone through, the hta68 just doesn't cut it on the 2.0. Besides, I'm hardly leaning on the turbo now, it has a LOT more in it except I don't have the trans to support what the turbo is capable of. Once the trans goes a v7 6 speed will be the replacement. Then we will really see what a 20g can do on the stock block.
A little confused by this...what do you mean the 20G is a balanced turbo, and an HTA68 isn't? Define balanced...just curious to see what substantiates this, as a 3mm larger wheel would by no means be unbalanced.

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It's a true TD06 compressor housing, but so are all Blouch 20g's. The hotside is a TD05 though, figured it would work better with the 2.0 since I can only rev to 7k atm, more displacement or wind it out longer and I would have tried to pick up a TD06.

I did a a lot of research before going with this turbo, and a lot of what I found had to do with 2.5l motors. What I came across was that the general consensus of the 20g, is that many people felt the STi should have come with this turbo stock, apparently it just suits the motor very well. I'm sure that has a lot to do with the 6 speed providing the gearing to let the turbo shine, which is why I'm going to be living like a bum for the next couple months trying to save up for one!
There's no such thing as a TD06 compressor housing. A TDXX designation is a Mitsubishi turbine side, in this case the TD05. The hotside doesn't have anything to do with this either.

I had basically the same turbo as yours, but in a 8cm2 version on my 2.5 and it definitely made good power, and with all the torque was a blast with the 6-speed.

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My stock, P&P'd headers were great for the time I had them. However, there is a point where they do become restrictions. If I had my pick I would have gone with Tomei UEL or EL headers, but they are a little pricey. Also, I really like the sound of them. You still get a slight rumble, but not the deafening drone of the stock headers with my wagon ( lots of resonating in the cabin during cruising )
Go EL, you lose the rumble but you gain everything else. Had those too.

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Yeah Tomei is pricey but worth every penny, as the old saying goes "you get what you pay for"
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