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Old 10-28-2011, 06:12 PM   #576
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Keep in mind comparing car to car, especially on different dynos (not as in different kinds, as in not the exact same dyno) and on different days is not worth doing. Apples to oranges. The dyno numbers should only be used as a hp comparison for before/after gains. And that should be done the same day, in a short period of time.
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Old 10-29-2011, 08:03 AM   #577
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It's a 99 RS. A Stock 99RS came with 140 BHP.
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it came with 160hp, at the crank, in 99.
Actually, it was rated @ 165bhp and 166ft-lb.

As for what it "should" put down on a dyno, as stated, it depends on the dyno. For whatever reason, based on what I've read on various forums and based on my own personal experiences (on Dyno Dynamics, Dynojet, and Mustang dynos), it seems to me that Mustang dynos have the most variability from one shop to the next. Dynojets and DDs seem quite repeatable, and deliver numbers that are quite different (DDs being lower). I've seen some shops with Mustang dynos that put out DD-like numbers, and some that put out Dynojet-like numbers. Such is life.
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Old 10-29-2011, 10:30 AM   #578
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I agree Patrick, the dyno itself has a huge impact on the numbers it puts out. I would like to get my car on a dyno jet and see what it does, in comparison to the mustang dyno.
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Old 10-29-2011, 01:01 PM   #579
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I can tell you that the calibration on the local Mustang right now is VERY stingy. A brand new 5.0L mustang with no mods put down 310whp. Another local mustang dyno, with a different cal, usually shows 360/370 on stock 5.0 mustangs.

Point being, and as mentioned, dynos are useful tools for back-to-back testing, but sometimes don't show the full picture.
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Old 10-31-2011, 06:18 PM   #580
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The mustang dyno at J & S reads low a stock 07 2.5i (170 chp) tested out around 93 whp...
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Old 11-12-2011, 09:33 AM   #581
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Scrolling through 3 pages on my phone is a pain bump
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Old 11-21-2011, 08:23 AM   #582
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Well....we are absolutely frustrated and upset with the hydra on the 99. After weeks of back and forth emails it is still not correct, not working and holding up production of the headers. We haven't updated anything bc the hydra is not right and refuses to work as a plug n play unit so we having nothing to post except for frustration Were looking into sending it back and were looking at other solutions, bc we want this final test to be completed so we can move on to production.

Jay, what are you running for engine management? Let me know bc we might be making a switch.
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Old 11-21-2011, 09:35 AM   #583
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if these headers ever do come into production...would they be plug and play for a 2001 RS?
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Old 11-21-2011, 12:07 PM   #584
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never herd from you guys about my issue with needing a set ASAP.

sorry to say, but i had to go with some borlas again to fix my exhaust leak. this whole process is taking way to long.
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Old 11-21-2011, 12:27 PM   #585
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I'm running a 97 2.2L ecu no engine management needed for me, just some headers so i can dump these bad sounding EL headers...
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Old 11-23-2011, 02:55 PM   #586
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Forget about the hydra for now. Just build the headers, let the customers deal with the tuning.
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Old 11-23-2011, 05:05 PM   #587
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if these headers ever do come into production...would they be plug and play for a 2001 RS?
Yes they would be plug and play
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Old 11-23-2011, 05:17 PM   #588
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never herd from you guys about my issue with needing a set ASAP.

sorry to say, but i had to go with some borlas again to fix my exhaust leak. this whole process is taking way to long.
Did you call again? I returned all the calls i had from you, but pm me and let me know.

We could have produced a set ASAP for you, but the price would have been more than double (almost triple) what were planning to charge for the production models and I didn't think per our conversation that would have been an option.

It does take long, but before we invest more and more money into production, we want to make sure what we are producing is up to our satisfaction in the power, quality, price and repeatability departments so that our customers (you) are happy. We have produced two separate turbo headers and a few other products in the time it's taken to do this n/a header, and there are many reasons for that. I'm sorry we couldn't meet you're time frame, but we have to do what we have to do during these preproduction processes.
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Old 11-23-2011, 05:18 PM   #589
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Update: hydra in enroute to CA for updates so that it's actually PnP for the RS.
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Old 11-23-2011, 05:22 PM   #590
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Forget about the hydra for now. Just build the headers, let the customers deal with the tuning.
Great idea, but we need answers for customers if they call regarding tuning, the effects of the header on an untuned car, etc. Literally after we tune the car with proper AFR's and we see what it does, were ready to go!
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Old 11-23-2011, 05:37 PM   #591
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I will volunteer for the untuned car!!! If you want to test a set... Let me know!
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Old 11-28-2011, 03:29 PM   #592
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I will volunteer for the untuned car!!! If you want to test a set... Let me know!
And me.....

If you need a car running higher compression set-up with SRS-30....
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Old 11-29-2011, 02:40 PM   #593
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I will volunteer for the untuned car!!! If you want to test a set... Let me know!

It has already been on my car untuned and why we are trying to get my car to run with the Hydra. My AFRs were in the toilet, hence why we are trying to fix them.
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Old 12-01-2011, 01:27 PM   #594
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It has already been on my car untuned and why we are trying to get my car to run with the Hydra. My AFRs were in the toilet, hence why we are trying to fix them.
Did you test them with the stock headers too? I would figure that's the whole benefit to any reflash is to fine tune the stock pig-righ AFR's and lean them out a little. I'm gonna have a SRS-30 on my car anyway, so I would figure it would be pretty decent as a plug-n-play system. Definitely better than stock.
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Old 12-01-2011, 06:25 PM   #595
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Hydra will be back on Tuesday!! Thank god! Hopefully b/c of this project we've helped them with there calibrations on the ecu and it can truly be a PnP setup for others in the future.
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Old 12-02-2011, 05:50 PM   #596
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Did you test them with the stock headers too? I would figure that's the whole benefit to any reflash is to fine tune the stock pig-righ AFR's and lean them out a little. I'm gonna have a SRS-30 on my car anyway, so I would figure it would be pretty decent as a plug-n-play system. Definitely better than stock.

Ran the car stock, just a CBE, full exhaust (untuned). So the final step is full exhaust + Hydra. The SRS-30 was going to be my other option, but decided against it because I couldn't fully tune it for what I wanted and didn't get the two step.
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Old 12-07-2011, 10:02 PM   #597
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I would be interested in seeing a video of a N/A 2.5 with a headed on the newer subie's
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Old 12-29-2011, 12:57 AM   #598
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Hope everyone had a Merry Christmas. Or Kwanza if you swing that way...

Bumpin' for an update...
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Old 01-16-2012, 12:21 PM   #599
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Any news on the header/Hydra/dyno front?
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Old 01-23-2012, 03:17 PM   #600
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