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Old 01-05-2010, 06:59 PM   #1
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Default Maxwell Power Dyno Tune: 2006 WRX, Built Motor, ATP GT3076R, 16psi = 380whp

16psi track day tune on a TMIC. The target for this tune was as linear a power band as possible.

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Location: Maxwell Power Services in Arlington, WA
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Car: 2006 WRX Wagon
Owner: Mike McIntyre
Tuner: Dominic Acia of Maxwell Power Services (DomTune)
Dyno Info: DynoCom
Peak HP at RPM: 380 whp uncorrected, 367whp SAE corrected @ 6750rpm
Peak Torque at RPM: 334 ftlbs uncorrected, 323 SAE Corrected @ 4400rpm
Baseline hp/tq for a stock on same dyno: 175whp
Target Boost: 16psi
Target AFR: 11.3
Fuel: Pump 92oct
Method: COBB AP

Engine/Power Modifications:

*MPS Power Factor SS 2.5L shortblock: JE Pistons, full blueprint,
*Kelford R-199-B Cams, Ferrea Valves and Manley Springs, 11mm oil pump
*ATP GT3076R
*TMIC
*ID 1000cc injectors, TGV Deletes, APS 3" Inlet, Grimmspeed Spacers, Grimmspeed DP


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Old 01-06-2010, 12:17 AM   #2
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Nice fat power band all the way to redline!!!! Very nice Dom!

I should be over there in early spring for tuning, can't wait.

I think you should post a pic of the car on all your threads if possible.
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Old 01-06-2010, 12:34 AM   #3
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wouldnt you want all the mid-range tq for the track?
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Old 01-06-2010, 06:56 AM   #4
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what does this dynocom dyno read like. when I had the 20g setup on my car tuned by Tim Bailey the car made about 350 whp on Buschur's Mustang dyno (known as a low reader the car ran 116 mph at the track 1/4 mile) then we took it to the dynocom here in Indianapolis at E-motor a few months later when Tim was in town and it did 416 whp with no changes. do all dynocoms read like you have a super car?
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Old 01-06-2010, 07:18 AM   #5
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Which hot side did this 3076R came with?

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Old 01-06-2010, 08:04 AM   #6
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This is my car,and Dom tuned the torque out of it until I change the trans. My prior tune was done by Tim Bailey on a mustang at 317/344[old motor,great tune].Butt dyno tells me this motor makes alot more power up top;these cams make a big effect from 5000 up.This motor is so smooth it is really fun to drive.Someday I will have Dom turn this motor up and have even more fun.[27mpg on highway is nice also; I checked it for 120 mile trip going over 2 mountain passes and putting my foot in it some and got 25.4 mpg]
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Old 01-06-2010, 10:16 AM   #7
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Which hot side did this 3076R came with?

Tnx,
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The standard ATP stock location housing. ~.7x A/R.
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Old 01-06-2010, 10:51 AM   #8
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The standard ATP stock location housing. ~.7x A/R.
Ok, thanks.
.7x -ish is about 10cm² right? Would make a nice comparison then to the new DOM3 XTR, which has now 10cm hot side, hence the question

Would be nice to know what this combo would make at 20 psi, which seem to be sort of a benchmark for turbo-engines comparison.
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Old 01-06-2010, 10:58 AM   #9
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Peak HP at RPM: 380 whp uncorrected, 367whp SAE corrected @ 5600rpm
I see peak RPM for max hp at 6750, not 5600 rpm??
Am I reading it wrongly?
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Old 01-06-2010, 11:21 AM   #10
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wouldnt you want all the mid-range tq for the track?
Obviously people have different opinions on what a track car should be like. To me, nothing beats a flat torque curve and a linear hp curve. It makes the car feel like a big N/A V8. This makes the power easy to manage. A sudden jump in torque and hp makes a more difficult car to drive on the track as you exit corners.

Also, as silver-duck said, we kept the torque lower on purpose to help out his transmission. However.... well we tried, right?

Lastly, with these cams, the car isn't going to make the normal high peak tq that suby owners are used to seeing on factory cams/heads.

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what does this dynocom dyno read like. when I had the 20g setup on my car tuned by Tim Bailey the car made about 350 whp on Buschur's Mustang dyno (known as a low reader the car ran 116 mph at the track 1/4 mile) then we took it to the dynocom here in Indianapolis at E-motor a few months later when Tim was in town and it did 416 whp with no changes. do all dynocoms read like you have a super car?
Two big things to note for this tune/engine.
*1st, the cams. Cams go a long long way. Boost is a function of back pressure (or flow resistance). HP is a function of airflow. So if you lower flow resistance (cams), you increase airflow (hp) for the same boost pressure.
*2nd, a 3076 flows much more than a 20G.

Also, our dyno reads between a mustang and a dyno jet.

Was your HP the corrected or uncorrected value? I always include both. Mustang always gives corrected (as far as I can remember) and the dynocom gives you the option of observed (uncorrected) and SAE corrected.

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I see peak RPM for max hp at 6750, not 5600 rpm??
Am I reading it wrongly?
No sir, you are correct. I copied this format from my other threads in proven power bragging and forgot to change the RPM.
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Old 01-06-2010, 03:05 PM   #11
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looking good Dom!
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Old 01-07-2010, 11:12 AM   #12
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Can't wait to see this thing with the built 5 speed!!!

Congrats Mike!!
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Old 01-07-2010, 02:38 PM   #13
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It might be a while but someday it will happen. Thankyou for the kind words.
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Old 01-12-2010, 02:46 PM   #14
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turn da boost UP and post new graph PLEASE
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Old 01-12-2010, 02:47 PM   #15
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need working transmission first.
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Old 01-12-2010, 03:31 PM   #16
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I'm sorry, and I respect you guys very much, but I can't help but see these big number cars and think this dyno reads much higher than "between a mustang and a dynojet". My 61mm T4 .81ar, car made around that horsepower on 93 octane and 19lbs of boost.
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Old 01-12-2010, 04:41 PM   #17
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I'm sorry, and I respect you guys very much, but I can't help but see these big number cars and think this dyno reads much higher than "between a mustang and a dynojet". My 61mm T4 .81ar, car made around that horsepower on 93 octane and 19lbs of boost.
By looking at the thread of the VF43 making 340whp on 93oct it is safe to say that this dyno reads about 30-40whp higher than airboys/mustang

I think this car will trap 113-115mph
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Old 01-12-2010, 05:52 PM   #18
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By looking at the thread of the VF43 making 340whp on 93oct it is safe to say that this dyno reads about 30-40whp higher than airboys/mustang

I think this car will trap 113-115mph


^^^^^

I completely agree. But a dyno is just a tool, if the car is healthy and the owner is happy... thats all that counts.

As for how the dyno actually reads, this would be just about 300whp on a true mustang, and 330 on the airboy.. all signifying 113-115 traps.
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Old 01-12-2010, 07:29 PM   #19
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Any issue getting those valve springs to fit?
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Old 01-12-2010, 09:01 PM   #20
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By looking at the thread of the VF43 making 340whp on 93oct it is safe to say that this dyno reads about 30-40whp higher than airboys/mustang

I think this car will trap 113-115mph

you guys are totally missing something; the temperature.

There are very few dyno cells in the country that draw in air as cold as ours. 32 degree change in intake air temp is 10% HP. If you notice that the temps are 40 degrees, you can easily do the math. In the summer these same cars will make a LOT less hp (and most of them did). If it was 70 degrees, we'd lose 10%. On a 500 hp car, that's 50 hp. On a 400, that's 40. A lot of places are still 80 degrees doing dyno pulls.

I know each of you has driven your car when it's cold outside and noticed the extra power. These pulls are basically the power created during that time.

This last summer, we had a lot of people during our dyno sessions that made only a couple percent more than Surgeline and PIA's mustang dynos. This was due to the temperature being the same at both facilities.
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Old 01-12-2010, 09:02 PM   #21
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I'm sorry, and I respect you guys very much, but I can't help but see these big number cars and think this dyno reads much higher than "between a mustang and a dynojet". My 61mm T4 .81ar, car made around that horsepower on 93 octane and 19lbs of boost.


woops wrong thread. Thought this was craigs car.

do you have cams and a built motor? Cams make a HUGE difference.

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Old 01-12-2010, 09:20 PM   #22
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Nice stuff Dom. Sounds like you guys are kicking a** up there Keep up the great work!

For reference my stock '09 STi made 260 whp on this dyno last summer before final calibrations to the dyno were done.
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Nice stuff Dom. Sounds like you guys are kicking a** up there Keep up the great work!

For reference my stock '09 STi made 260 whp on this dyno last summer before final calibrations to the dyno were done.
thanks man,
haven't seen you guys in a long time. You still local?
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What did this car make SAE?
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^^^ its in the first post
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Peak HP at RPM: 380 whp uncorrected, 367whp SAE corrected @ 6750rpm
Peak Torque at RPM: 334 ftlbs uncorrected, 323 SAE Corrected @ 4400rpm
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