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Old 01-05-2010, 07:08 PM   #1
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Thumbs up Mishimoto M-Line front mount intercooler setup

So I decided that I wanted to build my own intercooler setup. I thought the Mishimoto M-Line was a cost effective alternative against Perrin and APS, and it was slightly bigger too. However, there is no piping, bracket, etc. Today we finished up the bracket for the FMIC system. I will finish up the piping soon, but I thought I would start the gallery thread for this project.



I don't think there's many people out there who have the mishimoto M-line for a FMIC. At first it appears to big, and it actually is for the stock bumper. To make it fit, a front splitter and lip must be added to help cover it up and provide protection. But, it DOES fit. Just barely, we are talking 1/4 inch clearance all around. Here is the pictures from the beginning stages of the install:








More to come soon. Tomorrow we will finish the lower brackets, and then at the end of the month I'll have the bumper back on with the lower lip and splitter, plus the piping in place for some finished product pics. Overall, this project is running smooth and it really is a cost effective alternative to the pricey Perrin and APS kits. Look at this below:

Cost per square inch of cooling surface
  • Perrin: $1500 for 129.5 sq. in. @ $11.58
  • APS: $1600 for 266 sq. in @ $6.01
  • Custom fabrication: $800.00 for 276.125 sq. in. @ $2.89

As you can see, mishimoto is really a great alternative. If you have the means and skill to fabricate stuff yourself, I say go for it. It's not easy, but it's not really that hard either. It just takes time, tools, and skill with metal fabrication.
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Old 01-05-2010, 07:11 PM   #2
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Looking forward to seeing the finished product. Nice work!!
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Old 01-05-2010, 07:14 PM   #3
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yeah me too! I can't wait. I'll admit this thread was started fueled by anticipation lol
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Old 01-05-2010, 07:31 PM   #4
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i thought about running a mishi intercooler but i dont want the end tanks and piping to start inside the bumper opening
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Old 01-05-2010, 09:53 PM   #5
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your right they will stick out a bit, but for nearly half the price I'm cool with that. Plus I use this car off road, so if I catch a massive rock in the fmic I can replace the mishi for 160 bucks. I will probably through a piece of mesh in front of it to help protect it. The bracket is made for off road use though, b/c it will have four connection points plus piping which will keep everything from bouncing around. Does anyone have clanking issues with their other fmic setups if they get rough with their car? I was curious about that..
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Old 01-05-2010, 09:58 PM   #6
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Very cool.
No pun intended.
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Old 01-05-2010, 10:09 PM   #7
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whats the pressure drop with that bad boy? lol
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Old 01-05-2010, 11:10 PM   #8
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Not sure, I wish I knew though. I'm doing as much anti turbo lag mods as possible to compensate though so it shouldn't be terrible. EWG, reverse manifold, etc. I would assume it's slightly higher than Perrin and APS due to it being slightly larger in overall size.. anyone know the numbers?
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if you're doing a custom setup did you ever think about building a v-mount?
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Old 01-06-2010, 01:26 PM   #10
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Yes I considered the V-mount, but I'm not rotated yet. When and if I go rotated I will probably convert to the v-mount.
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Old 01-14-2010, 07:10 PM   #11
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UPdate: lower part finished, check it out



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Old 07-17-2010, 02:50 PM   #12
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I have seen these Fmounts on ebay for 200 bucks with free shipping. Lets see you pics the links are dead.
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Old 07-17-2010, 02:54 PM   #13
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intercoolers are all about being efficient! not size, how does the mishi stack up next to the other companies?
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Old 07-17-2010, 05:39 PM   #14
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at least get a garett core and research how to properly make an endtank..or else, intercooling is half of turbocharging; that is all.
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no pictures.
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Ingenuitive, can't wait to see the finished product(pics are not working).
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Old 07-19-2010, 06:41 PM   #17
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here's the finished product, sorry for the delay:

you can see everything here:
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3358449

page 3 and four have some of the best pics on them.. I duno why the pics here got canceled ?
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Old 07-25-2010, 08:33 PM   #18
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Where did you get the piping from???? You have reverse intake mani. Id that an OBX????


Details.

Car looks like its ready for WRC.

I have been eyeing those foglight covers on ebay for months now....
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i have one of these IC's. i think it'll look huge in the front of the GC. unfortunately i still need a motor in order for it to work right?





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Old 07-25-2010, 10:52 PM   #20
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it might be a bit tall, but if you build a custom bracket, add a lip, and a light bar like I did it should cover it up just fine. I went with the prodrive style front lip, could have went bigger but I feel the other ones are rice. I like your scoob man, can't wait to see the mishi in there.. what are you doing with the motor?

The intercooler piping is from CX Racing, modified to fit the reversed manifold.. which is basically taking the last pipe and cutting it off, rotating it towards the center, adding the turboxs BOV pipe, some silicone, and using a bend from the left over piping. It's not perfect by all means, but it works. In the future I'm going to get one nice solid piece to replace all that silicone. The reversed mani is godspeed, here's a link.. that's actually my car their using in the photos lol.

http://www.godspeedproject.com/store...roducts_id=760

I also have the 70mm TB and 9mm phenolics, sits pretty high I had to cut the hood out to fit the sensors, as well as make a custom throttle cable bracket to make it all work.. that was cake though compared to the rest of the project lol.

Note on the manifold: If you are going to reverse the godspeed manifold, you must add a braided coolant line otherwise the stocker will rub raw and eventually cut right through.. either that or relocate the coolant feed line on top of the block.
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^^thanks for the advice man.

i'm def doin a 257 build with a rotate intake manifold setup and i'm still debating to go twin scroll. i'd like to shoot for around 375hp so nothin to crazy, i'm just trying to make it very clean.
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I apologize for the sub par photo, but the only thing that I don't like about the intercooler is it's tall...like really tall. Look how it sits over my grille lol! I also can confirm it being slightly larger than the APS dr 725, but I prefer the look of my APS over this. I was told when I purchased it that it was a 650whp core. I however purchased mine from Mishi's supplier and paid a bit less than $800 at the time.

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I apologize for the sub par photo, but the only thing that I don't like about the intercooler is it's tall...like really tall. Look how it sits over my grille lol! I also can confirm it being slightly larger than the APS dr 725, but I prefer the look of my APS over this. I was told when I purchased it that it was a 650whp core. I however purchased mine from Mishi's supplier and paid a bit less than $800 at the time.

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damn i paid less than $200 for mine!

but that does look cool on your car.
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damn i paid less than $200 for mine!

but that does look cool on your car.
I was just going by the OP's price, I paid about $350 shipped with piping that didn't allow me shut my hood lol.
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Old 07-26-2010, 12:19 PM   #25
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Yeah it is really tall, but I'd rather have it tall than long. This is my theory about tall vs long, and one of the reasons I bought the mishi (besides price)..I know it still has to fill volume to boost, but if it's taller than long, then when your not boosting it will flow better thus reducing lag. Even though I haven't been able to boost my setup yet b/c I'm still on break in period, my car is SUPER boost happy. I have to fight to keep it out of boost, and thats while running the 20g and FMIC setup. It might be the EWG & reversed mani though, but honestly I think the taller FMIC core has something to do with it. What do you guys think, or am I just off my rocker from 8 months of garage fumes?


I really like that green scoob man, good work! I like your garage too, wow talk about space to work. I'm jealous
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