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Old 01-09-2010, 05:23 PM   #1
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Default School me on the Nissan D21 4x4.

Anyone in here have experience with the nissan mini trucks? Im considering buying one for camping in the summer and hauling crap in the winter. Would I be better off buying a Toyota 4x4? What should I watch out for when buying one? any common problems with these trucks?
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Old 01-09-2010, 05:33 PM   #2
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Toyota is always better, but you also pay a premium for Toyotas because they are more desirable.

Honestly I'd say they're about the same, really. I haven't really ever heard of more or less issues with Nissans than Toyotas, but Nissans are generally cheaper. Just test drive both and see what you think
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Old 01-09-2010, 05:36 PM   #3
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cool.... thanks man.
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Old 01-09-2010, 05:37 PM   #4
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Those nissans are easy to work on... But no easier than the same gen Toyota... Get what fits better in your price range
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I had a similar vintage Toyota 4x4 pickup with the 22RE motor and a 5 speed. It was adequate I guess, but I really don't see why they are so popular. Mine was not especially reliable and parts weren't especially cheap. I'd opt for a newer Ford Ranger or Mazda if I did it again
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Old 01-09-2010, 05:42 PM   #6
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Yeah Nissans are defiantly cheaper. also ive heard the KA24 motor is better than the 22RE because of the timing chain not stretching.
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I had a similar vintage Toyota 4x4 pickup with the 22RE motor and a 5 speed. It was adequate I guess, but I really don't see why they are so popular. Mine was not especially reliable and parts weren't especially cheap. I'd opt for a newer Ford Ranger or Mazda if I did it again
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Yeah Nissans are defiantly cheaper. also ive heard the KA24 motor is better than the 22RE because of the timing chain not stretching.
The KA24 is a good motor. There's even mods for them now thanks to the 240SX community.

FWIW, I really liked my '96 Ford Ranger XLT. Other than the plastic-geared front hubs it was a good truck. It cost me $10k in 2001 and had relatively low miles (don't remember how many at the moment). $10k at the time would have bought me a much older Toyota.
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hmmm if never really been a fan of the ford rangers..... Dunno why.
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hmmm if never really been a fan of the ford rangers..... Dunno why.
I was really wanting a Toyota or a Nissan at the time. Ended up with the Ranger because it had everything I wanted (4x4, King Cab, long bed, 5spd manual) and was much newer and lower miles than any Nissan or Toyota I could find.

Beat the crap out of it, even hit a deer with it, it kept on ticking. Traded it in on my first WRX and still miss it to this day.
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hmmm if never really been a fan of the ford rangers..... Dunno why.
Like I said you could just get one with a Mazda badge on it, but they're the same thing. They're good trucks for half of what you'll pay for a Toyota.
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toy, nissan, mitsubishi, etc etc; none of those style trucks give a **** what you do to them as long as they have oil, basically. go for it.
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i had one for over 200,000 mi never burned oil, no major maintenance. miss that truck lmk if you get it i have nerf bars rhinolined that i parted off of it that i will give you to get them out of my attic. just shipping cost. maintenance is easy imo. only real expense was heater core and a/c units when they went out, tranny is strong and v6 engine was solid. i enjoyed modding mine. headers, true dual exhaust, intake, lift, wheels tires, shocks, rhino lining, lights, baja and nerf bars, remote oil filter placemnt was a nice treat made oil changes a snap and clean.

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Yeah Nissans are defiantly cheaper. also ive heard the KA24 motor is better than the 22RE because of the timing chain not stretching.
I had a 97. Other than having the common problem of timing chain clatter (the tensioner is hydraulic), it was freaking bulletproof.

If you want 4WD, it shouldnt be hard to find one with the clutch LSD in the rear. That is a pretty rare option on the 2WD however, but they are out there. I had one. My only complaint was that it was VERY tail-happy in the rain when pulling away from a dead stop. It did fine off road and in the snow though, so I cant complain too much.

As previously mentioned, they are dead nuts easy to work on. If I were buying one now, the main things to look for are body/frame rust and the condition of the underbody for a 4x4. Also, my dad has a '93 still, and with age, the driveshaft bearing/rubber (post transmission, right after the U-joint) has a bad habit of splitting and relieving itself of duty. His squeaked until we got a new one pressed on, and that wasnt an easy job. Also check the CV joints. They are notorious to crack and tear with age/abuse, and they arent much fun to replace.

Dont plan on buying one for gas mileage. I regularly got around 23 on the highway, around 18 in the city. My dad seems to be around the same, even with the 4WD lag. You can get away with pulling a small trailer, however, I wouldnt recommend it. With any kind of appreciable weight on the trailer, the truck struggles because it just doesnt have the power/torque.
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Good info. thanks guys. yeah i just went down to a couple car lots to check some out didnt test drive any though. they were all pretty beat.... ill just keep my eyes open for a nice little cream puff lol
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What year did the KA24 come from the factory fuel injected? I swear i searched but couldnt get a strait answer. some said it was 1988 others said 1991.
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My friend had the 2WD version of this truck and swapped a built SR20 into it. It was fast...when it got traction. I think he ended up tubbing the rear and putting some huge tires on it.
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I work at nissan dealership so im alittle basis. But Ive seen quite a few hardbodies over 300k
and still running strong. Ill check on monday and give you the right answer about the fuel injection question.
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I too work at a nissan dealership... Im the service manager...

We see Frontiers with issues, but the old hardbodies, not so much... We did have this kid that took his off roading all the time and the fine sand wore out his throttlebody butterfly shaft.... could not hold an idle, strange vacuumm leaks, etc...

the newer frontiers have hosts of issues all the time.

ugh. them and xterras, I HATE EM!
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wish i had enough coin to buy this thing on a whim-

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/For-t...item19ba91ed87
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Check out a Ford Ranger. The 4 cyl and 3.0L are indestructible. The 5sp transmissions are solid too.
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Check out a Ford Ranger. The 4 cyl and 3.0L are indestructible. The 5sp transmissions are solid too.
Yeah, I had an 88 ranger xlt for awhile it had 300k miles on it and it ran amazingly well for being the same age as me. 2.9 fuel injected v6 and 8.8 rear end. It was great.

It ended up just being a four wheeler. And that **** would crawl out of anything. It took all the hell I could give it.
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I had an 86 720D as my first truck, ran for a week with 1.5/2 qrts oil never gave me any problems i totaled it in a rollover, damn i miss that beast
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I work at nissan dealership so im alittle basis. But Ive seen quite a few hardbodies over 300k
and still running strong. Ill check on monday and give you the right answer about the fuel injection question.

300k! thats awesome!...
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www.motoiq.com is running a series of upgrades on their pathfinder, from an engine teardown and rebuild, to cams, etc... Great stuff in those threads.
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