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Old 03-06-2010, 12:20 AM   #301
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Your gunz are invalid. My subie is guarded by saw. =D




and an m-16 thats kinda hard to see
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Old 03-06-2010, 01:09 AM   #302
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oh. i was thinking horror movie zombies, like a SHTF scenario.

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Old 03-06-2010, 03:26 AM   #303
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Ill take my rifle vs your M16 sportin a blank firing adapter anyday.

Plus, my new rifle uses SAW barrel blanks.
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Old 03-06-2010, 03:43 AM   #304
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Here is my new baby. Looks like I posted the wrong link the other night. Mine is the Recce model aka midlength gas system.

Pics kinda suck as Im not a photographer.












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Old 03-06-2010, 03:58 AM   #305
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This man approves:

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Old 03-07-2010, 04:17 AM   #306
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Ill take my rifle vs your M16 sportin a blank firing adapter anyday.

Plus, my new rifle uses SAW barrel blanks.
LOL we don't even deploy with those ****ty a-2's. They're for training numbnuts.

nice rifle. you need some acog action.
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Old 03-07-2010, 05:47 AM   #307
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I have an ACOG but not sure if I want that or a red dot of some flavor.
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Old 03-07-2010, 11:44 AM   #308
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Looks good C-grunt!!
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Old 03-08-2010, 04:09 PM   #309
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you need the vortex with the glass break tips


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Old 03-08-2010, 06:26 PM   #310
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hahah why is that picture focused on your pants?
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Old 03-09-2010, 02:12 PM   #311
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hahah why is that picture focused on your pants?
took it with my phone while the vehicle was moving
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Old 03-27-2010, 01:21 AM   #312
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What are your thoughts on gas-impingment vs. piston?
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Old 03-27-2010, 03:41 AM   #313
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Went shooting on Thursday with some buddies. Visa were made with cell phone so picture quality sucks.

Here is me shooting a Beretta 92FS with an AAC suppressor. Good example of supersonic ammo vs subsonic.


Then we decided to see what happened when you shot a Surefire G3 flashlight out of a potato gun.


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Old 03-27-2010, 04:16 AM   #314
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What are your thoughts on gas-impingment vs. piston?
Here is a VERY good comparison for the two. Its pretty long though.


My opinion is that pistons are good guns, but I would advise you to buy a piston rifle and not get a conversion. because of the way a piston moves the bolt carrier group (BCG), a standard BCG will sometimes experience carrier tilt. This happens when the op-rod pushes on the plate on the top of the BCG and causes the rear of the BCG to tilt downward and gouge the buffer tube. Rifles that are made to be a piston gun utilize specially designed BCGs to counter this.

My big problem with a piston Ar is that there is no standard. Every company uses a different style piston. Therefor if the company you bought ever goes out of business, your pretty SOL if something breaks. With a DI gun, pretty much all parts from any manufacturer are interchangeable, if you buy a good weapon.

Also DI guns tend to be slightly more accurate since there is less stuff hanging on the barrel. The piston guns also have slightly more felt recoil from the extra moving mass above the barrel.

DI guns do run dirtier in the BCG area. But that doesnt mean its gonna be unreliable. Keep it lubricated and utilize good magazines. My old Colt had hundreds of rounds through it over about a year without cleaning and still ran great.

The thing about the AR is you need to know how they work and what needs to be of top quality.

Bushmaster for example. They make a good rifle and if you were just to use it as a fun rifle its great. But they do cut corners to lower production costs and this makes them not as good for a serious fighting rifle. Their BCGs usually have poorly staked gas keys and they use the lighter weight "semi auto" carrier instaed of the full weight "auto" or "M16" carrier. They also many times use the same parts for their rifles and their carbines. The two are not interchangeable. The buffer on the carbine should be heavier.

These two things slow down cycling a little and help lower chamber pressures before it starts extracting the spent casing. This increases reliability.

Now I use Bushmaster as an example, but they are not the only ones who do this.

Now you can buy a Bushy and buy another BCG and buffer from Bravo Company Machine and have a great AR-15.

Another thing many companies do is use the same front sight base for the standard A2 style and A4 flat top weapons. The flat tops should have the "F" marked front sight base as a normal one might not give enough adjustment to sight in a removeable rear sight.

My recommendation for good no corners cut AR is...

Bravo Company Machine
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Lewis Machine and Tool
Noveske

There are more but I cant think of them right now.

If you buy a good lower, you can order a complete upper form Bravo Company and have a superb M4 for under 1000 bucks. Buy an upper, a complete BCG, handguards and a charging handle. I think total its about 650 bucks for a good milspec M4 upper.

Best AR parts website.

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/AR15-...Groups-s/1.htm

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Old 03-27-2010, 04:27 AM   #315
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Aggh... I forgot the pros of the pistons.

Number one is short barrels. If you want a really short barrel like 10 or 12 inches, get a piston. The DI system wasnt made for that short of a barrel and can give you reliability preoblems. Thats not to say you wont get a reliable shorty, but its definitely not as common as rifle or carbine length system.

Second is when using a suppressor. With a DI gun the extra back pressure shoots a lot more gas into the BCG than normal. The pistons vent the gas out by the front sights so you dont get dirty.

Third is that the BCG runs a lot cooler and cleaner. The piston still needs to be cleaned and will get really dirty still, but the bolt area with be cleaner.
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Old 03-27-2010, 12:41 PM   #316
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I dont mind cleaning my guns...in fact I rather enjoy it. I also don't mind peicing together parts to make a better complete package. Sounds like the DI would be better for me. If I were to buy one, I'd go with flat top (no front sight either) and get some form of optics.
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took it with my phone while the vehicle was moving
probably a safe decision hahaha
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Old 03-28-2010, 04:26 AM   #318
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I dont mind cleaning my guns...in fact I rather enjoy it. I also don't mind peicing together parts to make a better complete package. Sounds like the DI would be better for me. If I were to buy one, I'd go with flat top (no front sight either) and get some form of optics.
Whats your budget for the rifle?
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Old 03-28-2010, 11:32 PM   #319
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Thanks for the video,I watched the whole thing.Its very informative
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Whats your budget for the rifle?
It'll really depend on when that times comes...figuring about $1500 currently.
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Old 03-29-2010, 06:25 AM   #321
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Shoot son... That will get a you a GREAT rifle!

Get a good lower and something like this http://noveskerifleworks.com/cgi-bin...since=&status= and you will have a very hard time finding a better AR.
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I know, dangerous to take phone pics while riding the passenger seat!
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