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Old 01-17-2010, 10:40 AM   #1
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Default Moore Performance Axleback for 93-05 impreza.....feedback wanted!

Moore Performance is going to start prototyping our N/A axleback tomorrow that should fit the 93-05 impreza and we are using a stock 00 impreza 2.5RS for our test car. I will look at a number of tip options tomorrow, and I'd like some feeback from you after I post pics, on which two you would like to have as "standard" tips. I can always provide additional tips, but I'd like to offer two of them to start. As soon as I have some pics and additional info about the prototype I will start a group buy with a deep discount, and I'll keep you up to date on this thread. Here is some prelim info about the product:

- retail pricing around $375 for the axleback
- every inch of the sytems would be made of 100% 304 SS (pipes, mufflers, tips, hangers, etc)
- lifetime warranty on the entire system
- mutiple exhaust tips and tip finishes (black chrome, etc)
- two muffler core options (changes the sound of the exhaust)
- 3/8" cnc cut 304 SS flange that will mate up to the factory midpipe location
- Mufflers, tips, hangers, flanges, and custom bent piping made from raw materials in house

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Old 01-17-2010, 05:35 PM   #2
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Make something similar to a Stromung dual tip with a straight-through (not chambered) design and I'd rock one.
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Old 01-17-2010, 11:07 PM   #3
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Make something similar to a Stromung dual tip with a straight-through (not chambered) design and I'd rock one.

That's the plan! The muffler design will be straight through, just like the mufflers on my turbo systems, but they'll offer good noise suppression with a great sound. I'm thinking of offering one single tip and one dual tip to start. I'll post pics as soon as I look over some tips again tomorrow. I'll post info as the prototype is built and I'm looking to offer a large discount for the first 10 items in a group buy. Thanks for the feedback!
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Old 01-17-2010, 11:12 PM   #4
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Here's my vote for chambered

Seriously, with headers, no cats, a non-resonated midpipe, a NA car is LOUD
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Old 01-17-2010, 11:50 PM   #5
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Here's my vote for chambered

Seriously, with headers, no cats, a non-resonated midpipe, a NA car is LOUD
But we're talking about an axleback here. I want one for my DD, which would have zero other drivetrain mods. So straight-through is great. Guys who are doing full exhausts with no cats should be buying full catbacks.
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Old 01-17-2010, 11:56 PM   #6
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So what about the guy that buys this axleback, then later buys the rest of the exhaust? Now his axleback is too loud and it was a waste of money. It's easier to make an NA car too loud in search of power than it is to accidentally make it too quiet.
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Old 01-18-2010, 12:20 AM   #7
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Maybe the rest of the exhaust should include a cat and resonated midpipe, neither of which is a performance restriction if done right?

This is one of those tomayto/tomahto things anyway. I personally don't care for the way chambered mufflers sound, and sound is the one and only reason for buying an axleback. Neither style should be excessively loud as the only exhaust mod. On the other hand, if I've changed my entire exhaust system in search of more power, I'd rather have a cat and a resonator with a straight-through muffler than a chambered muffler with neither of the others.

There probably isn't a "right" or "wrong" choice here. Just preferences.
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Old 01-18-2010, 12:23 AM   #8
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For the record, my autocross car is an RS with catless EL header and non-resonated Stromung catback. You;re right, it's loud. But, it's an autocross car. Up until it gets me kicked off course, I don't care. My DD L wagon had stock header and cat with a Stromung catback, up until I put a stock '05 catback on it while my wife and I were driving 1900 miles round trip over Christmas. I miss the sound of the Stromung, but I like the quiet. Also, that Stromung muffler is beginning to rust out (it's an OG mild steel version) so it's much louder than it should be. If it were still whole I'd still have it on the car, even for 10 hour stretches with my wife in the other seat.
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Old 01-18-2010, 09:36 AM   #9
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I put this in your other thread. We all know that 06/07 2.5i's can bolt on just about any turbo axleback, please don't leave us out of the crowd as most turbo axlebacks sound like crap on our cars and we need another correct option other than stromung.

Just my 2
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Old 01-18-2010, 05:35 PM   #10
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After looking at the car today, I think we might offer 2 different muffler options, with multiple core diamters for each muffler....one style muffler that would provide a nice sound for only axleback users and something that will tame the sound of cars with headers, no cats, etc........or something extremely loud if that is what you're after. As this unfolds I'll keep you posted as we see what fits, what will work, and just how many sound options I can offer to you. As for tips, I didn't select any today b/c we need to see what muffler(s) we are running first. I'll keep you posted!!
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Old 01-18-2010, 05:36 PM   #11
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I put this in your other thread. We all know that 06/07 2.5i's can bolt on just about any turbo axleback, please don't leave us out of the crowd as most turbo axlebacks sound like crap on our cars and we need another correct option other than stromung.

Just my 2
After I get this one done for the older cars, I'm going to test fit it on the newer models and make changes what will allow it to work for 06+ imprezas.
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Old 01-18-2010, 05:41 PM   #12
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After looking at the car today, I think we might offer 2 different muffler options, with multiple core diamters for each muffler....one style muffler that would provide a nice sound for only axleback users and something that will tame the sound of cars with headers, no cats, etc........or something extremely loud if that is what you're after. As this unfolds I'll keep you posted as we see what fits, what will work, and just how many sound options I can offer to you. As for tips, I didn't select any today b/c we need to see what muffler(s) we are running first. I'll keep you posted!!

i'm not really looking to attract the wrong attention so i'd go for something that has a low deep growl that isn't too loud.
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Chambered vote from me as well. I judged my stromung 2-tip to be too loud
Or just try to get two cores to fit in the same muffler casing, one S-T, the other chambered, which you do using a weld-in chamber or pipe to minimize costs
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would be nice to have some options for the 2008+ 2.5i owners
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would be nice to have some options for the 2008+ 2.5i owners
Again the 06+ crowd must not be that large or attractive for aftermarket parts manufacturers to give a damn. GC/GF/GM/GD/GG have a slot of parts on the market. Maybe GE/H/R will get some loving soon
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After I get this one done for the older cars, I'm going to test fit it on the newer models and make changes what will allow it to work for 06+ imprezas.
Nice nice, mostly the correct flange orientation is all that is needed I believe.
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Again the 06+ crowd must not be that large or attractive for aftermarket parts manufacturers to give a damn. GC/GF/GM/GD/GG have a slot of parts on the market. Maybe GE/H/R will get some loving soon
I definitely have love, (especially when friends own 08+ imprezas) but I want to test a few things on the older models first and then start producing products for the new ones. After this axleback is done, I'd like some feedback and then I can establish what is wanted for the 08+ models (sounds, tips, etc.).
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Watching this space. Shoping for an exhaust setup for my 95 impreza
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Watching this space. Shoping for an exhaust setup for my 95 impreza
As things progress I'll post pics and I'll supply more info. As of now we're working on a number of things, but I hope to have a prototype done in the next week or so.
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id like to see a WRC type muffler with a 3'' downspout tip that would be great anotherwords a curved tip instead of a straight tip
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I definitely have love, (especially when friends own 08+ imprezas) but I want to test a few things on the older models first and then start producing products for the new ones. After this axleback is done, I'd like some feedback and then I can establish what is wanted for the 08+ models (sounds, tips, etc.).
Awwww thanks B/c I need a UEL header and the sooner you or anybody else makes one the better (that has a cat integrated of course)
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id like to see a WRC type muffler with a 3'' downspout tip that would be great anotherwords a curved tip instead of a straight tip
I'll post some pics later of the current tip selection for my 3" catback exhaust, but I have a polished and non polished turndown tip already available that could definitely be available for the axlebacks. Also, there will probably be two muffler selections, but I should be able to get you what you need!
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^^ looking forward to pics and further progress!!!
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^^ looking forward to pics and further progress!!!
I'm having some computer trouble today with the camera, etc I'm going to try to get some help tomorrow and post the pics of the tips that are currently available asap. The axleback is coming along and I hope to have a prototype that I'm happy with by the end of this upcoming week. If I can get the computer/camera issue sorted out tomorrow I'll have pics up.....darn computers!
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After having a bone stock 2000 2.5RS donated to me to use for a little while, and looking under it, we figured why not do an axleback and a midpipe to equal a full 2.25" catback. I'm now going to have to get a few other cars that are older than 2000 and newer than 05 to see what will and won't fit. This might push the final prototype date back about a week, but I feel it's worth doing because I have the car available and it's a fairly simple pipe to mock up.

Here's a few pics from a customer that just installed a full turboback on his STi. This will give you an idea of what the twin tip and single tip might look like for the NA setup. There is also a pic of the catback with the muffler (or muffler delete pipe) removed with only a non-polished turndown.






Pictured here is the muffler, muffler delete pipe and number of tips that are available for my wrx/sti exhaust sytems. ANY of these tips can also be treated to a Black Onyx (like black chrome) finish. I have it on my wrx and it looks fantastic! Again, these are just some pics to give you guys an idea of what were currently working on for the NA cars. Also, just like my other systems you can interchange tips and probably muffler/muffler delete pipes to change the look or sound of the car without having to purchase an entirely new exhaust!

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