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Old 10-15-2011, 05:50 PM   #1
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Hey Nasioc:

I guess I am the first of the group guys/gals to do the first review! The package came real nice as always from TIC, packaged very well to prevent damage. The xbrace is powercoated black full on.

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If you have done a rear strut bar install before, it is similar. Removing your rear seats. Remove the 3 strut tower bolts. However the similarity ends when you have to do adjustments on the arms to line up the mounting points of the middle of the xbrace. That was a pain and took me close to 2 hours to do.

First Impressions and Drive:

The car felt very solid, smoother, and quieter! I noticed a great amount of decrease in body roll and more precise cornering. It is definitely a mod that I can say that made a night and day difference.

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Overall, I am very happy with the purchase and results of this xbrace. I just hope I never have to take it off and or reinstall it again! Thanks again TIC for making another awesome product!

SPECIAL NOTE: For WRX's there are 4 mounting points for the backseats. You HAVE TO line up the back seat before bolting down the Xbrace and the backseat at the same time. You will have to jump in and out of your trunk to do adjustments at this point. There is no other way.



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OH WOW!! I totally missed that you put this review up!

Thank you very much!
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Old 10-20-2011, 09:17 PM   #3
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Old 10-21-2011, 03:35 PM   #4
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where is the one for the





























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Old 10-22-2011, 02:16 PM   #5
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And us Forester guys/gals???


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Old 10-22-2011, 05:43 PM   #6
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I still haven't gotten mine installed yet. Thanks for the heads up on the bolt alignment time frame. I was figuring on that being a bit of a pita.
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Yeah its such a b***h to get correctly, a lot of time!
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Old 10-27-2011, 12:18 AM   #8
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I'm stuck. Can only get 3 of the 4 lower bolts lined up. Seems like I need to extend the notch on one of the holes

Any advice Strider?
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Which one specifically is it? The one I had the most trouble was the lower driver side one.
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Which one specifically is it? The one I had the most trouble was the lower driver side one.
I think that's the same one he's having trouble with.

Loosely put in the left bolt to serve as a pivot and using the jack screws try and get it to shift.

If you get frustrated a file can elongate that hole nicely.
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Yes, that's the one.
But when I adjust everything to get that bolt started, the other hole on that side doesn't line up.
I think I'll need to try the file trick. But it's off close to 3/16".

Thanks TiC.
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My suggestion is get it as close as possible try to slow start hand tightening a screw into it and keep adjust until it gets into place. Try not to strip the bolt though. Hopefully that will get it bolted all the way through. You will probably have to use brute force at some point.
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Thanks Strider.

One more question.....will the brace move when I take the lower bolts out to put the seat back in? Or will the other 2 bolts keep everything lined up, and not shift things around?

Thanks again.
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Oh yeah....that's right WRX's have this problem. Well what I did was I kept jumping in and out of the trunk to get this done. I adjusted it from the trunk and ran back to the front to make sure the backseats holes were lined up. I didn't bolt mine in until I had it all lined up with the backseat mounting points in place.
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Thanks Strider.

One more question.....will the brace move when I take the lower bolts out to put the seat back in? Or will the other 2 bolts keep everything lined up, and not shift things around?

Thanks again.
You should only need to remove one bolt to put the back seat back in place. if you have it all lined up, and the other 3 tight then you should be fine.
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You should only need to remove one bolt to put the back seat back in place. if you have it all lined up, and the other 3 tight then you should be fine.
That's not true though. The WRX backseat has 4 mounting points. Both on the end and two in the middle. Hence, you have to position the backseat in place before mounting these points.
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Yes there are two middle bolts for the pass thru bracket on the WRX.
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Yes there are two middle bolts for the pass thru bracket on the WRX.
OH!!! I always forget about the pass thru. Dumb Clint!
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Yeah the video from HSPN will throw people off due to the fact that it was an STI. So for future reference I am going to edit my 1st and original post!
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Ok, well I got it in. Sorry for the delay. The wife had the WRX to go to school today, as I needed the other car with the baby seat in it. Just got everything wrapped up.

Anyway, I decided to try to adjust the jack screw on the passenger side a little more. I needed to actually loosen it a fair amount in order to get everything lined up.

I decided that the lowest bolt should be started first, so I got it started and then loosened the passenger side of the x brace. This lowered the driver side just enough to get the rear seat support bracket bolt started. I tightened it up, and then retightened the x brace. There is an incredible amount of tension on these bolts since everything wasn't lining up correctly. It felt like the threads may have been stripping a bit when I was tightening everything. I just hope I never have to remove the x brace!!

I was able to get the lowest bolt tightened up, but opted not to even attempt to remove it and try to bolt the seat back with that bolt. I figured the STi and cars without the pass thru only have the 3 bolts anyway.

So, needless to say, this did take a bit longer than I was anticipating. I don't know if my car was just slightly out of spec as far as the bolt holes go. I know the passenger side of the x brace fit like it came from the factory. That darn driver side was making me think I should have just stuck with the Cusco v brace I already had installed.

Anyone who hasn't installed theirs yet, just make sure to have plenty of time for the install.

One other thing I hadn't seen mentioned, is the jack screws use a 19mm wrench to adjust them, and a 24mm to tighten the lock nuts, or you can just use a large crescent wrench.

Thanks again to TiC for the x brace, and to Strider for the install advice.
Looking forward to testing this thing out!
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Its awesome! Freaking awesome! You will not have a disappointing face as you take turns, and that's the bottom line cause Strider said so! Congrads and enjoy!
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mine only has one red decal not 3 total

and hasn't made one single improvement on the cars handling, but that could be because there's no motor and it's on jacks
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mine only has one red decal not 3 total

and hasn't made one single improvement on the cars handling, but that could be because there's no motor and it's on jacks
Are you high?! That thing's sitting on jack stands like a Boss now!!
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mine only has one red decal not 3 total
mine didn't even have one But I did get 3 stickers to put on it

Will be looking to install as soon as I figure out my left drivers side suspension clunking. I'm hoping it's as easy as tightening the ALK since the coilovers seem fine.

Anyway, should be installed in ~2 weeks. I look forward to driving around with it.
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Strange, the simplest part for me was lining up the central bracket holes. Getting the turnbuckles started was my time sink. Turns out the strut mounts plates were not sitting flat and so the angle of the turnbuckles and the threaded rod was too far off. I finally figured it out and snugged down the strut plates to bend the metal on metal contact that was preventing them from sitting flat. After that I could get the turnbuckles started and the rest went fairly easy.

FYI I pre-threaded my turnbuckles' spacing using the OP's images for reference. That probably helped a lot with getting the center bolts to line up so quick, Thanks!
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