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Old 07-08-2010, 12:31 AM   #126
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luckiest man in the world. Im glad to see people dont cheap out. Better safe then sorry. I am gonna get one soon.
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Old 07-08-2010, 01:47 AM   #127
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is there any evidence that Subaru has fixed this problem on the 2010+ WRX/STI?

also, it looks like 2.5i's aren't as widely affected. specifically, would a 2007 2.5i be considered relatively safe from having this pickup failure?
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Old 07-08-2010, 09:31 AM   #128
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Sorry, i wasn't very clear...i was asking if your pan (I said the pan...LOL) would fit the 08. I'm sure it will, as the differences in manifolds is very slight, but i want to be sure before i order them for the cars.
Yes, I have an 08+ version. When you place an order it should ask for 'year of manufacture'. Feel free to PM or call if you have anymore questions.

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is there any evidence that Subaru has fixed this problem on the 2010+ WRX/STI?

also, it looks like 2.5i's aren't as widely affected. specifically, would a 2007 2.5i be considered relatively safe from having this pickup failure?
Sorry to say but the part numbers are exactly the same since 2006. I've noticed (on the forums) fewer 2.5i problems too, BUT you have to keep in mind there are a LOT fewer 2.5i enthusiasts, so naturally you'll hear of a lot fewer problems. ALL EJ series motors (Impreza, Legacy, Forester, etc.) since 2006 have the same exact oil pickup part number.
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Old 07-09-2010, 12:51 AM   #129
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thanks for clearing that up! if my GF decides to keep her car when her lease is up, she will likely be purchasing one of these.

and if (big if, maybe a 10% chance) i get a newer WRX/STI, i'll get one for myself, too.
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Old 07-11-2010, 11:29 AM   #130
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OK. Sounds like a plan!
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Old 07-12-2010, 03:08 PM   #131
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I finally did my install a few weeks ago. It took me the better part of a day to do, but it's done.

I extracted the OEM pan and pick-up tube without jacking up the engine. I used a 1/4" drive set and was able to access all of the pan bolts. I used a tool between the pan and the edge of the engine mount (not between the pan and block) to remove the pan. I wish I had a gasket cutting tool because I bent the edge of the OEM pan slightly, which I bent back into place - a friend wanted the pan, but we'll see.

Putting in the KBM pan however required the jacking of the engine. I removed the battery, starter, air-intake hose from the air-box, removed the radiator upper mounts and sat the radiator on the lower bushings and I also removed the fuse-box mounting bolts and moved it into a resting position. This is so nothing was being unnecessarily stretched or compressed.

I used two blocks of wood under each engine mount to of course keep the engine in place so I could do the install work.

I used Permatex Ultra Grey silicone gasket maker, but before doing so, I dry fitted the pan to make sure I knew exactly how to rotate and fit the pan in place. I also double-checked the pick-up tube bolts to make sure they were also torqued. The pan required the torquing of the bolts only once - with the Permatex Ultra Grey, you do not have to retorque the bolts afterward (which is nice).

The OEM oil pick-up tube is fully intact without any signs of fatigue or cracking. I did however find a piece of metal sitting at the bottom of the OEM pan. It does not look like an internal engine part. What it looks like is a piece of stamped metal that was left in the pan, possibly from when the OEM pan itself was being manufactured - like a piece that would have been scrap metal from the stampings. I will take pics of it later and add them to this post.

Would I do this again? Yes, but because of the fact that there have been unacceptable failures of the pick-up tube. If however this was a "true want only project", then I may say no.

The fitment of both items, oil pick-up tube and oil-pan were excellent.

Since I only auto-x the car on occasion, I have not yet moved toward installing an oil temperature [gauge] system.
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Old 07-14-2010, 10:03 PM   #132
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i installed mine on monday night.took me about 2 hours.had to clean all the old gasket off the stock pan and the block. i didnt notice any cracks but better safe than sorry.i had a bit of trouble getting the pan back in but i resolved it by lowering my exhaust manifold.for everyone who has an order in your making a great decision. thanx killer b
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Old 07-16-2010, 04:25 PM   #133
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A trick I used was to buy some studs that matched the bolts and put it up there so it'll be easier to line up and not smear the gasket maker. Worked great and I have no leaks now.
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Old 07-25-2010, 11:16 PM   #134
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im currently doing the installing killerbee's oil pickup and im having a lot of trouble unbolting the oil pickup tube with the headers in the way and etc. any advice or tips from those who have already done this install?

nm finally got the pan out

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Old 07-27-2010, 11:52 PM   #135
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Yeah, just completed the install today, but had the exhaust manifold off.
Very nice product, KillerB!

Here is a pic of my stocker, I could totally see and feel where the crack would have formed on my stock pickup tube. Everyone with an 02-current turbocharged Subaru- Buy one of these KillerB oil pickups before it's too late!!!
Off of an 07 STi with 23k miles

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Old 07-28-2010, 06:16 AM   #136
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im currently doing the installing killerbee's oil pickup and im having a lot of trouble unbolting the oil pickup tube with the headers in the way and etc. any advice or tips from those who have already done this install?

nm finally got the pan out
For others who might read this down the line, just take off the manifold/header. Makes it much easier - finished mine last PM. Stock pick up looked fine on my 07 after 52,000 miles but now I won't worry.
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Old 07-28-2010, 03:13 PM   #137
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On the bolts for the oil pickup do not, I repeat DO NOT overtighten.

But on a good note, if you strip the passenger side bolt where the actual oil pickup tube connects a hellicoil will work. Its M6 x 1.
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Old 07-29-2010, 07:26 AM   #138
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Yea...I wish I would have done this when I first started modding my car. I had my car tuned last August, made awesome power. Went about 5 miles down the road and watched my oil pressure light flash...thock, thock, thock instantly followed. 57K and I had spun a rod bearing. Subaru wouldn't pick up the tab since my car was way beyond stock. This is the best $250 that I have ever spent on my new engine!
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Old 07-29-2010, 12:03 PM   #139
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Should i be worried about this on an outback XT I think it has the EJ25
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Old 07-29-2010, 03:14 PM   #140
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If it has an EJ 25... Yes. All EJ series motors have pickup issues and all EJ25 motors after 2006 have the same exact pickup.
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Old 07-29-2010, 09:16 PM   #141
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Yes. Any model from 2006-current that has an EJ25 motor (Impreza WRX & STi, Legacy GT, Forester XT) has the same pickup.

So do the '05 sti's and later years have a different pick-up that don't tend to break, or are they all the same?
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Old 07-29-2010, 10:17 PM   #142
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ALL EJ series motors from the early 90s on have this issue. There have been a few different styles but the all have failure problems due to a manufacturing defect...

I this pic: Left EJ20 (WRX), Center EJ25 (STi, Legacty GT, Forester, XT, Outback XT), Right ALL EJ25 motors 2006-2010 (Impreza ALL, Legacy ALL, Outback ALL, Forester ALL)



The older ones tend to just let go when they start to crack, the newer ones sometimes will give low oil pressure at idle or oil light at idle, but not always.


And of course the most durable, reliable, feature filled soulition available. Used by retialers, shops, builders, race teams, and even subaru dealerships all over the world...


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Old 08-02-2010, 04:22 PM   #143
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I finally had the dealer install mine and it was no easy job. They had to remove a header. I could not imagine doing this without a lift. But again better safe than sorry.

The question now is what are the holes on the oil pan? 1 is a drain plug the other one is?

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Old 08-02-2010, 07:35 PM   #144
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Subaru wouldn't pick up the tab since my car was way beyond stock.
why should Subaru pick up the tab? you gotta pay to play!

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I finally had the dealer install mine and it was no easy job. They had to remove a header. I could not imagine doing this without a lift.
I used a lift when I installed mine. the only issues I ran into were bolting the oil pan back on with the pick up tube installed, the pan would not clear my header. we remedied this by unbolting the pick up tube, placing it in the pan and then moving the pan into position and then bolting the tube in place. it worked out well oh and we had jacked the engine up about an inch.

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Old 08-03-2010, 12:38 AM   #145
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I finally had the dealer install mine and it was no easy job. They had to remove a header. I could not imagine doing this without a lift. But again better safe than sorry.

The question now is what are the holes on the oil pan? 1 is a drain plug the other one is?
The other one is 1/2NPT. You can adapt that to ANYTHING you might need. Most use it for a temperature sender.

Whether you use it for a sensor or put a plug into it, make sure thread sealant or teflon tape is used for a leak free seal
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Old 08-04-2010, 12:20 AM   #146
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The other one is 1/2NPT. You can adapt that to ANYTHING you might need. Most use it for a temperature sender.

Whether you use it for a sensor or put a plug into it, make sure thread sealant or teflon tape is used for a leak free seal
Got it! BTW what a nice and great product
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Old 08-04-2010, 11:07 AM   #147
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Got it! BTW what a nice and great product
Thanks!
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Old 08-04-2010, 01:47 PM   #148
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I ordered one a week ago from Killer B motorsports for my 06 sti with 45k miles. It says not in stock until 8/5/10. Can't wait to get it. I've been taking it easy now that I'm informed and paranoid, haha. So happy it hasn't failed on me yet
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Old 08-05-2010, 12:30 PM   #149
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I ordered one a week ago from Killer B motorsports for my 06 sti with 45k miles. It says not in stock until 8/5/10. Can't wait to get it. I've been taking it easy now that I'm informed and paranoid, haha. So happy it hasn't failed on me yet
Your order will be shipped today!
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Your order will be shipped today!
talk about good customer service, thanks. It's the one going out to Apopka, FL
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