My 2010 Race Car Build - From the Ground Up - Page 71

MSI · 02-21-2013, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by boost junkie

Ha yeah not the easiest job anymore, although once the dry sump goes in it'll be a pain anyway since the tank and lines will have to be drained.

Buy a 150$ vacum pump and hook it up to the system when you are ready to drain, saves a lot of time and energy. That or you remove the pulley from the dry sump, and I imagine if you turn that a few times will pull the rest out as well.

Never tried the latter way, but have used a vacum pump before without issues.

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boost junkie · 02-21-2013, 03:53 PM

Good call marky mark, I'll look into that. Lame update (no pics): The wiring harnesses and modified steering wheel with push button switches are here and they look AMAZING. The rest of the electronic components will be here next week and then everything can get mounted in the car and ready for setup and calibration.

Also my brand new Smartycam is for sale, PM me if you want it.

WRX8XB · 02-21-2013, 03:56 PM

brand new meaning the HD version? or the old 480p version?

boost junkie · 02-23-2013, 01:34 PM

Someone buy me, need the cash for other parts to get the car up and running!

biknman · 02-23-2013, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by boost junkie

Someone buy me, need the cash for other parts to get the car up and running!

Been wanting one of these for a long time to go with my MXL Pro Dash but just don't have funds sorry.

Shifter Kart · 03-13-2013, 01:39 AM

anyone here? bueller?

hey question: are the front upper strut mounts in the stock position or were they refabricated/moved?

boost junkie · 03-14-2013, 01:45 PM

Still in the stock position, they were just reinforced.

Things are moving along, the wiring harnesses are installed in the car and my new seat and harness are here. All the parts are here for the engine rebuild as well. I'm trying to decide on a clutch and leaning towards an Exedy carbon triple.

SashaSasha · 03-19-2013, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by boost junkie

hi! I am trying to make the same exhaust setup as you. My carbon driveshaft just arrived and i find a warning on it that bonds must not exceed 150 degrees Celsius. How are you planning to prevent this? To wrap all the exhaust with a exhaust wrap? Or to make a thermo screen? Or you think the temperature wont exceed 150 degrees?

Thanks in advance!

climbhigh09 · 03-19-2013, 09:29 AM

That's 302*F. You shouldn't have to worry, I wouldn't think. Your EGT by the time it approaches your drive-shaft will be less than that. Add the fact that your hottest temps occur while going fast, should be fine.

boost junkie · 03-19-2013, 10:03 PM

We're working on some airflow to cool the tranny and exhaust, and the exhaust will probably be either wrapped or ceramic coated as well.

We have encountered some setbacks with the electronics and I made the last minute decision to switch to a MoTeC M130 ECU. The cabin wiring harness is being modified to suit the new ECU and we should be good to proceed with the setup and getting the car started and moving under its own power.

RALLYT-WRX · 03-20-2013, 09:53 AM

Simply amazing!

Visceral · 03-20-2013, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by boost junkie

We have encountered some setbacks with the electronics and I made the last minute decision to switch to a MoTeC M130 ECU.

What caused you to make the switch? Who is going to do your tuning? I'm curious who has experience with MoTeC and the Subaru. I have an M800 I may put in my car.

boost junkie · 03-21-2013, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Visceral

What caused you to make the switch? Who is going to do your tuning? I'm curious who has experience with MoTeC and the Subaru. I have an M800 I may put in my car.

I'd rather not get into it but I'll just say there were some issues with the Pectel. Not to mention the SQ6, while very capable, is getting a bit long in the tooth. The M1 series ECUs are brand new technology.

Neel from Apex Speed Technology is doing the setup and tuning. He is in SoCal though so I may end up contacting Franz Diebold since he is a very well respected local MoTeC tuner with lots of subaru experience.

bettner12 · 03-21-2013, 11:36 AM

Didn't cosworth drop support on the pectal or something like that? I know of another build that dropped that ecu in favor of a motec

boost junkie · 03-21-2013, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by bettner12

Didn't cosworth drop support on the pectal or something like that? I know of another build that dropped that ecu in favor of a motec

I don't really know the full story but at this point, I am not really confident in the stability of cosworth electronics in the US. Some things happened that really turned me off to using their product. It is causing a bit of a setback since the main wiring harness was already built for the SQ6 but it's better to do this right the first time. So the harness is headed back to apex to be modified for the M130.

waynoSTI · 03-24-2013, 08:13 PM

Any pics of the carbon undertray?

boost junkie · 03-24-2013, 09:06 PM

Probably should see some new pics soon. I know IAG is in the process of doing a bunch of construction on the shop and moving things around so I doubt posting pics is a priority at the moment. The undertray looks amazing though, very cool stuff.

KNS Brakes · 03-24-2013, 09:46 PM

Good to hang out Dan

You should have stayed for the rain race...Grace is ridiculous.

I think I see one of those vintage cars in my future.....

boost junkie · 03-24-2013, 10:23 PM

Good to see you too Ken. I thought about staying but the sleet/snow wasn't too appealing and drivegear offered me a credit for next month at summit so I took that instead of risking the car in those conditions. Plus I still have summer tires on my car and even leaving at 10am, the first 2 hours of my drive home were white knuckle to say the least. I think I saw at least one accident or car in a ditch every mile.

Not surprised in the least that Robert won again

He's hard enough to beat in the dry but he really seems to dominate in the wet.

berdugo · 03-25-2013, 12:20 AM

Your build is awesome, and when this is finished it will be very fast on corners. Any plans of putting a dry sump oil system?

boost junkie · 03-25-2013, 10:00 AM

Yes IAG is working on a dry sump system for the car. Most of the components are off the shelf, they just have to design a pan and figure out how to mount the pump.

berdugo · 03-25-2013, 10:12 AM

Sounds great, I hope you can post some pics of the setup.

bettner12 · 03-25-2013, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by boost junkie

Yes IAG is working on a dry sump system for the car. Most of the components are off the shelf, they just have to design a pan and figure out how to mount the pump.

Why not the ARE 3 stage dry sump? Or is IAG going to be bringing a new product to the table after prototyping on your car?

Having the motor re-configured for dry sump also?

boost junkie · 03-25-2013, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bettner12

Why not the ARE 3 stage dry sump? Or is IAG going to be bringing a new product to the table after prototyping on your car?

Having the motor re-configured for dry sump also?

I do believe IAG will have the kit available for sale once it's tested and proven but not 100% sure. They do want to design their own kit though rather than use ARE. Not sure what you mean by reconfigured.

bettner12 · 03-25-2013, 10:50 AM

That's good to hear that we will have more options!

Reconfigured as in using seals designed for high crankcase vacuum pressures. Most oem engine seals are designed to hold fluids in, not keep air out. Sometimes one of the tricks engine builder will do when building a motor for a dry sump system is to install the oem seals backwards. I'm not sure if you have find seals like Peterson fluid systems makes for dry sumped motors for the sizes the ej257 would need.

Do you know how many stages they are planning to use? I would recommend the goodridge 910 Kevlar hose with the convoluted Teflon liner, friend lost a sb1 race motor due to his dry sump pulling enough vacuum to suck shut one of the lines from the oil tank.

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02-21-2013, 03:53 PM	#1752
boost junkie Top Scoob 009 Member#: 68273 Join Date: Aug 2004 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Silver Spring, MD Vehicle: 2012 WRX GD Race Car in progress	Good call marky mark, I'll look into that. Lame update (no pics): The wiring harnesses and modified steering wheel with push button switches are here and they look AMAZING. The rest of the electronic components will be here next week and then everything can get mounted in the car and ready for setup and calibration. Also my brand new Smartycam is for sale, PM me if you want it.

02-21-2013, 03:56 PM	#1753
WRX8XB NASIOC Supporter Member#: 45323 Join Date: Oct 2003 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Orlando Vehicle: MY05 Impreza WRX STi Pastelito Racing & SFSOC	brand new meaning the HD version? or the old 480p version?

02-23-2013, 01:34 PM	#1754
boost junkie Top Scoob 009 Member#: 68273 Join Date: Aug 2004 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Silver Spring, MD Vehicle: 2012 WRX GD Race Car in progress	Someone buy me, need the cash for other parts to get the car up and running!

03-13-2013, 01:39 AM	#1756
Shifter Kart Scooby Newbie Member#: 219740 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Kingston, Jamaica Vehicle: 2000 Sti Type R	anyone here? bueller? hey question: are the front upper strut mounts in the stock position or were they refabricated/moved?

03-14-2013, 01:45 PM	#1757
boost junkie Top Scoob 009 Member#: 68273 Join Date: Aug 2004 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Silver Spring, MD Vehicle: 2012 WRX GD Race Car in progress	Still in the stock position, they were just reinforced. Things are moving along, the wiring harnesses are installed in the car and my new seat and harness are here. All the parts are here for the engine rebuild as well. I'm trying to decide on a clutch and leaning towards an Exedy carbon triple.

03-19-2013, 09:29 AM	#1759
climbhigh09 Scooby Specialist Member#: 254163 Join Date: Aug 2010 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: MD Vehicle: 2011 WRX 20GXTR Black	That's 302*F. You shouldn't have to worry, I wouldn't think. Your EGT by the time it approaches your drive-shaft will be less than that. Add the fact that your hottest temps occur while going fast, should be fine.

03-19-2013, 10:03 PM	#1760
boost junkie Top Scoob 009 Member#: 68273 Join Date: Aug 2004 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Silver Spring, MD Vehicle: 2012 WRX GD Race Car in progress	We're working on some airflow to cool the tranny and exhaust, and the exhaust will probably be either wrapped or ceramic coated as well. We have encountered some setbacks with the electronics and I made the last minute decision to switch to a MoTeC M130 ECU. The cabin wiring harness is being modified to suit the new ECU and we should be good to proceed with the setup and getting the car started and moving under its own power.

03-20-2013, 09:53 AM	#1761
RALLYT-WRX Scooby Specialist Member#: 9369 Join Date: Aug 2001 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Cadillac Rothschild Vehicle: :) 02WRX 08SpecB 11FozzieX 88Fiero GT	Simply amazing!

03-21-2013, 11:36 AM	#1764
bettner12 Scooby Newbie Member#: 56179 Join Date: Feb 2004 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Beaver Falls, PA Vehicle: 2005 Legacy GT BSM	Didn't cosworth drop support on the pectal or something like that? I know of another build that dropped that ecu in favor of a motec

03-24-2013, 08:13 PM	#1766
waynoSTI Scooby Specialist Member#: 162151 Join Date: Oct 2007 Chapter/Region: E. Canada Location: IAG PERFORMACE! Vehicle: 2.6L BLUE THUNDER LOW&WIDE&SHAVED	Any pics of the carbon undertray?

03-24-2013, 09:06 PM	#1767
boost junkie Top Scoob 009 Member#: 68273 Join Date: Aug 2004 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Silver Spring, MD Vehicle: 2012 WRX GD Race Car in progress	Probably should see some new pics soon. I know IAG is in the process of doing a bunch of construction on the shop and moving things around so I doubt posting pics is a priority at the moment. The undertray looks amazing though, very cool stuff.

03-24-2013, 09:46 PM	#1768
KNS Brakes NASIOC Vendor Member#: 125739 Join Date: Sep 2006 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Raleigh, NC Vehicle: Who needs brakes? Call: 919-420-0021	Good to hang out Dan You should have stayed for the rain race...Grace is ridiculous. I think I see one of those vintage cars in my future.....

03-24-2013, 10:23 PM	#1769
boost junkie Top Scoob 009 Member#: 68273 Join Date: Aug 2004 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Silver Spring, MD Vehicle: 2012 WRX GD Race Car in progress	Good to see you too Ken. I thought about staying but the sleet/snow wasn't too appealing and drivegear offered me a credit for next month at summit so I took that instead of risking the car in those conditions. Plus I still have summer tires on my car and even leaving at 10am, the first 2 hours of my drive home were white knuckle to say the least. I think I saw at least one accident or car in a ditch every mile. Not surprised in the least that Robert won again He's hard enough to beat in the dry but he really seems to dominate in the wet.

03-25-2013, 12:20 AM	#1770
berdugo Scooby Specialist Member#: 163108 Join Date: Oct 2007 Chapter/Region: International Location: Philippines Vehicle: 07 EuroDM STi 2.5L Silver	Your build is awesome, and when this is finished it will be very fast on corners. Any plans of putting a dry sump oil system?

03-25-2013, 10:00 AM	#1771
boost junkie Top Scoob 009 Member#: 68273 Join Date: Aug 2004 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Silver Spring, MD Vehicle: 2012 WRX GD Race Car in progress	Yes IAG is working on a dry sump system for the car. Most of the components are off the shelf, they just have to design a pan and figure out how to mount the pump.

03-25-2013, 10:12 AM	#1772
berdugo Scooby Specialist Member#: 163108 Join Date: Oct 2007 Chapter/Region: International Location: Philippines Vehicle: 07 EuroDM STi 2.5L Silver	Sounds great, I hope you can post some pics of the setup.

03-25-2013, 10:50 AM	#1775
bettner12 Scooby Newbie Member#: 56179 Join Date: Feb 2004 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Beaver Falls, PA Vehicle: 2005 Legacy GT BSM	That's good to hear that we will have more options! Reconfigured as in using seals designed for high crankcase vacuum pressures. Most oem engine seals are designed to hold fluids in, not keep air out. Sometimes one of the tricks engine builder will do when building a motor for a dry sump system is to install the oem seals backwards. I'm not sure if you have find seals like Peterson fluid systems makes for dry sumped motors for the sizes the ej257 would need. Do you know how many stages they are planning to use? I would recommend the goodridge 910 Kevlar hose with the convoluted Teflon liner, friend lost a sb1 race motor due to his dry sump pulling enough vacuum to suck shut one of the lines from the oil tank.