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Old 12-24-2012, 12:12 PM   #51
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06 WRX, 52,xxx miles. I have P2433, P2431, & P2444 all showing right now. I haven't taken it to the dealer after reading that they want $1300-$1600 to fix. Also seen that it will prolly fail again even if they do 'goodwill' warrenty fix on it. I've found blocking plates for about $40 and if I can get someone to delete the codes I'm hoping this eliminate my problem. Any thoughts or advice would be cool, this thread is old so PM me with any responses.
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Old 12-24-2012, 12:17 PM   #52
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I got both valves on ebay for like 275. did the job myself. You can do it without taking the intake manifold off if you have a lot of extenders and what not. theres a decent vid on youtube of a guy doing it.

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Old 01-19-2013, 12:41 AM   #53
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2007 WRX, 160xxx km, no parts mods just a tune. I've been dealing with this for a while, although I've been somewhat lazy about it because it happened right before the winter hit and my garage isn't heated... I had the codes come up for the secondary air system (don't recall which ones) so instead of going to the dealer about it I had a tune done by a local guy with a great rep. Bumped me up to 200whp, and deleted all related codes while he was tuning. I have not yet removed the system but i have disconnected the wiring harness to the pump. Awesome, until my cruise light came on without a CEL.

Cruise light now flashes almost daily, feels like my car is a little limpy, and will not throw a code for diagnosis at all. Cruise light flashing goes away if the engine is shut off for a few seconds and then restarted. I'm at a loss here so if you have any thoughts, I'm all ears. Thanks.
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Old 07-17-2013, 03:16 AM   #54
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I have a 2007 WRX which I bought used with 30k (now ~34k) that began throwing the CEL with code P2444 3 weeks ago. Even thought it was not covered under the extended warranty I bought, I dutifully took it into the local dealership for evaluation. Similar to others' stories, they wanted over $1600 to replace the air pump and both valves. The service advisor claimed there was no way to more specifically diagnose the fault, and all 3 components needed to be replaced.
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you can check the pump by putting your finger into the exit pipe after removing the tube ( even without taking it out, but make sure the ignition is OFF and the carkey is out of the lock...just for security), and see if the scoops inside move around freely...if they don't, the blower is jammed.
You can also hook the blower up to a car battery after taking it out... if it runs, it's supposed to be ok.... it' s best compared to an almost unnessecary, but pretty expensive 12v hairdryer .
So that's one check you can do yourself.
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Old 07-17-2013, 03:22 AM   #55
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I have a 2007 WRX which I bought used with 30k (now ~34k) that began throwing the CEL with code P2444 3 weeks ago. Even thought it was not covered under the extended warranty I bought, I dutifully took it into the local dealership for evaluation. Similar to others' stories, they wanted over $1600 to replace the air pump and both valves. The service advisor claimed there was no way to more specifically diagnose the fault, and all 3 components needed to be replaced.
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pfhhh
I hope you laughed out loud in his face.. which , I suppose, you didn't...
you can check the pump by putting your finger into the exit pipe after removing the tube ( even without taking it out, but make sure the ignition is OFF and the carkey is out of the lock...just for your own security), and see if the scoops inside move freely...if they don't, the blower is jammed.
You can also hook the blower up to a car battery after taking it out... if it runs, it's supposed to be ok.... it' s best compared to an( almost unnessecary, but in this case pretty expensive 12v ) hairdryer like you use when to heat up your bbq
So that's one check you can do yourself.

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Old 07-22-2013, 12:25 AM   #56
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Hi Everyone. I've run into a strange problem on my '06 9-2X Aero with the P2444 Code and I'm wondering if anyone else has had to deal with the same issue on any of the Subaru vehicles. I traced the problem to a power loss from the ECM at the air pump relay. This causes the air pump not to turn on and registers the P2444 Code. But there is a strange twist to this: the power is lost only after the relay is plugged in.

Here is how I got to the diagnosis .. After both secondary valves seemed to check out ok, I traced the problem to the air pump not running. I pulled the connector off and found no power to the pump. I then checked the relay and fuse and found that both were ok. That leaves just the power from the battery and the relay signal power. I pulled the relay off and checked both power sources on the relay connector (Pins 4 & 3); both checkout at ~12V. I then checked all the contact locations, and again, everything checkout. I'm a bit perplexed at this point: how can this be, relay is good, power in is good, but nothing comes out of the relay when I plug it in. Turns out that when I plug the relay in, the power supply to the relay is lost on Pin 6 (this is the power signal from the ECM that tells the relay to turn on the pump). So, I'm again perplexed. Why is the power lost when the relay hits the contacts??? As I said, the relay tested fine on the bench - I connect it directly to the battery and the switch flips. I'm thinking that there is either a problem with the ECM or the wiring from the ECM to the relay.

Has anyone run into this problem? Would really appreciate your thoughts!
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Old 07-22-2013, 01:52 PM   #57
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Again, if you contact SOA, arrange a diagnosis so they have documentation, they will likely grant you the good faith deal and pay for 40-75% of it depending on your situation and mileage. They paid 50% of mine. Pumps, relays, the whole bit. Casually mention that through online forums, you heard of a possible good faith repair. thats what I did. It cost some cash, but in the headaches and time and trouble of trying to get around it or remedy it myself, I still came out on top. My cars been solid ever since and it took until 145k to break in the first place. Now im at 170k and going for my first clutch finally.
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Old 07-22-2013, 01:54 PM   #58
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2007 WRX, 160xxx km, no parts mods just a tune. I've been dealing with this for a while, although I've been somewhat lazy about it because it happened right before the winter hit and my garage isn't heated... I had the codes come up for the secondary air system (don't recall which ones) so instead of going to the dealer about it I had a tune done by a local guy with a great rep. Bumped me up to 200whp, and deleted all related codes while he was tuning. I have not yet removed the system but i have disconnected the wiring harness to the pump. Awesome, until my cruise light came on without a CEL.

Cruise light now flashes almost daily, feels like my car is a little limpy, and will not throw a code for diagnosis at all. Cruise light flashing goes away if the engine is shut off for a few seconds and then restarted. I'm at a loss here so if you have any thoughts, I'm all ears. Thanks.
The flashing cruise control light is a sympathetic error light. Meaning that because there is a CEL going, it will disallow things like the cruise control. Nothing wrong with your CC, thats how its supposed to work. When the problem is fixed, the CC will resume function and stop blinking.
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Old 07-27-2013, 08:19 PM   #59
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I also had the CELs for the secondary air pump. I bought the pump and the the 2 other parts for a complete "overhaul". When I took the system apart the valves for the other 2 parts were stuck in the open position due to dirt and grease. Replace just those and the car worked liked a charm. Didn't need the pump and the dealer won't take it back. Still sitting in the box.
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Old 07-27-2013, 08:36 PM   #60
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May as well put that sucker on then, likely only a matter of time before it takes a crap too. From what I understand they all go, one as a resut of the other
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Old 07-27-2013, 09:00 PM   #61
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Sold the car I have a 2013 now
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Old 11-18-2013, 05:32 PM   #62
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I also have a 2006 WRX Wagon which started throwing a few of these codes. I brought it to the dealer and he told me it would be $1800.00 to fix. After finding this thread and buying a block off kit and Cobb tuner I was able to remove both pumps and reprogram the ecu. I started by deleting the codes one by one but found a new one would pop up in a few days. Someone posted all the codes that needed deleting and I did that 2 months ago and has been fine ever since. I also went thru NJ inspection with no problems.. Here are the codes I deleted . 06/07 WRX:
P0410 P0411 P0413 P0414 P0416 P0417 P0418 P2431 P2432 P2433 P2440 P2441 P2442 P2443
P2444
Props to the person who posted them..
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Old 05-29-2014, 03:37 PM   #63
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I've searched and didn't come up with anything. I want to delete these codes, I have a Cobb Tuner. How do I delete them? I can reset the ECU and the CEL comes right back. I need my cruise control!
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Old 05-29-2014, 07:50 PM   #64
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Aint gonna happen until you fix the problem.
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Old 05-29-2014, 08:16 PM   #65
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I've searched and didn't come up with anything. I want to delete these codes, I have a Cobb Tuner. How do I delete them? I can reset the ECU and the CEL comes right back. I need my cruise control!
You need to download Accesstuner RACE from Cobb. Google it. Then you will take whatever map you have (OTS only, most tuners lock theirs) and go through and delete the codes.
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Old 07-16-2014, 02:34 PM   #66
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My 2006 WRX posted P2444 and P1410. Called up Subaru dealership for repair quote. Was told my model year doesn't have a secondary air pump or associated valves, that my usual mechanic wasn't using a "Subaru" reader so had just pulled the generic codes, and that it's probably something else with the EGR. Was told Subaru only started putting in secondary air pumps into the '08 STI.

This thread seems to tell me differently. Can anyone reconcile this? Or is this dealership totally bogus?
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Old 07-16-2014, 02:41 PM   #67
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Secondary air injection began on WRX and STI in 2006.
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