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Old 05-25-2002, 12:57 AM   #1
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Default Took the JDM swap to the 1/4 mile track...kicked some V8 arse!

First off, major props go to Rallispec, as they did a superb job on my EJ20 engine and driveline swap. 6k miles on it in 8 weeks, and running great! As you may recall, I had it dyno'd at Pruven Performance last week, 235.7 hp, 226.6 ft-lbs.

At the track I tried to be relatively easy on the car (launching and shifting). Ran it a couple times Thurs night, with cold weather, and again on friday in hot weather...figured you guys would enjoy the results. Very nice traps. I suspect the car is good for a 12 sec pass if I was willing to abuse it, but its my daily driver

Track was Atco Raceway, http://www.atcorace.com/

Thursday night, both runs at 15 psi:

I scorched a Mustang:
R/T: .282 (oops!)
60': 2.215
330: 6.008
1/8: 9.015@82.47
990: 11.569
1/4: 13.843@103.16

followed that up with an LT1 spanking:
R/T: .630
60': 2.080
330: 5.786
1/8: 8.770@82.85
990: 11.320
1/4: 13.581@103.50

Friday night I ran 17.5 psi, and ate a Cobra Mustang.
R/T: .474
60': 1.854
330: 5.518
1/8: 8.533@81.83
990: 11.112
1/4: 13.400@102.49

Today I stiffened up my KYB's to the stiffest setting, to, but I'm guesing the hot weather is what slowed my trap.

Mods (car was originally a '94 L AWD):
'94 jspec WRX wagon engine and driveline
3" Rallispec Stainless turbo back (MagnaFlow muffler)
ported TD05-16G turbo
Apex'i Power FC ecu
Apex'i AVC-R
Supra TT fuel pump
Cobb Lightened Flywheel
ACT clutch

For a complete list of mods: http://www.subarureview.com/bio.php?name=annointed

I heard that peeps in the stands were arguing whether my car was stock or not! The beauty of a sleeper!

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Old 05-25-2002, 01:05 AM   #2
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way to go man , these are good times . What do you think your turbo can accomplish , HP-wise ? that car can easily then be a 12 sec. car . congrats
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Old 05-25-2002, 01:15 AM   #3
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way to go man , these are good times . What do you think your turbo can accomplish , HP-wise ? that car can easily then be a 12 sec. car . congrats
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I'm sure a better driver could have been in the 12's, I'm just terrified of breaking my daily driver!

According to several DSM turbo shops I've spoken with, the TD05-16G (small 16G) is efficient up to 18 psi. There are people in the UK running up to 26 psi on it, though.

I've read that the Big 16G compressor wheel is the way to go if you're running over 18 psi. I've figured that if I go the forged pistons route, I'll run 20 psi and upgrade to a big 16G wheel. Combined with the MRT TMIC and spray kit, which it looks like I'm getting, I estimate this will take me from 235 whp (16 psi) to 280 whp.

My other route is a 2.2 or 2.4 stroker, FMIC, dogbox, etc...major $$$, and hard to justify doing, as I'm just a poor seminary student...having this car gets me mad props with my Sunday School kids, though God uses my car to reach a group of people that usually aren't as interested in hearing the Message! Anyway, if I just do the pistons, injectors, turbo, I'll only spend another $1900, and move up from a 310 hp car to a 360 hp beast, as long as my gearbox can hold up!

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Old 05-25-2002, 01:25 AM   #4
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as far as the pistons and injectors go , that's all up to you and your money , however I'd do a FMIC either route you take . I've used both TM and FM on my car which has a pretty laggy turbo , and have to admit that I didn't see anymore turbo lag when I switched to FMIC , it really felt that way. Also I live in texas and heat soak is a reall problem but then according to my haltech , the IC sprayer for the TMIC really did work , it lowered the temp by upto 30 deg. sometimes . However I still think that a FM is better if you're shooting for high hp's.
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Old 05-25-2002, 01:35 AM   #5
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as far as the pistons and injectors go , that's all up to you and your money , however I'd do a FMIC either route you take . I've used both TM and FM on my car which has a pretty laggy turbo , and have to admit that I didn't see anymore turbo lag when I switched to FMIC , it really felt that way. Also I live in texas and heat soak is a reall problem but then according to my haltech , the IC sprayer for the TMIC really did work , it lowered the temp by upto 30 deg. sometimes . However I still think that a FM is better if you're shooting for high hp's.
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Well, for half the price of the FMIC, I have an MRT TMIC, alloy connector pipe, and water spray kit hopefully on the way over from Australia this week. This will support my less expensive 360 hp aspirations fine. If I do a stroker, I'll be forced to upgrade to a FMIC, or set up a custom CO2 TMIC spray to snap freeze the TMIC!

I just really like the notion of a TMIC. It's stealth, and it's out of the way, so a fender bender won't do it in. The lone disadvantage is probably heatsoak, which is mainly a streetlight/drag strip issue, and since I'm looking for practicality in a daily drivable beast, the TMIC is probably the way for me to go.
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Old 05-25-2002, 01:49 AM   #6
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oh yeah those MRT TMIC are big and nice , they'll defenitely be good. BTW how do you like the power FC , did you get a map with it for the engine or did you have to create a brand new one from scratch ? Since this is your first time running your setup , its only going to get faster from here even if you still baby the car , a little bit tuning here and tweeking there will have some difference.
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Old 05-25-2002, 01:58 AM   #7
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Yeah, it came with a base map, tuned for 100 RON. We pulled the timing under load in the mid RPM range, and it's now very happy with 94 octane, according to the knock readout. 93 octane gives me more engine noise, and even an occasional spike, so I stick with 94.

The first night we took it out, it had several audible detonation events, so I carefully drove out that tank of gas, and filled it w/94, and pulled the timing under load. Dyno tuning showed a nice Air/Fuel curve, as well, so it's pretty good to go now.

Unfortunately, the Power FC doesn't have datalogging capabilities, or else I could really maximize its potential. But the laptop software is only in Japanese, so I have to use the handheld controller, which is great for programming, but nearly useless for datalogging
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Old 05-25-2002, 05:59 AM   #8
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What year and model is this from? I hope my STi V1 will get here soon so I can start playing. The problem with the early motors though is the hydraulic lifter heads which don't make any power over 300 or so.
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Old 05-25-2002, 07:17 AM   #9
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Hey if you need somebody to beat on your car for you I've had plenty of practice on my GTI-R. Never hurts to offer. Good job on the times. Any plans for some dog gears in that thing?
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Old 05-25-2002, 10:14 AM   #10
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My other route is a 2.2 or 2.4 stroker, FMIC, dogbox, etc...major $$$, and hard to justify doing,

If I just do the pistons, injectors, turbo, I'll only spend another $1900, and move up from a 310 hp car to a 360 hp beast, as long as my gearbox can hold up!
If I do a dogbox, I will definitely stroke the engine out and redo the internals so I can run 25+ psi...thus I'll need an FMIC, different turbo, etc. Maybe after I put 80k miles on this car, I can justify tearing it down and doing a rebuild like this.
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Old 05-25-2002, 10:18 AM   #11
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So did you buy a whole front clip or just an engine to do this conversion?


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Old 05-25-2002, 10:33 AM   #12
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So did you buy a whole front clip or just an engine to do this conversion?


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I bought a '94 WRX Wagon front clip (I definitely recommend a front clip over just an engine...you're more likely to get everything you need, and also it protects the engine and driveline when its shipped to you). Its worth the extra expense to get a front clip.

In fact, here's the thread that I got the front clip from, back in August '01: http://www.i-club.com/forums/showthr...highlight=clip

Milo, ie, apexwrx, is a great guy, although what I got was not a "240 hp '95 WRX," as I was told, but actually a 220 hp '94 WRX wagon, so he was mistaken...but it worked out ok Just goes to show the importance of doing your homework.
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Old 05-26-2002, 12:39 AM   #13
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Mark you got any 0-60 times on this beast? I am looking for a 4.5 second or so my self what are you running?
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Still you did get a motor with the BIG turbo. Sadly you also have those "we can't make no power" heads. The later DOHC heads with solid lifters would be my next step.
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Old 05-26-2002, 05:16 AM   #15
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Default Sweet times Mark...

I particularly like your last 60' time!

All and all... I think your getting your money's worth!

Let me know when you are going to the track again.

I have to show you your runs I taped.
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Old 05-26-2002, 01:43 PM   #16
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Still you did get a motor with the BIG turbo.
Unfortunately, I did NOT get the big turbo. The '94 wagon has a tiny TD04 on it. That's prolly why it's a wimpy 220 hp. The '95 sedan makes 260 hp (I don't know where Milo got the 240 quote from). I had to purchase a '95 TD05-16G from Possum Bourne. So I spent an extra $450 on the turbo, shipping, and porting

But, the bright side is that my engine was not stressed by a big TD05 for it's life in Japan, which is probably a good thing. It's all in how you look at things.

And what's this about my DOHC headers? I want to know more...how much do you think a different manifold will help the power I'm making?

Hondaslayer, I'm right in the 4.4, 4.5 sec 0-60 territory. Unbeatable at streetlights, and the 16G turbo flows a huge volume of air (505 cfm), so it's got a nice top end too (witness my top end pullabove on the LT1 I beat. He was ahead of me by a half car at one point, and in the last 330, I reeled him in and passed him. This car has amazing power off the line, and maybe even more so up top. Makes passing people a breeze, that's for sure.

Rich, I definitely look forward to checking out the videos, even the one where you taped the side of the track as I ripped on a Mustang!
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Old 05-26-2002, 01:57 PM   #17
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And what's this about my DOHC headers? I want to know more...how much do you think a different manifold will help the power I'm making?
I believe he said heads, not headers...
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I believe he said heads, not headers...
Ah, right you are...he said heads, not headers. Still, break me down on what to expect from upgrading my heads? Seems like a logical thing to do when I put forged pistons in the car (so I can run 20 psi)
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You could always get a STI RA models intake manifold off of good old Yahoo Japan for about $150 and the heads for another $300. There is also a guy parting out a STI Type-R model (same body as the 99RS). Another shop is selling a STI V5 motor for $1K as well.
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You could always get a STI RA models intake manifold off of good old Yahoo Japan for about $150 and the heads for another $300. There is also a guy parting out a STI Type-R model (same body as the 99RS). Another shop is selling a STI V5 motor for $1K as well.
Man, I'd love to check this out, but I don't know Japanese! Can you hook me up? Shoot me an email, if you get a chance.

Thanks,

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If I can hard launch your WRX once or twice at the races when I get back to the US then sure. 6K RPM dump the clutch and stab the gas then flog its ass the rest of the 1/4mi!
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Oh yah use altavista.com to search yahoo.co.jp (don't include the www) then it will give you the links to it but it will also give you a option link to translate. After that you can follow it to Auctions and then search for either GC8 or WRX which ever works for you but WRX has more results. Then get the ID# of the parts and PM me. Make sure you have cash inhand though cause you'll be the one sending the bank transfer directly to the person selling it. I'll just receive it and reship it to the US since they don't.
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Old 05-26-2002, 09:42 PM   #23
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Annoited,
Sweet results. I saw your car at Rallispec during the big meet. Very nice. Just a few tips for the dragstrip:
1. Your R/T doesn't matter unless your bracket racing. The clock doesn't start until you break the beam with your tires. So, you could sit there for a full minute and get ready if you want. I wasn't sure if you were aware of that. No one will laught once you pull a low 13 sec run.

2. Your MPH is a very good indicator of how fast your car really is. I don't think your run in the 12's to be honest (your MPH would be over 110 I think, based on the impreza gearing), but I have been incorrect before, and would love it if you proved me wrong.

3. The 1.8 sec. 60' time is really good. Thats what I see most US WRX cars pull that are run by very good drivers. With the AWD cars, it's all in the launch. If you still want to get more out of the car, I would try to launch it a bit harder, but I certainly understand the "everyday" car situation.

I wish you guys could come up to New England Dragway one night. We always have nice cool temps.

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Old 05-27-2002, 08:40 AM   #24
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Subaru defintly did NOT have hydraulic lifters correct in this era. They deflate at high rpms and/or high HP levels. Thus right when you want the MOST cam lift and duration you get the least. So not only can you run more agressive cams on the solid lifter heads, but they also make the most of cams already there.

Also the STi Version 1 was 250 PS or about 240HP. This was 94. The LEgacy RS-R and RS-RA also were rated around that from what I recall.
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Old 05-27-2002, 02:29 PM   #25
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first, that is a great run Annointed.

second, paultg......he probably can break into the high 12's with a little more boost and tuning + a harder launch. his trap speed was almost 104 mph. the wrx guys that are running high twelves are at about 107 mph, IIRC.

anyway, good run and a beautiful car.

ps, how much have you spent all together including buying the car? **

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