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Old 03-09-2010, 12:26 PM   #101
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When exactly would you guys be using anti lag?
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Old 03-09-2010, 04:46 PM   #102
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It will be awesome for coming out of corners with a larger turbo. Turbo should always be above boost threshold and ready to go.

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Old 03-10-2010, 01:02 AM   #103
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It will be awesome for coming out of corners with a larger turbo. Turbo should always be above boost threshold and ready to go.

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Since this is a full blown race car now I know this is less of an issue, but isn't that going to severely decrease the life of the turbo?
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Old 03-10-2010, 01:13 AM   #104
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Since this is a full blown race car now I know this is less of an issue, but isn't that going to severely decrease the life of the turbo?
I was wondering the same thing.
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Old 03-10-2010, 07:53 AM   #105
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that's why you usually don't see anti-lag on the track...significant increase in wear, and the lag is something you can work with by rolling on the gas sooner in the turn. If you can use full boost in the middle of the turn on a high hp car, it usually means you entered the turn too slowly. I certainly do love hearing it on rally cars, though.
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Old 03-10-2010, 08:06 AM   #106
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Have you thought about flocking the dash since its out of the car? It cuts down on glare on the windshield big time and it only takes the afternoon if you get the DIY kit.
More info please
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Old 03-10-2010, 10:00 AM   #107
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that's why you usually don't see anti-lag on the track...significant increase in wear, and the lag is something you can work with by rolling on the gas sooner in the turn. If you can use full boost in the middle of the turn on a high hp car, it usually means you entered the turn too slowly. I certainly do love hearing it on rally cars, though.
With the rate we replace items on the car anyway it wouldn't matter. Turbos are replaced yearly anyway along with engine. It's just part of the maintenance plan which when adhered to keeps the car reliable.

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Old 03-10-2010, 11:05 AM   #108
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I assumed you planned on having a shorter maintenance schedule anyway, and that's why you decided to do it. I hope you guys come out to the east coast this year, so I can watch this thing run in person.
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Old 03-10-2010, 09:37 PM   #109
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We are only running east coast Redline events this year.
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Old 03-11-2010, 03:21 PM   #110
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We are only running east coast Redline events this year.
excellent. I saw you guys at E-town last year. I might make it out to one of the April days at NJMP, but I'll be at Pocono on 4/11, so I'm not sure yet.

How many east coast events do they actually have? Is it just the one at NJMP and the one at Autobahn in IL?
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Old 03-11-2010, 07:16 PM   #111
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i went to E- town too!! some of the faster guys said the course wasnt all that great, something about the asphalt was breaking up!! but tic's car definitely boogied there.. so its definitely gonna rotate the earth now!!
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Old 03-16-2010, 10:20 AM   #112
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Some more pics as the engine goes together this week.

Didn't like the hone on the cylinders of the new block we got so we rehoned it. This is the same procedure we used on our last engine that lasted two years. Hopefully we are as lucky with this one.

Stock: almost looks polished. Not good.



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Also got the pistons back from Swaintech, but forgot to take pics. We had the tops and skirts coated. Sized them last night to the bores and we have just around 4 thou on all four. Our last motor ran at 5 thou which was just a bit loose. Gapping the rings will be tonight.

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Old 03-16-2010, 10:31 AM   #113
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That bottom pic is awesome.
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Old 03-17-2010, 04:18 PM   #114
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Not knocking you at all - just curious

The stock piston to cylinder clearances say .0004-.0012 with a limit of .0020 -

You guys have .0040?

Does it burn oil? Must be a forged piston thing?
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Forged pistons do grow, especially in endurance situations...If they are doing an endurance motor, I'd suggest a hone with a bit less angle and finishing it with a plateau brush
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4 tenths of a thou to 2 thou is a huge difference .... (in tolerance gibbersh).
Perhaps mixing up metric and inch values you guys? SUBARU lists in mm, not in inch.
Perhaps not as well, I am a chassis guy, not an engine nerd!

factor of 25.4 is the difference (1 inch - 25.4mm)

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.004" is large. I run that on a big power 4" bore subie setups. Then again they don't run events where they are being flogged for 25 hours at a time

not sure why they put their PW clearance so large.
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I believe .004 is a little tighter than what we ran on the last motor, and we were REALLY happy with how that one did.
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I believe .004 is a little tighter than what we ran on the last motor, and we were REALLY happy with how that one did.
Well whatever works - I was more interested in the thought process behind it because I just rebuilt my track motor which was .002 out of round and i was worried it would burn oil like a pig...
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We ran .005 PWC on the last motor that went 2 years and 20000 HARD miles. It burnt almost no oil. We used .018 on top ring and .022 on the second. This time we are doing .22 on the top and .25 on the second. The recommendations from CP on both PWC and REG are MUCH greater than that. For what we do with the car, this works and has been tested for time attack, street driving and endurance racing. The factory specs would cause engine failure in short order!

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Less talking and more pictures!

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Sort of a turbo pic. Should not let Clint be in charge of taking pics.

Blouch, who is a new sponsor, sent out the turbo to us the other day. It's a 3582 with their custom billet comp wheel. .82 hotside which will hopefully spool decently.

Engine is going together this weekend and car should be running by Monday.

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Sort of a turbo pic. Should not let Clint be in charge of taking pics.

Blouch, who is a new sponsor, sent out the turbo to us the other day. It's a 3582 with their custom billet comp wheel. .82 hotside which will hopefully spool decently.

Engine is going together this weekend and car should be running by Monday.




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Really liking the build journal guys! Maybe a little video when the car is running? Hoping to see you guys up at Joliet this year!
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More pics. Engine is in and we are mocking everything up. Fuel system is finished. Steering wheel adapter is finished.

We had to custom make an adapter for the quick release wheel. Didn't like the hub adapter as it spaced the wheel out too far. We took the center splined section out of the stock wheel and mated it to the quick release spline. Then we machined a nut to fit inside it to hold it to the column. Works great and gets our hands and arms in the position we want.











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