Turn in Concepts 2010 Track Car Build - Page 7

dunk · 04-05-2010, 07:23 AM

I'm surprised you were able to get -3.5 in the rear with just camber plates and the lateral links.

-Duncan

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Turn in Concepts · 04-05-2010, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dunk

I'm surprised you were able to get -3.5 in the rear with just camber plates and the lateral links.

-Duncan

And that was with the lat links set to close to stock length with any slop in the two strut bolts pushed towards positive camber. That is basically just the rear camber plates.

Tony

Turn in Concepts · 04-05-2010, 09:39 AM

pics from this weekend.

Turn in Concepts · 04-05-2010, 09:39 AM

jc8587 · 04-05-2010, 10:30 AM

Awesome stuff, guys!

What speeds are you seeing down the front straight at Putnam? Lap times?

Any issue through turn 4 with that much rear camber? I am running -3* and I tend not to brake in transition into 4 and I know it can be a little loose sometimes, but I am not running a wing either.

Turn in Concepts · 04-05-2010, 10:52 AM

Estimates are close to 1:10 on race gas with slicks.

the transition from 3-4 used to be really hairy last year. Car was way loose going in and through 4. It is much more controlled and manageable now. Outright speed is crazy with the race gas map. By the time we hit the curbing coming out of 4 we are shifting to 5th. We were barely hit the rev limiter in 4th before braking for 5 last year.

We were doing 150-155 before braking for 1. Last year we hit 132 max.

Tony

jc8587 · 04-05-2010, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Turn in Concepts

Estimates are close to 1:10 on race gas with slicks.

the transition from 3-4 used to be really hairy last year. Car was way loose going in and through 4. It is much more controlled and manageable now. Outright speed is crazy with the race gas map. By the time we hit the curbing coming out of 4 we are shifting to 5th. We were barely hit the rev limiter in 4th before braking for 5 last year.

We were doing 150-155 before braking for 1. Last year we hit 132 max.

Tony

To put that into persepective for other who have not been to putnam...

In my relatively stock 02 wrx (bolt ons and tune), I don't make it out of 4th gear anywhere on the track, I hit just at 125mph on the front straight, and my best laptime so far is a 1:21....

This will be a sight to see at the NASA event in May, which I assume you guys will be at to whoop up on those TT guys

jay3737 · 04-05-2010, 11:44 AM

that's just craziness at putnam!

i road in the car last year at putnam when it was 380whp, and it was ridiculously fast...so much faster around the track than anything else out there. i can't imagine what a 1:10 lap is like!

jc8587 - you must be hauling ass in a mildly modded wrx to turn 1:21 lap times - what tires were you running?

jc8587 · 04-05-2010, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jay3737

that's just craziness at putnam!

i road in the car last year at putnam when it was 380whp, and it was ridiculously fast...so much faster around the track than anything else out there. i can't imagine what a 1:10 lap is like!

jc8587 - you must be hauling ass in a mildly modded wrx to turn 1:21 lap times - what tires were you running?

Ehhh, not good ones

I am on some older (05 production date) 235/40/17 RA-1s...

I mean, I have a fair amount of suspension, not good suspension, but ok (koni yellows, gcs, castor plates, alk) and run about 16psi on my td-04, so pretty mild. I really want a front LSD when the funds allow

www.youtube.com/user/jc8587 for the video of the 1:21.9

Now back to TiC and their sweet ride!

I can't want to see it in action, and as I rode in it last year as well I can't imagine it having that kind of power. Just nuts guys.

It takes a "crazy" driver to throw that beast around... looks like you found one! *jokes!*

STi-MAN · 04-05-2010, 12:20 PM

looks like a monster next to the lotus.

STi-MAN · 04-05-2010, 12:24 PM

another question.. is there a reason you guys decided not to have the lip splitter extend a little lower?

pieces · 04-05-2010, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jay3737

jc8587 - you must be hauling ass in a mildly modded wrx to turn 1:21 lap times - what tires were you running?

He's being modest. His car is really well sorted.

TIC- Very impressive. That description of going through turn 4 makes my b**t pucker a bit.

Can't wait to see it in action as well.

Turn in Concepts · 04-05-2010, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by STi-MAN

another question.. is there a reason you guys decided not to have the lip splitter extend a little lower?

Cause we can't get it on the trailer if it's any lower.

Tony

Turn in Concepts · 04-05-2010, 01:09 PM

Just in...tires. Pic has the stack next to what we ran last year; 255 40 17 Dunlops. This year, 285 30 18 Michelin Pilot Sport Cups.

Nice thing is they are also a pound lighter.

STi-MAN · 04-05-2010, 01:13 PM

^ hahah what the? are you fitting them because of the crazy camber youguys are running? or did you pull the fenders more?

Turn in Concepts · 04-05-2010, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by STi-MAN

^ hahah what the? are you fitting them because of the crazy camber youguys are running? or did you pull the fenders more?

Little bit of both.

We had 275 35 18 Dunlop star specs mounted on 18x9.5's +45 on the car this weekend for testing. They fit just fine with 5mm spacers in the rear.

boost junkie · 04-05-2010, 01:30 PM

Interested to see how the PSC's compare to the toyos and advans that most others are running. I'll be up there on saturday with myles and probably bryan from jrz, we'll be sure to stop by your spot.

Turn in Concepts · 04-05-2010, 02:46 PM

From the research we have done they should be quite a bit better. The Porsche guys love them and given that they generally have money to spend, the fact they would keep coming back to these tires is a good thing. We were talking to Danny Popp this weekend about them and he said in his experience they have more outright grip than the RA1's and R888's.

Tony

cessna152 · 04-05-2010, 05:13 PM

Thats alotta yummy rubber there.

adizon · 04-05-2010, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Turn in Concepts

pics from this weekend.

Can't tell are these the 17's or 18's wheels? I know you had 17" DPT's but these look like 18's

Turn in Concepts · 04-05-2010, 10:16 PM

We also have a set of 18x9.5's and 18x10's. That could have been the session we were testing the 18x9.5's with 275 dunlops for the One Lap of America.

Tony

kcook · 04-05-2010, 10:44 PM

can I get a high res of this? http://lh3.ggpht.com/_em-TjXv-bp0/S7...0/DSC_1379.JPG

Turn in Concepts · 04-05-2010, 10:50 PM

PM your email addy.

Turn in Concepts · 04-06-2010, 03:22 PM

Wheels came in today. 18x10 +35. Got two sets, one is getting painted matte black today.

RallyLegacy · 04-06-2010, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Turn in Concepts

We also have a set of 18x9.5's and 18x10's. That could have been the session we were testing the 18x9.5's with 275 dunlops for the One Lap of America.

Tony

So you guys are running One Lap this year? Is there going to be much modding (or demodding) to get the car ready for that? It seems like your splitter wouldn't play well on the street, but I guess a slight ride height adjustment could fix that...

04-05-2010, 02:46 PM	#168
Turn in Concepts NASIOC Vendor Member#: 93646 Join Date: Aug 2005 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Vehicle: Many Track Records Let us help you go fast!	From the research we have done they should be quite a bit better. The Porsche guys love them and given that they generally have money to spend, the fact they would keep coming back to these tires is a good thing. We were talking to Danny Popp this weekend about them and he said in his experience they have more outright grip than the RA1's and R888's. Tony Last edited by Turn in Concepts; 04-05-2010 at 05:22 PM.

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dunk Scooby Guru Member#: 15359 Join Date: Feb 2002 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Monterey, CA	I'm surprised you were able to get -3.5 in the rear with just camber plates and the lateral links. -Duncan * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

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Turn in Concepts NASIOC Vendor Member#: 93646 Join Date: Aug 2005 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Vehicle: Many Track Records Let us help you go fast!	pics from this weekend.

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jc8587 Scooby Newbie Member#: 76201 Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Lexington, KY Vehicle: 1990 Spec Miata TMPR.net	Awesome stuff, guys! What speeds are you seeing down the front straight at Putnam? Lap times? Any issue through turn 4 with that much rear camber? I am running -3* and I tend not to brake in transition into 4 and I know it can be a little loose sometimes, but I am not running a wing either.

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Turn in Concepts NASIOC Vendor Member#: 93646 Join Date: Aug 2005 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Vehicle: Many Track Records Let us help you go fast!	Estimates are close to 1:10 on race gas with slicks. the transition from 3-4 used to be really hairy last year. Car was way loose going in and through 4. It is much more controlled and manageable now. Outright speed is crazy with the race gas map. By the time we hit the curbing coming out of 4 we are shifting to 5th. We were barely hit the rev limiter in 4th before braking for 5 last year. We were doing 150-155 before braking for 1. Last year we hit 132 max. Tony

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jay3737 Scooby Specialist Member#: 100057 Join Date: Nov 2005 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: Houston, TX Vehicle: '12 Regal GS '93 MR2, '11 Foz	that's just craziness at putnam! i road in the car last year at putnam when it was 380whp, and it was ridiculously fast...so much faster around the track than anything else out there. i can't imagine what a 1:10 lap is like! jc8587 - you must be hauling ass in a mildly modded wrx to turn 1:21 lap times - what tires were you running?

04-05-2010, 12:20 PM	#160
STi-MAN Scooby Guru Member#: 70252 Join Date: Sep 2004 Vehicle: 05 STI blue	looks like a monster next to the lotus.

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STi-MAN Scooby Guru Member#: 70252 Join Date: Sep 2004 Vehicle: 05 STI blue	another question.. is there a reason you guys decided not to have the lip splitter extend a little lower?

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Turn in Concepts NASIOC Vendor Member#: 93646 Join Date: Aug 2005 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Vehicle: Many Track Records Let us help you go fast!	Just in...tires. Pic has the stack next to what we ran last year; 255 40 17 Dunlops. This year, 285 30 18 Michelin Pilot Sport Cups. Nice thing is they are also a pound lighter.

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STi-MAN Scooby Guru Member#: 70252 Join Date: Sep 2004 Vehicle: 05 STI blue	^ hahah what the? are you fitting them because of the crazy camber youguys are running? or did you pull the fenders more?

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boost junkie Top Scoob 009 Member#: 68273 Join Date: Aug 2004 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Silver Spring, MD Vehicle: 2012 WRX GD Race Car in progress	Interested to see how the PSC's compare to the toyos and advans that most others are running. I'll be up there on saturday with myles and probably bryan from jrz, we'll be sure to stop by your spot.

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cessna152 Scooby Newbie Member#: 7523 Join Date: Jun 2001 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Central NJ Vehicle: 1999 Impreza 2.5 RS Black	Thats alotta yummy rubber there.

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Turn in Concepts NASIOC Vendor Member#: 93646 Join Date: Aug 2005 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Vehicle: Many Track Records Let us help you go fast!	We also have a set of 18x9.5's and 18x10's. That could have been the session we were testing the 18x9.5's with 275 dunlops for the One Lap of America. Tony

04-05-2010, 10:44 PM	#172
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04-05-2010, 10:50 PM	#173
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Turn in Concepts NASIOC Vendor Member#: 93646 Join Date: Aug 2005 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Vehicle: Many Track Records Let us help you go fast!	Wheels came in today. 18x10 +35. Got two sets, one is getting painted matte black today.