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Old 02-12-2010, 07:56 AM   #1
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In the let’s-do-something-anything dept., Toyota engineers are now re-jigging the keyless ignition button, reports "]Das Autohaus in Germany. According to a Toyota corporate spokesperson, the re-jigged button will cut the engines when the button is pressed three times in rapid succession.

Up to now, the button had to be pressed for three seconds to stop the engine.

Whether manic jabbing the start/stop button is more intuitive than keeping your thumb on it – or, heavens forbid – to hit the brakes and to shift into neutral – remains an open question.

“Darling, the pedal is stuck.”
“Wait, I get the owner’s manual – says here to press the button for three seconds.”
“The dealer said three times.”
“The manual says three seconds.”
“Don’t you start arguing with me.”
“You started it!”
“You stop it right now!”
“YOU stop it!”
“I’m calling my lawyer.”
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Old 02-12-2010, 08:26 AM   #2
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My car has an emergency stop button, it's located right between the gas and clutch pedals.
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Old 02-12-2010, 08:38 AM   #3
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Old 02-12-2010, 08:39 AM   #4
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Or how about they just hire competent engineers and implement a failsafe in the ecu.
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Old 02-12-2010, 08:58 AM   #5
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Old 02-12-2010, 09:20 AM   #6
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It amazes me that people don't have the brains to just put the car in nuetral and stop. Why the F do you need a stop button?!!?!? How about you implement scenarios like this in DMV testing so we can thin the herd.
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Old 02-12-2010, 10:29 AM   #7
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Maybe instead of pressing a button to start and stop the engine, you could, say, have the key turn in the ignition so that you turn it forwards to start the engine and back to stop it.

Just an idea.
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Old 02-12-2010, 10:44 AM   #8
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Maybe instead of pressing a button to start and stop the engine, you could, say, have the key turn in the ignition so that you turn it forwards to start the engine and back to stop it.

Just an idea.
because pushing a button is so much more cool than using a key.

to see, go find the threads in subaru N&R for the sti and all the people complaining that the USDM sti doesn't have push button start.
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Old 02-12-2010, 10:58 AM   #9
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It amazes me that people don't have the brains to just put the car in nuetral and stop. Why the F do you need a stop button?!!?!? How about you implement scenarios like this in DMV testing so we can thin the herd.

and if the shifter is locked and won't allow you to put it in N what do you do then?

You stomp on the brakes? o wait your speed and power of the engine over power the brakes.

now what?

you press a button to stop the engine.

makes sense to me!
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Old 02-12-2010, 11:03 AM   #10
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Most competition cars are required to have a kill switch. Toyota can just hook those things up, maybe tailoring it to just control the engine.
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Old 02-12-2010, 11:45 AM   #11
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Or like in Spaceballs The Movie"

Dark Helmet - "Stop this thing, I order you!"

Col Sanders - "We can't stop, we've got to slow down first!"
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Old 02-12-2010, 12:21 PM   #12
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and if the shifter is locked and won't allow you to put it in N what do you do then?
What car have you driven that ever locks you out of neutral???
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Old 02-12-2010, 12:57 PM   #13
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because pushing a button is so much more cool than using a key.

to see, go find the threads in subaru N&R for the sti and all the people complaining that the USDM sti doesn't have push button start.
I want "push button start" on the USDM Impreza so that I can have the keyless ignition.. not for the button.

The button on the dash still kills the motor assuming you've read the manual and know that you simply have to hold it down for a few seconds.

If you're concerned about it, installing a kill switch would probably take the average person 1/2hr.
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Old 02-12-2010, 01:08 PM   #14
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My car has an emergency stop button, it's located right between the gas and clutch pedals.
Do you think any of the people who can't figure out how to stop their car are going to be driving one with a manual gearbox?
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Old 02-12-2010, 01:10 PM   #15
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Just install a kill switch like all motorcycles have.
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Old 02-12-2010, 01:39 PM   #16
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Any Toyota driver stupid enough to start making phone calls once his throttle gets stuck deserves to die.

The existing button works fine. This is a PR move.
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Old 02-12-2010, 02:24 PM   #17
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I love the 4 position button in my current car;
  • LOCK
  • ACC
  • ON
  • START
Another nice thing is I can deactivate the button by pulling a metal tab out that fits nicely in my pocket.
All my friends seem to know how to work the button also.
Brilliant.
But I'm not some geezer with arthritis that shouldn't be driving a car and complains because I can't turn a key.
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Old 02-12-2010, 02:49 PM   #18
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Not the gum drop buttons....

OK I'm done.
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Old 02-12-2010, 03:03 PM   #19
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My car has an emergency stop button, it's located right between the gas and clutch pedals.


Because of the idiots out there, I have to buy $400 worth of TPM sensors when I change my wheels. Tire Pressure Monitors sensors exist because the vast majority of people who drive, are ignorant of what is necessary to be a responsible driver. It's not as simple as filling with gas, and driving. I'd love to be able to buy a vehicle with the "not an idiot" option that wipes out the TCS, TPMS, multitudes of airbags, etc, etc, etc.
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Old 02-12-2010, 03:08 PM   #20
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Old 02-12-2010, 04:21 PM   #21
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Because of the idiots out there, I have to buy $400 worth of TPM sensors when I change my wheels. Tire Pressure Monitors sensors exist because the vast majority of people who drive, are ignorant of what is necessary to be a responsible driver. It's not as simple as filling with gas, and driving. I'd love to be able to buy a vehicle with the "not an idiot" option that wipes out the TCS, TPMS, multitudes of airbags, etc, etc, etc.
TPMS is actually not as bad as you think. Subaru suxors big time in their TPMS design but if it was implemented the right way it's actually a nice feature. I check my tire pressure pretty often and yet I've still had two occurrences that the TPMS warned me of a flat (construction on my road, screw in the tire) and I was able to get to a tire shop without having to put the donut on.

I really hope they don't take away the airbags, those aren't really there for "idiots". I sure as hell was glad they were there when I had my last accident...

If anything, they should make these feature optional, so that we could turn them off if we don't want to use them...
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I have a 2010 4Runner on order. I see myself slipping a techno CD into the car, cranking the volume, hitting the party mode button, and announcing "party mode!" while my wife is trying to sleep in the passenger seat. Ontz ontz ontz ontz!
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Because of the idiots out there, I have to buy $400 worth of TPM sensors when I change my wheels. Tire Pressure Monitors sensors exist because the vast majority of people who drive, are ignorant of what is necessary to be a responsible driver. It's not as simple as filling with gas, and driving. I'd love to be able to buy a vehicle with the "not an idiot" option that wipes out the TCS, TPMS, multitudes of airbags, etc, etc, etc.
Brovo sir, Brovo
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