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Old 02-13-2010, 04:18 PM   #1
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now by best, i mean which will make the most power...? I havent done much research for subys in a long while...I remember when the red was the baddest. what is now? atp 35r? dom 4? I dont care if I have to do TGV deletes. i have most bpu. any input will be greatly appreciated! thanks
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Old 02-13-2010, 04:21 PM   #2
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Old 02-13-2010, 04:34 PM   #4
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cool...any serious answers?
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Old 02-13-2010, 04:43 PM   #5
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the gt52 is kinda nice...I think atp 35r external wastegate makes more on average, no?
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Old 02-13-2010, 04:57 PM   #6
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35R stok location or similar size..

but as long as you are limited to OE intake pipe size and MAF sensor, dont expect too much..
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Um no?

Atp 35r at this moment is your best bet.
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I would think ATP35R?
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Old 02-13-2010, 06:26 PM   #10
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problem is there is no right or wrong answer to this. every1 has a different opinion on what is the BEST. sorry cant be more helpful, go ask in the powertrain forums... but your going to get a million different answers.
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td04 is teh bestest
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Old 02-13-2010, 07:38 PM   #13
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now by best, i mean which will make the most power...? I havent done much research for subys in a long while...I remember when the red was the baddest. what is now? atp 35r? dom 4? I dont care if I have to do TGV deletes. i have most bpu. any input will be greatly appreciated! thanks

Then do some...
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why do you want to stay w stock location? people think its easier but it really just holds you back w the inlet necking down to 2.4" pump gas you'll see no difference but if your ever using race gas, you'll be sorry you didnt just do it the right way the first time around since your gonna do all this anyways, do it right! (imo of course) rotated or stay stock til you do
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If you want the biggest bolt in stock location turbo atp 35r will make crazy power for the stock location... but if you going to drop the coin into the fuel system... prob change to top feed and getting bigger injectors, new pump, your going to prob max the stock maf or be close to it so you need a larger maf... Your going to have to go with a new 3 inch inlet for that size turbo... now if your going to be doing all this work... why not just go rotated? now I KNOW you said stock location...

but I just installed a 3 inch inlet dom 3 stock location and when all was said and done I would have been happier and prob easier just to going rotated... Just my 2 cent's and if you dont care I understand I didnt when people tried to tell me the same thing... good luck and if you stay stock location. and post the numbers up

PS: 3 inch inlet turbo + 3inch inlet hard pipe + stock location = pain in the ass

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why do you want to stay w stock location? people think its easier but it really just holds you back w the inlet necking down to 2.4" pump gas you'll see no difference but if your ever using race gas, you'll be sorry you didnt just do it the right way the first time around since your gonna do all this anyways, do it right! (imo of course) rotated or stay stock til you do
you can have a 3 inch inlet...but fitting the hard pipe is a pita... what I did is got blow through maf and open inlet turbo
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^^ +++11111. everyone always wants to have their cake and eat it too lol. If you want the most power, go rotated. At which point you should build the motor and add the supporting mods. If that isn't something you're going to do, than go with an hta68 which is absolutely the best bang for the buck turbo out there. You need a more specific goal than, " the best turbo out there..!"
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Old 02-13-2010, 07:55 PM   #18
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thanks for the replies! I thought it was the atp 35r, but wasnt too sure. I want to stay stock location for now, cuz I cant really afford the rotated mount setup right now. I have a 3" inlet to put on, so no worries there...On pump, 400whp would be nice. so if thtis guy can get me there, im good. thanks again
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^ go with dom 3.0 xtr! or somthing along those lines... will get you 400 and spools allot better the a 35r

or look at some 30r setups...

remember 3 things about cars that everyone wants fast, cheap, reliabilty
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cheap+fast= NO RELIABILTY
fast+reliabitly= NOT CHEAP

you can only have two, so if your going do it save the coin do it right because the parts you put on to get you to 400hp will have to replaced to get to 500 +... so leave room to grow if you plan to go bigger.. hence why i have 1100cc injectors when all I need is 850cc

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Sorry to jump on your thread, but since everyone is being so helpful here (), I might as well ask.

Sometime soon I'll be sending in my engine to have Rallispec build it to their race-spec package (minus the sleeves) and I'd like to up the power to go along with that. If I wanted to maintain good spool characteristics, the 2.4" inlet, TMIC, 94 oct, and no meth, what sort of turbo would be the best? My goal is around 360-380whp or, in drag strip terms, I'd like to see trap speeds in the 115-118 range. The car will primarily be used on road courses that don't have very long straights (except for one track), so massive top end power isn't that important. I would like something that doesn't die off like the stock turbo though.

Essentially, I've narrowed my selection down to a Blouch TD06H-20G or Dom 2.5R, maybe even the 2.5 XTR, though the 10cm housing concerns me with regards to spool and I don't know if it has a 2.4" inlet.
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Sorry to jump on your thread, but since everyone is being so helpful here (), I might as well ask.

Sometime soon I'll be sending in my engine to have Rallispec build it to their race-spec package (minus the sleeves) and I'd like to up the power to go along with that. If I wanted to maintain good spool characteristics, the 2.4" inlet, TMIC, 94 oct, and no meth, what sort of turbo would be the best? My goal is around 360-380whp or, in drag strip terms, I'd like to see trap speeds in the 115-118 range. The car will primarily be used on road courses that don't have very long straights (except for one track), so massive top end power isn't that important. I would like something that doesn't die off like the stock turbo though.

Essentially, I've narrowed my selection down to a Blouch TD06H-20G or Dom 2.5R, maybe even the 2.5 XTR, though the 10cm housing concerns me with regards to spool and I don't know if it has a 2.4" inlet.
all those turbos are about the same and they both come in 2.4" inlets. i would just buy whatever that is cheaper but if you want the billet wheel then get the xtr duh.
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all those turbos are about the same and they both come in 2.4" inlets. i would just buy whatever that is cheaper but if you want the billet wheel then get the xtr duh.
do a 10cm hotside with a 3 inch inlet with a billit wheel dom 3.0 xtr you will make 400 with a good tune on pump and have room to go, and prepare for a new clutch and motor down the road . meth will help
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Sorry to jump on your thread, but since everyone is being so helpful here (), I might as well ask.

Sometime soon I'll be sending in my engine to have Rallispec build it to their race-spec package (minus the sleeves) and I'd like to up the power to go along with that. If I wanted to maintain good spool characteristics, the 2.4" inlet, TMIC, 94 oct, and no meth, what sort of turbo would be the best? My goal is around 360-380whp or, in drag strip terms, I'd like to see trap speeds in the 115-118 range. The car will primarily be used on road courses that don't have very long straights (except for one track), so massive top end power isn't that important. I would like something that doesn't die off like the stock turbo though.

Essentially, I've narrowed my selection down to a Blouch TD06H-20G or Dom 2.5R, maybe even the 2.5 XTR, though the 10cm housing concerns me with regards to spool and I don't know if it has a 2.4" inlet.
^20g..maybe even a dom 3.0 with a 8cm hoatside and a 2.5 inlet, but more expensive. If you want more spool for track you should look at the hta86 crazy spool with the extra top-end that the stock vf39 is lagging, its not a big turbo but it is efficient. but those are good choices and either of those will work so what ever fits your price range and performance... it the supporting mods that catch you like injectors and stuff like that
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thanks for the replies! I thought it was the atp 35r, but wasnt too sure. I want to stay stock location for now, cuz I cant really afford the rotated mount setup right now. I have a 3" inlet to put on, so no worries there...On pump, 400whp would be nice. so if thtis guy can get me there, im good. thanks again
It'll take a high-reading dyno to get 400 whp on pump with that turbo but you may see it.

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^ go with dom 3.0 xtr! or somthing along those lines... will get you 400 and spools allot better the a 35r
Show me an example of an XT-R spooling better and making 400whp on pump than a ATP GT35R. I don't remember seeing that.

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Sorry to jump on your thread, but since everyone is being so helpful here (), I might as well ask.

Sometime soon I'll be sending in my engine to have Rallispec build it to their race-spec package (minus the sleeves) and I'd like to up the power to go along with that. If I wanted to maintain good spool characteristics, the 2.4" inlet, TMIC, 94 oct, and no meth, what sort of turbo would be the best? My goal is around 360-380whp or, in drag strip terms, I'd like to see trap speeds in the 115-118 range. The car will primarily be used on road courses that don't have very long straights (except for one track), so massive top end power isn't that important. I would like something that doesn't die off like the stock turbo though.

Essentially, I've narrowed my selection down to a Blouch TD06H-20G or Dom 2.5R, maybe even the 2.5 XTR, though the 10cm housing concerns me with regards to spool and I don't know if it has a 2.4" inlet.
The 2.5 XT-R isn't released yet is it? Besides, it'll spool slowly just like the other XT-Rs. If you're staying with a TMIC you should probably stick with the Polka Pickle but you'll need a lot of supporting mods to see 360-380whp on pump. I bet you'd be happier with a rotated 30R with the topmount.
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Just go rotated, i wish i did...
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