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Old 02-15-2010, 09:44 AM   #1
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Motorcycle and scooter sales sank right along with gas prices last year, as many motorists decided squeaking as many miles out of a gallon of fuel as possible was no longer a priority.

As a result, Honda's decision to introduce the Elite scooter to the U.S. market for the 2010 model year may not have been as timely as they might have hoped.

With a liquid-cooled and fuel-injected 108-cc engine, Honda claims the Elite is capable of an impressive 107 mpg. While real-world results will probably be somewhat less, the Elite’s fuel economy will likely still be impressive. And fuel injection means buyers who store their bikes in the winter months won’t have to deal with gummed up carburetors after the off season.

The Elite also features Honda’s Combined Braking System (CBS), which helps distribute braking force between front and rear wheels even if the rider doesn’t apply both.

Already a sales success in Europe, the Elite is priced at $2,995 and is available at Honda dealers now. And presumably will still be available when gas prices go up again
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Old 02-15-2010, 09:53 PM   #2
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My wife and I rented one for a week when we were in Jamaica and it was great fun and all the transportation we needed. I would definitely own one if I lived and worked in the city.
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Old 02-15-2010, 09:58 PM   #3
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Scooters scare me. All the smallness and other problem associated with a motorcycle, without the power to move quickly if you really have to.
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Old 02-15-2010, 10:37 PM   #4
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Scooters scare me. All the smallness and other problem associated with a motorcycle, without the power to move quickly if you really have to.
Motorcycles scare my wife, on the other hand, and she wants an Elite (or a Zuma 125). Go figure.
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Old 02-15-2010, 10:39 PM   #5
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This engine in a Ruckus and I'd get a Ruckus again. Damn shame that thing couldn't go over 42mph. I'd love to have it for a spring, summer, and fall commuter again, but 55mph roads don't jive w/ 42mph scooters.
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Old 02-15-2010, 11:25 PM   #6
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Scooters scare me. All the smallness and other problem associated with a motorcycle, without the power to move quickly if you really have to.
enough power for the cut and thrust of the city. Think of it as quicker than a bike, not slower than a motorcycle.
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This engine in a Ruckus and I'd get a Ruckus again. Damn shame that thing couldn't go over 42mph. I'd love to have it for a spring, summer, and fall commuter again, but 55mph roads don't jive w/ 42mph scooters.
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It's a 250, I think. I did a few miles on one a couple years back, it goes OK. Dunno what the top speed is, 65 should be cake though. 55 was no problem at all. Unfortunately it lacks the storage of the classic little Ruckus.
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Old 02-16-2010, 02:07 AM   #8
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My 1965 Honda S65 was rated at 150mpg. Progress?
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Old 02-16-2010, 07:11 AM   #9
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The Big Ruck was rather expensive from what I remember. $4k or so?
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Old 02-16-2010, 07:42 AM   #10
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It's a 250, I think. I did a few miles on one a couple years back, it goes OK. Dunno what the top speed is, 65 should be cake though. 55 was no problem at all. Unfortunately it lacks the storage of the classic little Ruckus.
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Old 02-16-2010, 04:07 PM   #11
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but 55mph roads don't jive w/ 42mph scooters.
Perhaps that should read stupid drivers don't jive with scooters, nothing wrong with going 42 in a 55 if the other drivers can be trusted to drive their cars
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I have 50,000 miles on a Silverwing - all commute miles in San Francisco.
Nothing tops a well built scooter even if its 600cc and 500+lbs. The low center of gravity - simple twist and go makes riding in traffic super easy and way less complicated than a standard bike.

I ride motorcycles too - but the scooter is king in traffic and congested city streets. Not to mention you usually have a nice hidden trunk space to stash stuff while your at dinner etc.
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This engine in a Ruckus and I'd get a Ruckus again. Damn shame that thing couldn't go over 42mph. I'd love to have it for a spring, summer, and fall commuter again, but 55mph roads don't jive w/ 42mph scooters.
Don't be fooled by the displacement.. the Elite still barely tops 50mph. Kinda sucks to spend the money to license, insure and register a scooter for 10 more mph.
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Don't be fooled by the displacement.. the Elite still barely tops 50mph. Kinda sucks to spend the money to license, insure and register a scooter for 10 more mph.
If you ride on roads that are over 45mph you need a bike/scooter that can do 65 easily. Not that your riding on a 45mph street at 65mph - you need the ability to accelerate out of blind spots or into open lanes away from oblivious cagers.

If your sharing the road with cars you need the ability to quickly move out of the way and away from said cars. If your riding at max out put and at the speed limit your options for defensive riding have just been cut by 2/3's. Not a good thing considering you have the odds stacked against you already.

I think 250cc is the smallest bike that can safely be ridden in traffic exceeding 40-45mph. Most 250's will do 65 and be breaking a sweat at 80mph. Very few stock 250's will break 100mph.

Though having 0-100mph in 8.5 seconds on a 600cc scooter is a major grin inducing effect and generates lots of double takes by the knuckle/knee dragger types when they can't spot you in the mirror and look up to see you scooting along beside them all comfy like behind a windscreen. HA HA

By the way anything over 90-95 on a two wheeler isn't all that enjoyable unless your on a track and can really groove the turns. 120mph on a two wheeler is fast.

Getting hit by blown tire treads at 90mph hurts and causes damage to your bike - I had the joy of experiencing that. Getting hit by a freaking bird while doing 80mph not so fun either. Really laying down the turns on CA Highway 1 early in the morning on a Sunday Epic and priceless!
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If you ride on roads that are over 45mph you need a bike/scooter that can do 65 easily. Not that your riding on a 45mph street at 65mph - you need the ability to accelerate out of blind spots or into open lanes away from oblivious cagers.

If your sharing the road with cars you need the ability to quickly move out of the way and away from said cars. If your riding at max out put and at the speed limit your options for defensive riding have just been cut by 2/3's. Not a good thing considering you have the odds stacked against you already.
No doubt. If you're going to go to the trouble of owning a scooter with more than 50cc in the US (51cc displacement >= a vehicle must be registered and insured for use on the road in most US states), you would be better off to throw a few more $10 bills a month into riding and owning a larger/faster machine that can keep up with all kinds of traffic without stress.

A buddy of mine just bought a fairly cheap 50cc scooter for commuting less than 2 miles along a 20-25mph road. It makes perfect sense for that scenario. It's usable on the 35mph roads.. but a bit scary.
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No doubt. If you're going to go to the trouble of owning a scooter with more than 50cc in the US (51cc displacement >= a vehicle must be registered and insured for use on the road in most US states), you would be better off to throw a few more $10 bills a month into riding and owning a larger/faster machine that can keep up with all kinds of traffic without stress.

A buddy of mine just bought a fairly cheap 50cc scooter for commuting less than 2 miles along a 20-25mph road. It makes perfect sense for that scenario. It's usable on the 35mph roads.. but a bit scary.
I lived in a college town of 50k w/ all 25mph roads when I had my Ruckus. It was awesome at the time. Then I moved to a town of 1k w/ all 45+mph roads.
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