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Old 04-19-2010, 07:17 PM   #126
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Could you give an idea of any other issues or annoyances you have with the Vipec V88 EMS for prospective buyers?
Cold start is horrible. Probably like 3-5 seconds of cranking but it's no biggie.
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Old 04-19-2010, 07:30 PM   #127
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Cold start is horrible. Probably like 3-5 seconds of cranking but it's no biggie.
Sure it's related to the ECU? I don't have any experience with that ECU, but it could just be the tune. Starting can be a difficult thing to tune to start as fast as the OEM tune for all scenarios. You can often copy the stock tune as far as timing and injector control go, but you make enough engine, ignition, or fuel system changes, or cam/crank position sensor changes and it can change it significantly.
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Old 04-19-2010, 07:58 PM   #128
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Sure it's related to the ECU? I don't have any experience with that ECU, but it could just be the tune. Starting can be a difficult thing to tune to start as fast as the OEM tune for all scenarios. You can often copy the stock tune as far as timing and injector control go, but you make enough engine, ignition, or fuel system changes, or cam/crank position sensor changes and it can change it significantly.
Right now it's really iffy with the current firmware. The idle control isn't controlled by a target RPM and the way the temperature fuel compensation is setup right now along with cold start cranking enrichment makes it really hard to tune.

Idle control is done through 2 base tables done in % of throttle opening. That's it. It's kind of hard to explain but right now it's kinda like having a good cold start or a good hot start. I know it's a fuel issue though.
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Old 04-19-2010, 08:07 PM   #129
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Right now it's really iffy with the current firmware. The idle control isn't controlled by a target RPM and the way the temperature fuel compensation is setup right now along with cold start cranking enrichment makes it really hard to tune.

Idle control is done through 2 base tables done in % of throttle opening. That's it. It's kind of hard to explain but right now it's kinda like having a good cold start or a good hot start. I know it's a fuel issue though.
Hmm.... Maybe I should stick with what I have right now in the mean time then....

I read David Buschur's review on the Vipec also, and he alluded to things not being quite perfect with them... bugs... I was not able to get a more comprehensive review from people who actually own these things though as to what they liked or did not like about it.

I think it might need to mature a bit before I make the jump to it.

I believe there was a new firmware released today for the V88 though... but I'm sure as an owner you knew about that already
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Old 04-19-2010, 08:13 PM   #130
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Cold start is horrible. Probably like 3-5 seconds of cranking but it's no biggie.
WoW... Just to be clear, we ARE talking about the Vipec V88 right??

From what I have been told about it, the V88 starts just like stock?

Would you be able to take some video footage of it starting and the like? I'm just trying to get a better idea as to whether things have actually progressed in the EMS world as much as the hype suggests?
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Old 04-19-2010, 08:47 PM   #131
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Hmm.... Maybe I should stick with what I have right now in the mean time then....

I read David Buschur's review on the Vipec also, and he alluded to things not being quite perfect with them... bugs... I was not able to get a more comprehensive review from people who actually own these things though as to what they liked or did not like about it.

I think it might need to mature a bit before I make the jump to it.

I believe there was a new firmware released today for the V88 though... but I'm sure as an owner you knew about that already
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WoW... Just to be clear, we ARE talking about the Vipec V88 right??

From what I have been told about it, the V88 starts just like stock?

Would you be able to take some video footage of it starting and the like? I'm just trying to get a better idea as to whether things have actually progressed in the EMS world as much as the hype suggests?
Oh wow! Many changes and additions! Can't wait to update now

Yes there are bugs but they are slowly getting sorted out. In my opinion the pros outweigh the cons still. Yes it's a Vi-Pec V88.

When I get some more free time (doing some business exams right now) I'll tinker around with the ECU more.
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Old 04-23-2010, 06:08 PM   #132
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Old 04-23-2010, 06:48 PM   #133
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Thats a pretty sick vid. I like the style of it. Your car rips man... so good.
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Old 04-23-2010, 09:02 PM   #134
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sweet video
how are u guys able to fit so much stuff into the cars haha seems like a few had track rims
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Old 04-23-2010, 09:55 PM   #135
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Thats a pretty sick vid. I like the style of it. Your car rips man... so good.
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how are u guys able to fit so much stuff into the cars haha seems like a few had track rims
We had other cars that came down as well that carried some of our luggage, gas, rims, etc..
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Old 04-24-2010, 12:41 PM   #136
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man you guys are pretty organized.. ppl usually scramble to leave right away.. haha.. you guys going to be there this wed?
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Old 04-25-2010, 05:46 AM   #137
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man you guys are pretty organized.. ppl usually scramble to leave right away.. haha.. you guys going to be there this wed?
We'll all be there on May 22 with PCA PNWR. At least 10 of us will be leaving for Seattle on Friday May 21.

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Old 04-26-2010, 09:53 PM   #138
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yay bump for APL Motorsports.
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Old 04-28-2010, 12:34 AM   #139
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One of my friend may participate in this event too but not confirm yet coz he's working in AB. Hope I can be there to spectate & take pix, videos etc.
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Old 04-28-2010, 11:14 AM   #140
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Ricky?
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Old 04-28-2010, 07:05 PM   #141
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Is it Ricky Bobby?

Bump for homo motorsports going to take over this 'apl' stuff...
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Old 04-29-2010, 01:02 AM   #142
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Ricky Ho.....
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Old 05-02-2010, 08:43 PM   #143
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Hi ho! I will be there!
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Old 05-04-2010, 04:46 PM   #144
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I'll be there LOL
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Old 05-01-2011, 09:12 PM   #146
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Wow, been almost a year since I updated this thread. Weather has been crap March/April so didn't do any track days.

Getting warmer so I decided to put on my new rotors Johann @ Girodisc in Bellingham hooked me up with. Way better than the DBA 5000 stuff everyone is running for this price range. 2 piece rotor so it weighs 16.5lb compared to the 20.5lb stock rotor. Curved directional vane design so it actually pumps air from the inside > outside of the rotor unlike the "kangaroo paw" DBA 5000's or pillar vane stockies.

28mm min thickness.


OEM (20.5lb) left. Girodisc (16.5lb) right. Reduction of 4lb unsprung weight each side. Total 8lb. Better acceleration!


Up-close laser etched.


Directional vanes. Pumps air from inside to outside.


Hardware up close. Spring to reduce noise.


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Old 05-01-2011, 09:58 PM   #147
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sweet, two piece rotor club! i just stuck mine on friday! but i got the kangaroo paw lol
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Old 05-01-2011, 11:37 PM   #148
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Real nice replacements!
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Old 05-02-2011, 02:24 AM   #149
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how much were they if you don't mind me asking?
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Old 05-02-2011, 02:54 AM   #150
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I am guessing similar to the DBA 5000 rotors at around 800 for the pair?
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