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Old 02-19-2010, 04:13 PM   #1
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Ford to merge U.S. and European performance lines; Focus RS coming to America?

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2009 Ford Focus RS – Click above for high-res image gallery

Our friends across the pond in Europe have always good things to say about the Ford Focus RS, leading to a great deal of angst in America since the Blue Oval Boys have never brought the hi-po Focus Stateside. News from Jost Capito, the man in charge of aligning Ford's performance divisions all around the globe, has us anxiously awaiting the time when that gross oversight is finally corrected.

Automobile recently got the chance to sit down and chat with Capito, and the conversation quickly turned to the new global Ford Focus platform that was recently unveiled at the Detroit Auto Show. According to Capito, Ford is still deciding what to call the next-gen high-performance Focus, saying only, "I don't see RS in Europe going away, and I don't see SVT in the U.S. going away."

Regardless of what it's called, we could very well see the speedy Focus take on multiple forms – similar to the path Ford has taken with the car in Europe with both a Focus ST and top-level RS. Previously, we heard rumors that a 240-horsepower Ecoboost-powered Focus ST could hit the scene within 18 months, followed by the latest RS, which could sport a 350-horsepower all-wheel drive hybrid powertrain, within the next three years.
There are plenty more interesting tidbits in the interview, click here to follow along.
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Old 02-19-2010, 04:26 PM   #2
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Old 02-19-2010, 04:41 PM   #3
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Old 02-19-2010, 04:48 PM   #4
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Old 02-19-2010, 04:50 PM   #5
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Old 02-19-2010, 05:04 PM   #6
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RS= undriveable.
Torque steer fail.
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Old 02-19-2010, 05:06 PM   #7
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Oh please, oh please! In that color too. Or maybe an orange.

If that landed here, it would be my next car, 100%.
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Old 02-19-2010, 05:08 PM   #8
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RS= undriveable.
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followed by the latest RS, which could sport a 350-horsepower all-wheel drive hybrid powertrain, within the next three years.
And torque steer is the eternal war cry of the AWD fanboi's. It is really not THAT bad. Everyone screamed torque steer on the MS3, and I was very suprised when I actualy drove it.
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Old 02-19-2010, 05:17 PM   #9
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RS= undriveable.
Torque steer fail.
w0w......s0000000000000

if they are undriveable............why do they sell so many of them???




jesus.....what a bunch of wankers
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Old 02-19-2010, 05:59 PM   #10
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One thing too, if Volkswagen can import Golfs from Germany and make a profit on them, there's nothing stopping Ford from running an extra shift in Germany to produce Focus RSes for North America especially since the basic car already is homologated.

Would make it easier for Ford, I guess, than spending $texas on retooling the Michigan line since they claimed it would be $texas to make a Diesel Fiesta in Mexico.
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Old 02-19-2010, 07:08 PM   #11
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RS= undriveable.
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ra33it = ignorant


And, ever heard of Revo Knuckle? Google it smart guy............
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Old 02-19-2010, 07:16 PM   #12
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A revo knuckle, proper sized axle shafts, and a good alignment will only take a fwd car so far. In the end, physics dictates that when you're powering the wheels that also need to turn, that you're going to be limited. Then there's the whole weight transfer thing...

But an AWD platform makes up for a lot of those downfalls. I wonder what kind of AWD they would go with?
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Old 02-19-2010, 08:04 PM   #13
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A revo knuckle, proper sized axle shafts, and a good alignment will only take a fwd car so far.
The deal killer for me when it comes to FWD is traction. Even a stage 2+ GTI spends an awful lot of time spinning the tires, and that's not 350 horsepower. If I'm going to have traction issues, I'd rather have it be the rear wheels.
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This would be the first Ford I ever bought.
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If they release it with AWD I may just have to get one.
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If they decide to make an AWD RS I'm in!
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Old 02-20-2010, 06:29 PM   #17
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there are lots of small cars in the EU that i would totally buy
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I'd trade the car in immediately for this, fwd and all. I watched clarkson hang the a$$ of this thing out while watching an 08 STI understeer itself to death. AWD is not the end all be all....
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Old 02-20-2010, 10:42 PM   #19
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Hmmm...way to be about 6-7 years late Ford.


Ecoboost the Fusion already.
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And torque steer is the eternal war cry of the AWD fanboi's. It is really not THAT bad. Everyone screamed torque steer on the MS3, and I was very suprised when I actualy drove it.
And torque steer isn't THAT bad is the war cry of all of the MS3, Cobalt and Neon fanboi's who refuse to talk about complete lack of traction in a fwd car with decent power.
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And torque steer isn't THAT bad is the war cry of all of the MS3, Cobalt and Neon fanboi's who refuse to talk about complete lack of traction in a fwd car with decent power.
Yet the MS3 and Cobalt SS (turbo version) have been shown time and again to be faster around a track than a WRX.........
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Yet the MS3 and Cobalt SS (turbo version) have been shown time and again to be faster around a track than a WRX.........
That is due to straightline speed at a roll. I would assume the other posters are talking about launching and applying power in slower corners.
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Old 02-21-2010, 10:18 AM   #24
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Wrong.. I drove a 2009 WRX and the MS3 handles better in ALL situations, that is why I bought it. The only time the car has a fault is at a stop light launch. If you think a stock WRX can beat a MS3 around a track, ANY track, your sadly mistaken. The steering response, brakes, directional transitions, and acceleration is better in the MS3. The MS3 will Probably loose off the line though. But anything past an 1/8th mile, the WRX is doomed.

The speed 3 has a more efficient drive train, and FAR more torque. Yes, the MS3 does have a tinge of torque steer, no doubt, yes you can notice it if your running it at above 9/10ths on uneven pavement at times. It is still not really an issue ever. I have never said, oh man, I almost lost control due to all the torque steer. Claims it makes the cars undrivable are senseless and without merit.

Go drive one... and be honest, and tell me it is not one of the best handling cars out there in the 25-35000 dollar range

and before you cry fanboi, I have owned 7 subarus, and the mazda was the first non subaru I have owned in 9 years. So I know exactly what I am talking about..
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I have driven a MS3. It is a very capable car--that would be even more so if it was AWD... . And before you call me an AWD fanboi my track/autox car is FWD.
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