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Old 02-20-2010, 02:32 PM   #1
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Default Where to find a 2L turbo WRX motor?

I have a 914 with a tired motor that I want to punt in favor of the Subaru motor. Any input on what motors to get/not to get or where to get/not to get them would be appreciated. Thanks guys.

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Old 02-20-2010, 03:12 PM   #2
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I would recommend any motor out of a 90-95 subaru. Specifically the legacys, because they are so many of them out there. Imprezas are probably a little more work as the harness runs across to the drivers side fender for the motor, but at the same time the harness will be longer so you have more options in placing everything.

I've done a few conversions into sandrails with SVX motors and 2.0-2.2 amd they run jsut fine using the stock harness (stripped down of course) and the stock ecu.

You might be able to find a donor car on craigslist that needs a trans or something stupid, pull all the parts and sell or trash the rest.

I've seen plenty of legacys at the salvage yards in phx, that would make good donor cars, specially at the "U-pull it" yards. I would call around and see what you can find, also check "www.car-part.com" that will search most of hte inventory of the higher-end yards, some of the smaller yards won't have the software, so you'll just have to call them.

Try to use a harness and ecu that both came from the same car, the motor doesn't really matter as long as the ecu supports all the sensors, EGR is probably one of the only concerns.
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Old 02-20-2010, 03:17 PM   #3
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Old 02-20-2010, 09:33 PM   #4
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Are the Legacy motors turbo? I've seen very few donor cars around here that are worth jack. I've seen places like Outfront Motorsports that make adapter harnesses/ECUs for these applications, but those are ~$1500.

I've come across some SVX motors but I've heard they're heavy and parts are sometimes expensive. Keeping my little bucket light would be nice.

If you should see a suitable donor in your harvesting (assuming you don't need it), if you could let me know that would be awesome. I'm in Tucson, but would come up to Phoenix for the right bits.
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Old 02-21-2010, 11:32 AM   #5
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talk to japcarrealgood.
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Old 02-23-2010, 03:37 AM   #6
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i have a motor.. its from an 03wrx wagon
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Old 02-27-2010, 10:55 PM   #7
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i forgot to mention that if you use a obdii setp, you run into the problem of not having a speedometer sensorto bfeed the ecu if you are using a vw transmission, you would have to get a hydra probablyor you might be able to tune it out with open ecu. you might be able to use an older ecu to run a obdii motor, just have to repin the ecu plugs.
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Old 02-27-2010, 11:22 PM   #8
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if you decide to go 2.5......here is a 2.5 cheap!!!

http://prescott.craigslist.org/pts/1620847210.html
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Old 02-28-2010, 09:56 AM   #9
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i forgot to mention that if you use a obdii setp, you run into the problem of not having a speedometer sensorto bfeed the ecu if you are using a vw transmission, you would have to get a hydra probablyor you might be able to tune it out with open ecu. you might be able to use an older ecu to run a obdii motor, just have to repin the ecu plugs.
Yeah, on the 901 trans (Porsche --> VW is 091?) the speedometer sensor is in it. Hydra? And Open ECU: Is that a Subaru tuning utility for a laptop I assume?

I may have a line on a WRX motor with an STI turbo and injectors. We'll see.
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Old 02-28-2010, 10:03 AM   #10
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http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/rvs/1617172392.html

its an older motor with waercooled intercooler...
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Thanks for the CL ads guys. I need an ECU and harness at least though unless people have those or I can source them from elsewhere relatively inexpensively. It's making the $1800 WRX motor (complete) sound better and better since that's also a price shipped to me.
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Thanks for the CL ads guys. I need an ECU and harness at least though unless people have those or I can source them from elsewhere relatively inexpensively. It's making the $1800 WRX motor (complete) sound better and better since that's also a price shipped to me.
i forgot to ask, is that WRX motor obd i or ii?

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Yeah, on the 901 trans (Porsche --> VW is 091?) the speedometer sensor is in it. Hydra? And Open ECU: Is that a Subaru tuning utility for a laptop I assume?

I may have a line on a WRX motor with an STI turbo and injectors. We'll see.
hydra is a standalone ecu, it will alow you to run without the spedometer sensor hooked up. I think they're $1500 ish

openecu allows you to tune a factory ecu, not sure if you'll be able to get it running properly without the speedo. basically free, you just need someone with teh cable

Maybe the porsche sensor will work for ecu, im sure google will yield the answer. Best thing to do is search people that all ready have done conversions.

also keep in my ind you have to get the bell housing adapter and the flywheel, that **** is pricey, but sometimes you can find a good deal on a used one.

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Old 03-01-2010, 02:53 PM   #13
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I've seen those Hydra pieces (Outfront motorsports). I was hoping I could do without one. I believe all motors after '96 are OBD II, so this one being a 2003 0r 04 should be OBD II as well.

I know about the bellhousing/flywheel bit and it's in the plans. I think for a comparatively rare piece (how many Suby 914s are really running around anyway?) the odds of finding a used one are slim to none. The whole setup through KEP or Smallcar is ~$450.
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I've seen those Hydra pieces (Outfront motorsports). I was hoping I could do without one. I believe all motors after '96 are OBD II, so this one being a 2003 0r 04 should be OBD II as well.

I know about the bellhousing/flywheel bit and it's in the plans. I think for a comparatively rare piece (how many Suby 914s are really running around anyway?) the odds of finding a used one are slim to none. The whole setup through KEP or Smallcar is ~$450.
should be the same piece as the vw

there's plenty of those around from people doing sandrail/vw bus/vanagon conversions.

You'd be surprised how many people buy a lot of the stuff and abandon the project becasue they need the cash.
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ignore that link that was here, I read taht wrong

The guy that I built teh rails for says that the adapters pop up on craigs every once in a while

I bet if you put a wanted ad for subaru VW adapter conversion parts, you'll get some calls

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