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Old 03-04-2010, 03:40 PM   #26
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went over to wally land yesterday, couldnt find ultra, only PP but i did see rotella t 2.5 gallon jug for $25
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Old 03-05-2010, 08:40 PM   #27
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I will give it a try if I can get the Ultra 5w-40 weight.
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Old 03-09-2010, 12:05 AM   #28
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No, apples to oranges in regards to Subaru's vs. DI cars (although Subaru may go that way soon). I'm running an ester based oil now (Red Line). I may try PU (I love saying PU) if the Euro 5W-30 will be easy to find.

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Unfortunately, I suspect the PU Euro will be about as easy to come by as PP Euro, which is to say not at all easy to come by.

With PP Euro you can get it from what, one internet distributor and you might get your local Napa to order it for you?

Even the Euro version is not that impressive on the surface. All the OEM specs are old. Where's BMW LL-04, MB 229.51, and VW/Audi 504.00/507.00? Heck PU doesn't even meet VW/Audi 505.01. At least it's ACEA A3.

You can enjoy saying PU all you want, just don't start saying FU.
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Old 03-10-2010, 12:50 AM   #29
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Unless someone says otherwise, I'm going to try out the Ultra for my first few oil changes. It'll be my first oil change ever on the car, so we'll see. I'll update once I've made the change and have something to report.
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Old 03-10-2010, 09:34 PM   #30
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Unless someone says otherwise, I'm going to try out the Ultra for my first few oil changes. It'll be my first oil change ever on the car, so we'll see. I'll update once I've made the change and have something to report.
Good you can be the guinea pig. Do some uoa's too, although the first 8-12k miles will probably just show high wear metals from break-in and a 20 grade oil like most new turbo subies.

Did you see that Pennzoil is taking questions at bitog?

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Old 03-10-2010, 09:37 PM   #31
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Old 03-10-2010, 11:51 PM   #32
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I will give it a try if I can get the Ultra 5w-40 weight.

i browsed the local Walmart today and there are almost NO 5w40(or 0w40 or 10w40, either) synthetic oils available other than the Rotella T.....4qt for $19

Plenty of 5w20 and 5w30 and 10w30......

they had 2.5gallon jugs of the regular 15w40 for $25 and 5qt Valvoline MAX Life for $14
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Old 05-27-2010, 11:27 PM   #33
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sorry to bring up an old post, but I'm looking into either Rotella T6 or Pennzoil Ultra because they're both available at wally world for a lot cheaper than what I'm paying for motul.

Soo.....anyone else have any remarks on the new Pennzoil Ultra?
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Old 05-28-2010, 12:40 AM   #34
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check out bitog about it... but i honestly haven't heard of this stuff in any wrxs... i'd be curious to see what happens

rotella t6 is a proven solid product
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ima do the valvoline dura blend in 10w40 this time around......5qt and a Purolator Premium filter for $19.99 at Advance Auto
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Old 05-28-2010, 12:42 PM   #36
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first, couldnt find this stuff anywhere. then, after i already bought my GC, it hits wallyland. now that im looking for it again, no one has it
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^^^ I wouldn't be too excited about the regular (energy conserving) grades of PU in a turbo Subie. It won't have the HT/HS viscosity of GC and the benefits of lower deposit formation in a Subie are unknown at best.

Any specific reason you want to use PU? Just giving it a try?
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Old 06-07-2010, 07:27 PM   #38
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okay, i just bought this stuff from wally land today and am going to see how it works out for my next couple oil changes. only thing is that after i bought it, i noticed it had that danged energy conserving mark on the back

so, we'll see how it goes. im just going to do a 3k OCI and see how the UOA turns out
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Old 06-07-2010, 07:35 PM   #39
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^^^ I wouldn't be too excited about the regular (energy conserving) grades of PU in a turbo Subie. It won't have the HT/HS viscosity of GC and the benefits of lower deposit formation in a Subie are unknown at best.

Any specific reason you want to use PU? Just giving it a try?

just giving it a try. its about $8 cheaper than GC and about $3 more than RT6.
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Old 06-07-2010, 07:54 PM   #40
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So I'm running PU 10w30 right now. The oil I used previous to this was the Motul 300V 5w30, which is double the price of the PU. But I have to say, I don't get a new oil feel after my change. The 300V feels nice. I'm planning on a UOA after the factory recommended 3750 miles and see how it is...
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Old 06-07-2010, 10:21 PM   #41
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So I'm running PU 10w30 right now. The oil I used previous to this was the Motul 300V 5w30, which is double the price of the PU. But I have to say, I don't get a new oil feel after my change. The 300V feels nice. I'm planning on a UOA after the factory recommended 3750 miles and see how it is...
No comparison at all, IMO. PUis made from good Group III base stocks and is an Energy Conserving oil. 300V is made from Group V ester base stocks with higher levels of Anti Wear additives, thicker viscosity at operating temp. and a higher High Temp High Shear.

You may feel a difference based only on 300V's esters. At least I did when I used Red Line.

Post the PU UOA! I haven't seen any yet on a turbo subie.

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Old 06-25-2010, 01:23 PM   #42
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I just picked up 5 quarts and a PureOne filter for $32.99 at Pep Boys. The special isn't advertised online but is in the store.

FWIW, I got the 5W-30. I'm half tempted to return it and just go with my old tried at true German Castrol 0W-30. As GC is a "thick" 30 weight, I'm have a twinge of concern over using the PU 30 weight. Thoughts?

Any chance there's been UOA on PU 5W-30?
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Old 06-26-2010, 10:41 AM   #43
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I still haven't seen any turbo uoa's on PU. Although if you want to run PU Euro 5W-30, you may be in luck.

This is an email response from Debbie Vanschalkwyk of Shell after several people asked Pennzoil about their Euro oils through a Q&A at bitog:

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We are in the process of setting up a web link on www.pennzoil.com specially for our customers who would like to purchase Pennzoil Ultra Euro 5W-40. This product will be shipped to your physical address. You will be able to order and pay for the product on-line, but Pennzoil will pay your shipment costs. This is in appreciation of your valued support and patience while we set this up this temporary solution.

I will contact you by email once this site is up and running.
Pennzoil Q&A at bitog .

Question 14:
When will Pennzoil Ultra Euro spec be available in stores...?!

Answer 14:
Yes, we agree we have to fix this. We understand that the distribution of Pennzoil Ultra™ Euro products is still limited. It’s still early days, but we know that most retailers and installers who stock PennzoilŪ motor oils will order the product for you if you ask them to. We are working with all our customers on wider distribution. If you would like us to place an order for you, please send an email to debbie.vanschalkwyk@shell.com

Question 20:
I own a 2010 VW GTI. It specs a 502.00 oil. I was looking at your Euro Ultra 5W-40. The data sheet was impressive for this product. This product can go head to head with Mobil 1 0W-40 with the specs it meets. Then the downfall of this product. I couldn't buy this oil anywhere! I called my local distributors with the SOPUS part number. They couldn't even find this oil for me. In my opinion, Pennzoil failed! Why show a data sheet on the Pennzoil's website for months now, and not have this oil ready to purchase by the consumer? That's just bad marketing.

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We agree we really need to solve the Pennzoil Ultra™ Euro oils availability issue. Keep on asking for this product at your favorite Retailer or Installer as this may help us get more distribution.

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^^^ awesome, thank you for the info!
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someone give me a reason to switch from RT6. UOAs yet from anyone?
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Old 07-27-2010, 10:29 PM   #46
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Got some PU 5W-40 after sending an email to Debbie (my post above). I need to finish my current run on M1 0W-40, and then I'll be making the switch.

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Old 07-28-2010, 01:49 AM   #47
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Got some PU 5W-40 after sending an email to Debbie at Pennzoil (my post above). I need to finish my current run on M1 0W-40, and then I'll be making the switch.

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where did you find it dennis?
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Pennzoil sent it.

They sent it to a few folks that emailed and mentioned the FAQ at bitog. Here's a thread about it.

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Pennzoil sent it.

They sent it to a few folks that emailed and mentioned the FAQ at bitog. Here's a thread about it.

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that is fricken awesome
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I have about 3000 miles on PU 5w30. I've burned about 2-3 quarts of oil so far, which I've read is expected.

I only have 5500 miles on my car and i've been told repeatedly not to have the analysis done as it will be unreliable due to the engine still breaking in.

I'm going to use the 5w30 again, unless I can get the euro in time.
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