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Old 02-13-2012, 12:55 AM   #1776
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lol. im gonna get one.
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Old 02-24-2012, 09:10 PM   #1777
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okay...so the motor is waiting on me to pick up some .040 cometic headgaskets. then i can assemble.

when i showed my machinist my perrin v2 fuel setup he was surprised to see rubber fuel line and suggested it was a safety issue. he also didnt see the logic in the one sided fuel block.
so i had him make me some 8an rails up. we discussed running the fuel system in a loop or what i called series. after discussing this with bret at aeromotive we decided that the furthest cyclinder could see a drop in pressure and lean out so we decided to change things. we decided to run 10an from the feed to a Y block. from the Y block run an 8an line to each rail. between each rail on the opposite side will be 8an into the aero FPR. the FPR will than lead an 8an to the return.

i then realized that the stock lines are much smaller than 8an and the oem feed and return will be a restriction. so i decided i wanted to run a 10an feed and 8an return to the tank. i wanted to weld a sump under the tank to feed an aeromotive 1000 fuel pump.
then i realized i wouldnt be able to mount the pump lower than the tank. i was also informed i would not be able to find someone to weld a fuel tank that ever had fuel in it, do to the vapors. i also came to realize that i would not be able to mount an aero1000 in tank due to its weight on the stock hanger. so if i wanted to run the aero1000 externally i would have to drill out the lid of the tank and attach AN fittings. i was considering running some sort of line into the tank with a filter until i realized an external pump needs to be gravity feed. i remembered seeing guys run an intank feeding the external. i discussed this with the machinist and we thought the internal pump would only cause flow problems for the much bigger external pump. i discussed this with ron and we considered the intank feeding a swirl pot to feed the external. yes this is getting very complicated. i still dont comprehend how guys are using an internal to feed an external without the internal bottlenecking flow. so of course i considered an replacement tank. being that i wanna run e85 this brought up other concerns. like all the hype about e85 being corrosive.

http://www.change2e85.com/servlet/Page?template=Myths

aluminum tanks are frowned upon even though my whole engine is aluminum. plastic tanks are available but like i said my whole engine is aluminum! cutting my trunk out for a fuel cell is really a stretch for my daily driving street car.

so i saw junior on facebook and asked him what he thought about the stock feed and return. he explained that the stock fuel line is actually 6an and not a real issue.

so now i'm back to wondering if i can drop in my walbro 400 and just go for it and see what happens...

i would love to run e85 but i cant afford to go bananas on the fuel system right now...i just need to get it running!!!

end rant for now...
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Old 02-24-2012, 09:33 PM   #1778
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Sounds like your E85 fuel setup is getting serious Jake. I got nothing.

The stock 5/16" fuel line O.D. is smaller than my -6 fuel line I.D. so the hardlines are not quite -6.

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Old 02-25-2012, 12:32 AM   #1779
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looking for the AN fittings to adapt from the OEM feed and return (-6AN?) to the -10 and -8 feed and return to and from the rails.

http://aeromotiveinc.com/products-pa...o-orb-08-port/

it appears that there is not a -10AN available...or am i looking at the wrong thing?

as of today i am thinking use the stock tank and hanger with the walbro 400. adapter the top of the tank with a quick connect from -6AN or whatever it is to -10AN feed and a quick disconnect for -8AN return. this way the small lines are only at the tank...for now. maybe i can some how cut the tank top and put AN bulkhead fittings into it?

jegs appears a lil cheaper for the Y splitter...

http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS-Performan...oductId=758483

HARD TUBE ADAPTERS???
http://www.jegs.com/ECatalog/full.asp?page=65

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Old 02-25-2012, 12:42 AM   #1780
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screw the OEM lines, grab some AN aluminum tubing and run your own lines, I did that and it ended up being much easier than I thought it would be.
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Old 02-25-2012, 12:50 AM   #1781
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^^^you used the stock tank and tank cover?

i want to run new line feed and return but am trying to figure out how to connect to the top of the fuel pump assembly.
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Old 02-25-2012, 01:21 AM   #1782
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^^^you used the stock tank and tank cover?

i want to run new line feed and return but am trying to figure out how to connect to the top of the fuel pump assembly.
nope, full blown pump hanger, gave me the AN ends I needed, but yeah stock tank. I want to upgrade to the process west surge tank when I go e85, from what I've read, much quieter than having an 044 in the cabin and since I have a wagon it's a more feasible option as well
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Old 02-25-2012, 10:36 AM   #1783
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nice fuel system
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Old 02-25-2012, 10:53 AM   #1784
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so that process west 044 is gravity fed or intank pump fed?

on a 2 pump system, the intank feeds the surge tank, which feeds the external? so to keep the external from out pumping the internal the fuel return is routed to the surge tank as well? and the surge tank never overflows or gets pressurized?

drawing fuel through a smaller less powerful pump with a BIGGER more powerful pump seems counter productive. isn't the smaller pump now a choke point and gonna get damaged by mad suction?
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Old 02-25-2012, 08:40 PM   #1785
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Surge tank is also routed back to the fuel tank at the top so it can't overflow/over press.
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Old 02-25-2012, 08:56 PM   #1786
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Gonna keep it simple for now. Maybe I won't need a cell and a surge tank and a big ass pump until I get a 6266.
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Old 03-04-2012, 12:02 PM   #1787
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So first step in the build was a stumble. When torquing the head studs I stripped out my craftsman tool and a stud. One of the arp studs was even slightly bent. Gonna have to drop 180$ on a new set and order a 3/8 impact Allen. Big up to k&w for hosting the event and getting me inebriated.
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Old 03-04-2012, 12:52 PM   #1788
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K&w needs to take an hour one day and ship a damn motor
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Old 03-04-2012, 02:37 PM   #1789
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Duh...hand tighten the stud. Then torque the nut 30-30-30 to 90. Get back on it on Tuesday. I tried to torque the stud through the 3/16...so dumb.
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Old 03-05-2012, 10:38 PM   #1790
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Duh...hand tighten the stud. Then torque the nut 30-30-30 to 90. Get back on it on Tuesday. I tried to torque the stud through the 3/16...so dumb.
TQ 30-60-90 lol
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Old 03-05-2012, 11:14 PM   #1791
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thats what i ment...shame i missed the invite to your dyno pulll...big jerk.

better your happy though!
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Old 03-05-2012, 11:14 PM   #1792
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thats what i ment...shame i missed the invite to your dyno pulll...big jerk.

bet your happy though!
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Old 03-07-2012, 11:48 PM   #1793
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Old 03-08-2012, 01:50 AM   #1794
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Looking good! I can't wait until mine hits this point...

Gotta love those ports!
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Old 03-08-2012, 07:56 AM   #1795
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the ports are gasket matched...oem...

there is room for more flow out of these, but i decided to leave them be since i went with manley h beam rods. goal for this build is under 450whp. my machinist is able to get well over 300cfm gutted from stock 02 wrx heads. on the next build for my full on 99 racecar, i will be thinking bigger things.

destroked 2.5? longrod 2.2t? i wish i could have buy this one for it...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...c#ht_500wt_922
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Old 03-08-2012, 08:16 AM   #1796
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the ports are gasket matched...oem...

there is room for more flow out of these, but i decided to leave them be since i went with manley h beam rods. goal for this build is under 450whp. my machinist is able to get well over 300cfm gutted from stock 02 wrx heads. on the next build for my full on 99 racecar, i will be thinking bigger things.

destroked 2.5? longrod 2.2t? i wish i could have buy this one for it...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...c#ht_500wt_922
wow that is crazy a new ej22t
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Old 03-08-2012, 08:59 AM   #1797
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Destroked 2.5 or stroked 2.2
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Old 03-08-2012, 10:02 AM   #1798
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I've got an EJ22T laying around in my garage with EJ257 heads on it... interested?
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Old 03-08-2012, 10:24 AM   #1799
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wow that is crazy a new ej22t
GT Motorsports is right down the street from my old pad. They built my last two motors. Send me some cash and I'll pick up that block for ya


It looks like we'll all be getting our cars on the road around the same time... lets just hope we can keep them on the road for some time.

Juan is up and running I think, I'm a turbo away from running, Jake is getting work done, how 'bout you Karl?

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Old 03-08-2012, 12:59 PM   #1800
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Haha good one... I think ill be coming out strong for 2013.. Too much bills and house stuff still to play with car right now. Unless I hit lotto tonite, then watch guys..
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