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Old 10-30-2012, 07:55 PM   #401
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Old 11-11-2012, 11:31 PM   #402
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Hey all, first post.

This looks like a great option for my hybrid build. I'll send a PM if I'm able.
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:41 PM   #403
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If we disassemble the heads. We will almost never put them back together without doing a valve job. The only exceptions to this are brand new heads or extremely low mileage heads. The CNC service is $400, our 4/5 angle valve job is $500, decking the heads is $200. If you want to be able just slap on the heads and go, I would highly recommend all of these services.

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This is an ooooold post...but just to clarify: is the total for all three of these jobs $1100, barring any unforseen broken or unusable parts?

Another post made it sound like you either get the 4/5 angle valve job (if the heads are old), or you get the heads decked (if the heads are relatively new), but not both....but I could very easily be misinterpreting the other post.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:25 PM   #404
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This is an ooooold post...but just to clarify: is the total for all three of these jobs $1100, barring any unforseen broken or unusable parts?

Another post made it sound like you either get the 4/5 angle valve job (if the heads are old), or you get the heads decked (if the heads are relatively new), but not both....but I could very easily be misinterpreting the other post.

That's correct except the price of the CNC work has gone up to $450. So the total for all 3 is $1150.

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Old 11-15-2012, 11:29 AM   #405
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So if the heads are old, do you recommend all three, or just the combustion chamber reshaping and the valve job?

(Forgive me if this is a stupid question, I know nothing about this type of work.)
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Old 11-15-2012, 08:31 PM   #406
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will it work for ej20r?
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Old 11-16-2012, 11:09 AM   #407
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They look great.
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Old 11-19-2012, 01:54 PM   #408
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So if the heads are old, do you recommend all three, or just the combustion chamber reshaping and the valve job?

(Forgive me if this is a stupid question, I know nothing about this type of work.)
If the heads are old, I would definitely recommend all 3.

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Old 11-19-2012, 01:54 PM   #409
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will it work for ej20r?
Not sure... what's the combustion chamber style on those?

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Old 11-19-2012, 11:23 PM   #410
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Not sure... what's the combustion chamber style on those?

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what to you mean by style?
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Old 11-20-2012, 12:00 AM   #411
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EJ20R has clover style like the '97-'99 EJ25D
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Old 11-20-2012, 03:11 PM   #412
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Yep, we can't do the clover style.

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Old 11-20-2012, 03:43 PM   #413
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will it work for ej20r?
You can always blend by hand if you're confident.
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Old 11-20-2012, 06:21 PM   #414
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Or if you don't trust your hands like me you can contact ASF machine, Joe does a combo of by hand and machine. I was curious so I talked to him about it, he said that he can get the chamber out to about 49-50cc.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:01 PM   #415
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You can always blend by hand if you're confident.
well i have a ej205 block and heads now and just bought a ej25 with ej20r heads that have low compression on cylinder #2. so i will just send my ej205s out.
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Old 11-25-2012, 11:21 AM   #416
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Hey Ed,

Can you chamber match a set of ej207 heads from a version 9 STi with AVCS to match up with an ej257 block?
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Old 12-02-2012, 06:52 PM   #417
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Yep. We can do 207 heads.

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Old 12-02-2012, 06:53 PM   #418
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Hey Ed,

I've got a set of EJ20X V9 dual AVCS 2.0L legacy heads sitting around here, I noticed the chamber is more square compared to the 205/207 chambers, but would you still be able to CNC these out? Or would I be limited to blending by hand? Maybe even FujiK could chime in about this.

I have photos on hand for you if you want to see.
You can shoot me a PM as well

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Old 12-03-2012, 07:47 PM   #419
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Send me some photos and I can take a look.

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Old 12-03-2012, 09:03 PM   #420
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Yep, we can't do the clover style.

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What is the reason you can't cut the clover style, programming or not enough material? Thought I'd asked way back about you being able to do them and can't remember if you ever replied or gave a reason.
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Old 12-07-2012, 10:11 PM   #421
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I honestly haven't tried, but I don't think the program would work properly.

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Old 12-08-2012, 06:39 PM   #422
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has your pricing changed ?
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Old 12-09-2012, 10:58 AM   #423
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What kind of answer is this, especially if you "honestly haven't tried"? Seems like you're slightly limiting your customer base. I actually expected a better response from a vendor, wow.


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Old 12-09-2012, 11:40 AM   #424
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^ his program is designed to reshape the chamber to mimic the EJ257, which only requires the chamber to be widened for a majority of the process.

To modify a clover style chamber to match that of a 257 would require a totally new program because more material would have to be removed to recreate the same chamber.

Ed is catering to the more recent heads using a Cnc program to keep things faster and a very close match to STi CC's.

It's not his fault he hasn't had time to do every style of head and write a few different programs.

Like posted above you can get work done to these heads from other vendors and Nasioc members.

No reason to degrade a vendor(s) on here.

Just my .02
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Old 12-09-2012, 12:08 PM   #425
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^ his program is designed to reshape the chamber to mimic the EJ257, which only requires the chamber to be widened for a majority of the process.

To modify a clover style chamber to match that of a 257 would require a totally new program because more material would have to be removed to recreate the same chamber.

Ed is catering to the more recent heads using a Cnc program to keep things faster and a very close match to STi CC's.
My block is ej257 which is the reason I'm trying to match the combustions chambers so... How is this saving time or "faster" for the people who would like to get it done on clover style heads? If he doesn't think the customer base exists, that would be at least something plausible but his reply simply isn't acceptable in my opinion.

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It's not his fault he hasn't had time to do every style of head and write a few different programs.
This thread has been up for a few years and not once has he given an explanation or reply on queries about the clover design heads.

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Like posted above you can get work done to these heads from other vendors and Nasioc members.

Its obvious other people do this, but my point was to decide on whether I would choose them for the work or someone else. Threads like this are to inform as well as advertise and there isn't much informing going on. I'm not the type of person to just send off a couple of heads to a company far away because some nasioc lackie recommends them. I prefer vendors who have a good bit of technical knowledge on the subject. Since my port and valve job will be done soon, I decided to recheck here for any updates.

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No reason to degrade a vendor(s) on here.
Its not degrading to ask questions and expect legitimate answers from a person who represents a company that will be doing substantially technical operations to a component that will be part of your daily driver.

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.02 doesn't get much these days

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