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Old 03-04-2010, 10:26 AM   #1
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Default Starbucks says no to guns. Damn hippies! I don't know how to read. FLAME ON!!!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,587938,00.html

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Starbucks Corp. and some other chain stores in the U.S. are finding themselves caught in the middle of a firearms debate, as gun-control advocates go up against a burgeoning campaign by gun owners to carry holstered pistols in public places.

The "open carry" movement, in which gun owners carry unconcealed handguns as they go about their everyday business, is loosely organized around the country but has been gaining traction in recent months. Gun-control advocates have been pushing to quash the movement, including by petitioning the Starbucks coffee chain to ban guns on its premises.

Businesses have the final say on their property. But the ones that don't opt to ban guns—such as Starbucks—have become parade grounds of sorts for open-carry advocates.

Starbucks on Wednesday, while bemoaning being thrust into the debate, defended its long-standing policy of complying with state open-carry weapons laws, in part by stating that its baristas, or "partners," could be harmed if the stores were to ban guns. The chain said that in the 43 states where open carry is legal, it has about 4,970 company-operated stores.

The company added: "The political, policy and legal debates around these issues belong in the legislatures and courts, not in our stores."

In 29 states, it's legal to openly carry a loaded handgun, without any form of government permission. Another 13 allow an unconcealed loaded handgun with a carry permit, according to opencarry.org, which is a loosely organized Web forum for the movement.

In California, where it's legal to carry a gun openly without a license in most places as long as it's unloaded, growing numbers of armed people have been turning up at Starbucks, restaurants, and retailers, with handguns holstered to their belts to protest what they contend are unfair limits on permits to carry a concealed weapon.
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Old 03-04-2010, 10:28 AM   #2
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Old 03-04-2010, 10:31 AM   #3
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Gun-toting Republican conservatives - "Private property only matters when it's convenient for us!" You know if Starbucks were actually banning guns, the NRA crowd would be all butt-hurt...

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Old 03-04-2010, 10:32 AM   #4
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Old 03-04-2010, 10:34 AM   #5
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You have to read the article first Lucky.
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Old 03-04-2010, 10:36 AM   #6
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Old 03-04-2010, 10:36 AM   #7
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People who open carry are ********.

On this, I think we can all agree.

Having an armed citizen with a concealed weapon is fine by me.
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Old 03-04-2010, 10:37 AM   #8
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Businesses have the final say on their property. But the ones that don't opt to ban guns—such as Starbucks—have become parade grounds of sorts for open-carry advocates.
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Old 03-04-2010, 10:37 AM   #9
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HAHAHAHAHAH I SO GOT BURNED!!!

I just started to read it and then decided to post it here. HAHAHA



I am keeping it the way it is because I love being a fool..
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Old 03-04-2010, 10:38 AM   #10
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ok.. so it wasn't just me confused here.
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Old 03-04-2010, 10:38 AM   #11
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I am scared ****less by people who carry as it is, adding the open carry to it adds even more fear to my life.

Just thinking of the hero complex or cowboy reactions concerns me a great deal.
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Old 03-04-2010, 10:42 AM   #12
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Meh.

I'm no fan of guns, but I have no gripe with people who are, or want to exercise their right to carry.
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Old 03-04-2010, 10:43 AM   #13
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HAHAHAHAHAH I SO GOT BURNED!!!

I just started to read it and then decided to post it here. HAHAHA



I am keeping it the way it is because I love being a fool..
shameful loser shows no shame.

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I am scared ****less by people who carry as it is, adding the open carry to it adds even more fear to my life.

Just thinking of the hero complex or cowboy reactions concerns me a great deal.


What would a hero complex cowboy reaction be in response to? A threat, perhaps?
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Old 03-04-2010, 10:44 AM   #15
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In California, where it's legal to carry a gun openly without a license in most places as long as it's unloaded,
Why would you even bother carrying an unloaded gun? Sure, you can carry a magazine as well, but talk about a fumble****....
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I am scared ****less by people who carry as it is, adding the open carry to it adds even more fear to my life.
So the guy who has a gun on him that you never notice scares you, but if you can actually see the gun makes it worse? How? Does the person having the gun visible make it more likely they'll just start shooting?
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People who open carry don't bother me, it's the people who might just decide to rip the gun out of the holster of the person in front of them in line that scare me, and that's why I'm much more in favor of concealed carry.
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Why would you even bother carrying an unloaded gun? Sure, you can carry a magazine as well, but talk about a fumble****....
attention whoring.
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I am scared ****less by people who carry as it is, adding the open carry to it adds even more fear to my life.

Just thinking of the hero complex or cowboy reactions concerns me a great deal.
I don't know many problems of the hero complex or cowboy reaction that have gone bad. Sure you can search and find them however they are a small percent compared to the amount of people that carry.

If a person is on a rampage shooting people I would rather have someone shoot him to prevent him from killing more people.


If you go around looking for trouble just because you carry then that won't last long before you end up in jail or dead.
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So the guy who has a gun on him that you never notice scares you, but if you can actually see the gun makes it worse? How? Does the person having the gun visible make it more likely they'll just start shooting?
ignorance is bliss and all that.
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You're new here aren't you?



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If I **** up. I don't try to hide it. I admit my goofs and move on.
doesn't always seem to be the case, but i like

where's the fun if you can't laugh at yourself.

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What would a hero complex cowboy reaction be in response to? A threat, perhaps?
Any kind of disagreement, road rage, arguement - the response to a threat is not always to pull out your gun however I imagine some people quickly whipping out their guns. My problem is not with guns it is with the lunatics that own them.

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So the guy who has a gun on him that you never notice scares you, but if you can actually see the gun makes it worse? How? Does the person having the gun visible make it more likely they'll just start shooting?
Yes, I am in general scared of random people with guns that I don't know about it - What scares me even more is the person who feels proud to open carry.

That mentality of "hey I have gun and I want everyone to know I have a gun"- scares me. To me that is one of the most antisocial behaviors, "Hi I could kill you if I felt like it - do you mind if I cut in line"

The rational bothers me, human nature and the 'average' person owning these weapons bothers me.
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