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Old 08-21-2013, 10:05 PM   #1
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I have been answering questions on the "does this combo fit thread" and quite frankly I answer the same fitment question atleast 5 times a week. I'm tired of people not looking or searching and just asking the same questions! I have compiled this list from my experience and through a year or so of research! (Yes I do the research) I have installed most of these sizes on my car or others so I know what is required

First off NONE of my listed combos will be with stretched tires! I DO NOT condone this, it is idiotic and puts everyone at danger and hinders the performance of your PERFORMANCE car! If you want to stretch your tires, go elsewhere.

Secondly, most of these combos will require or be better off with coilovers, especially those with camber plates (front and rear)

Thirdly and most importantly, you WILL most likely have to roll your fenders! If this is done right it will not hurt your car in anyway. Some fitments will require a pull, this will damage your car and distort your fenders, but when done right can look good.

Lastly, please understand how offsets work. The offset is where the pad of the wheel (where the wheel come in contact with your hub) is in comparison the center of the wheels. Postive offset (which is what all these fitment will be!) moves the pad towards the FRONT of the wheel, essentially pulling the backside of the wheel inward towards the car. The higher the offset, the closer the wheel is to the car and vise versa. EXAMPLE: 18x8 et+45 means that the wheels is 8 inches wide and the pad of the wheel is 45mm past the center point of the wheel (the 4 inch mark) The reason I point this out is that I will put "ish" for some offsets, this means that it can move less the 3mm either way and will not cause problems.

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Wheel Size
Offsets that do not require work
Offsets that require no fender work and but may need camber
Offsets that require a roll and camber
Offsets that require a pull and camber
Offsets that will rub stock struts
Tire size based off of

17" and 18" wheels:
x7 et53-45ish 225/45, 225/40 for 18's
x7.5 et53-45ish 225/45, 225/40 for 18's
x8 et45-40 235/45, 235/40 for 18's
x8 et39-35ish 235/45, 235/40 for 18's
x9 et50-45 245/40
x9 et40-33ish 245/40
x9 et30 and lower 245/40
x9.5 et45-35 May need slight pull if you do not want to run much camber 265/35
x9.5 et35 and lower 265/35
x10 et40 and lower 265/35 (This will be slightly stretched! And this is a very difficult size to fit that very few have attempted!)
X10.5+ KARLTON FLARES! Whole different subject!

I am assuming in this list that you are atleast lowered on springs, if not coilovers. A 9" wide and wider will require a coilover with camber plates, this way the inside of the wheel will not rub.

Obviously the lower you go the more camber/roll/pull you will need! This is a rough estimate of sizes but WILL answer your question if you put a little bit of thought into it! DONT BE LAZY. Also with 17's you can go lower then 18's obviously.

Sorry, I have not messed with any of the new body style beside one, so I do not know much about them!

If you have any suggestion or problems with this thread PM me, do not post please, I will consider your suggestions like a professional and reply like a professional! I however will not reply to insults or argumentation. I will update this thread with suggestions WITH your name next to the suggestion as I do not want to take credit for something that is not my work.

Sorry for the long read, however if you don't want to put in the time to read it, you shouldn't be modifying your car.

Again, I have fit most of the sizes on my car or others cars so I know what went into fitting these wheels with said tire sizes. But if you think I have gone wrong somewhere PM me and we can discuss it!
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Old 08-21-2013, 10:06 PM   #2
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These lists are from www.wheeldude.com. They have spent many hours compiling these lists and if they would like me to take these lists off of the thread I will! Again, NOT my specs

Here's the link:
http://www.wheeldude.com/wordpress/h...-fitment-guide

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Old 08-21-2013, 10:06 PM   #3
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Old 08-21-2013, 10:28 PM   #4
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Old 08-21-2013, 10:30 PM   #5
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Old 08-21-2013, 10:53 PM   #6
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Can I post a 10.5 stock body tucking on minimal camber and stretch? Lol since 50% of the subaru community are a bunch of sally's when it comes to fender pulls

Unless you're against stretch in this thread. If so I understand. Just throwing it out there for the scoob community
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Old 08-21-2013, 10:55 PM   #7
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Can I post a 10.5 stock body tucking on minimal camber and stretch? Lol since 50% of the subaru community are a bunch of sally's when it comes to fender pulls
Go for it! I've only seen one car done that way, it was a black sti I believe. So post away or send it to me and I'll put it in one of my reserved posts

EDIT: depends on how much stretch. If it's like 235 on a 10.5 that's too much! But say a 265 on a 10.5, it's still stretched but within reason
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Go for it! I've only seen one car done that way, it was a black sti I believe. So post away or send it to me and I'll put it in one of my reserved posts

EDIT: depends on how much stretch. If it's like 235 on a 10.5 that's too much! But say a 265 on a 10.5, it's still stretched but within reason
Well we'll see. Honestly I'm against ghetto strech this setup went on a road rally with me and no problems so I'll post it. That black STi I'm guessing was me

-4 all around 18x10.5 +22 with a 245/35. Room for a 255/35 on certain brands and a 265 depending on height honestly. -4 all around wheel lips sit flush after mucho pulling

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Welcome to the life. Now you see why I barely post in those threads anymore.

With how much info has been posted, if ya can't figure it out, you probably shouldn't be doin it.
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Welcome to the life. Now you see why I barely post in those threads anymore.

With how much info has been posted, if ya can't figure it out, you probably shouldn't be doin it.
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Oh and a correction to the top post, 265 is technically square for 10.5
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Oh and a correction to the top post, 265 is technically square for 10.5
Depends on tire really. As we all know some tires are skinnier then others. But I will change what I have put
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Old 08-29-2013, 10:24 AM   #13
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Intresting cause most people say on an 8 inch mono block rim 225's is the biggest but been wanting to run 235 or 245 with a 40 profile on 18's. I'm not into the stretching either. I see why it helps with tire angle away from fender but still super easy to roll off rim.
I have yoko AD08's listed size above and would never stretch these tires. I don't even think you could with the steel sidewalls they come with to stay square. Either way good right up. I use to rub a lil in the rear not so much in front with camber plates. Gona swap out front bolts for whiteline camber bolts and toss oem 's in the rear.
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Can't let a thread like this go to waste! I've been answering questions on other threads that this thread answers!
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im not sure if these fitments apply to 04-07 wagons or not. what does it take to fit 17x9s with 245/40/17s on a 2004 wagon.
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im not sure if these fitments apply to 04-07 wagons or not. what does it take to fit 17x9s with 245/40/17s on a 2004 wagon.
You need to know the offset of the wheel. Either way at least a roll and some camber.
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You need to know the offset of the wheel. Either way at least a roll and some camber.
17x9 +30 or 17x9+42. Will I be able to fit either wheel with just rolled fenders and minor camber or will I need to pull fenders. And if I need to roll fenders do I do the fronts or the backs or both. I'm planning to just have either 1 finger gap or no gap
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Sorry, I don't know much about wagons or I would've put info on them! But thanks to everyone that has contributed!
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17x9 +30 or 17x9+42. Will I be able to fit either wheel with just rolled fenders and minor camber or will I need to pull fenders. And if I need to roll fenders do I do the fronts or the backs or both. I'm planning to just have either 1 finger gap or no gap
To fit that much wheel and tire on a wagon will take work, but not impossible.

17x9 +30 w/ 245/40 = roll all around, pulled rears.

17x9 +42 w 245/40 = with moderate ride height, you might be able to get away with a roll all around.

either setup will require coilovers and camber plates (front and rear) for a wagon.

Wagons (for all intents and purposes) have about 20mm less clearance than the sedan, so take that into consideration when referencing desired specs off of what is listed in the OP.
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^^ thanks man! I figured you had a good way to figure out wagon figments. It's makes since to me by the 20mm differences
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To fit that much wheel and tire on a wagon will take work, but not impossible.

17x9 +30 w/ 245/40 = roll all around, pulled rears.

17x9 +42 w 245/40 = with moderate ride height, you might be able to get away with a roll all around.

either setup will require coilovers and camber plates (front and rear) for a wagon.

Wagons (for all intents and purposes) have about 20mm less clearance than the sedan, so take that into consideration when referencing desired specs off of what is listed in the OP.
thanks a lot for the great info! I just bought this wagon and a first timer in the subi world. For the rear camber adjustment can i use camber bolts with aftermarket coilovers? Im not sure what i need to adjust the rears.
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thanks a lot for the great info! I just bought this wagon and a first timer in the subi world. For the rear camber adjustment can i use camber bolts with aftermarket coilovers? Im not sure what i need to adjust the rears.
read the post you quoted.

you WILL need coilovers with camber plates front AND rear.
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To fit that much wheel and tire on a wagon will take work, but not impossible.

17x9 +30 w/ 245/40 = roll all around, pulled rears.

17x9 +42 w 245/40 = with moderate ride height, you might be able to get away with a roll all around.

either setup will require coilovers and camber plates (front and rear) for a wagon.

Wagons (for all intents and purposes) have about 20mm less clearance than the sedan, so take that into consideration when referencing desired specs off of what is listed in the OP.
Can anyone confirm this ~20mm difference is the same on 02-03 wagons? I see most of the talk is about 04'ish years but I would have to assume 02-03 is the same, correct?
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^ 02 and 03 body's are the same as 04-07, just the front end looks different.
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^ 02 and 03 body's are the same as 04-07, just the front end looks different.
OK that's what I thought but with there being some variations in rear struts before 2004 I wasn't 100% sure if the wheel fitment was identical. Thank you
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