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Old 03-09-2010, 05:24 PM   #1
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Question Good Price? Engine rebuild 2.5L on my Legacy

Found this guy in Portland area, I have cash. Have my rear main seal, hg leaking and 147k miles on orignal motor. He of course swaps all my sensors and what not over. What do you guys think?

For $1400 longblock, the rebuild includes valve grind, the heads and case are refaced for the new updated OEM head gaskets, the case is bored 20 over for new pistons, all new main, cam seals and valve stem seals, and new new rod and main bearings and they come with a 12 month 12,000 mile warranty.
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Old 03-09-2010, 05:57 PM   #2
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Sounds to good to be true.

who is this "guy"?
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Old 03-09-2010, 06:12 PM   #3
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Guy name Ken Welter. Does Subaru engine swap into air crafts, machinery and what not. All OEM stuff is used.
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Old 03-09-2010, 06:23 PM   #4
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verdict anyone? I want to hear it.
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Old 03-09-2010, 06:55 PM   #5
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is this just for the parts and the motor? or is this the installed price?

really hard to tell from the OP first post.
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Old 03-09-2010, 07:49 PM   #6
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It would be $1600 installed or $1400 plus your core.
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Old 03-09-2010, 07:55 PM   #7
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Is it just some guy? or is it a shop?

i know there are a lot of "guys" out there that promise the world, and you end up paying more...


But that goes both way, i know of a lot of great garage mechanics that do amzing work for very little compaired to the stealerships and bigger house name shops. So it seems it is a coin toss... kinda far to drive from Tacoma to portland as well.

have you called Pacific Import Auto? they are in your neck of the woods and have many great refferances on these boards, as well as happy customers.

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Old 03-09-2010, 08:28 PM   #8
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It really does seam like a coin toss, I will try and give them a call. Every shop I talked to was around $1800 to $2500.
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Old 03-09-2010, 10:46 PM   #9
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Ya but it would probably be worth it to pay a few extra bucks to have a well trusted shop like pacific import auto build your motor. Rather than just some "guy" who might save you money but things might not be done right?
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Old 03-09-2010, 11:00 PM   #10
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Ya but it would probably be worth it to pay a few extra bucks to have a well trusted shop like pacific import auto build your motor. Rather than just some "guy" who might save you money but things might not be done right?

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PIA will stand behind there product if not done right they will fix it.
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Old 03-09-2010, 11:13 PM   #11
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Wait, are you just trying to fix your headgaskets and rear main, or are you looking to rebuild the motor, or are you looking to go "built motor"?

Significant difference in each of those.
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sounds not far off if you are simply bringing him your longblock. I'd ask for his complete parts list for new stuff. At 1400 it's a stretch to think he is including a new water pump, oil pump, timing belt tensioners, pullies, etc. His "long block" might not include all the new parts you should have prior to dropping back into your car. Devil is it the details on a rebuild. If your car is stock and you intend to keep it that way, I think you are going overboard with new one over pistons, bearings, head work etc. You might just need the timing belt service, head gasket replacement, reseal the motor and go. Do your clutch now as well since your are in that far if its even close to due for that service.
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Old 03-10-2010, 01:33 AM   #13
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Hmmm......

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Old 03-10-2010, 11:46 AM   #14
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whoever did your timing belt service and felt using your old cam seals was a good idea should quit working on cars.

You don't need a rebuild, you just need new headgaskets, reseal the motor and go. If budget is a concern which seemed to be the point of the thread you are being talked into expensive and time consuming work you don't need.
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Old 03-10-2010, 03:21 PM   #15
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Well i talked to the guys over at Pacific Import... And like they said, i have close to 150k miles... The bottom end probably needs to be redone as bearings and what not they see go out and other things but unsure untill motor is ripped apart to see... So a full rebuild bottom end and up(longblock) is going to run roughly around $3000 done right with only a year warranty and unlimited mileage in that year. Again, yes this is my DD but i drive only average a year is only 6k to 9k miles on my cars. I only had this Subaru since 143k miles, 2 preivious owners clean title and doesnt look like they took care of the maintance on the engine at all... Agian i only got this baby for $3400 out the door cash.

$1600 longblock installed with warranty and $30 amtrack train ride back and forth to Portland isn't looking so bad right about now.

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Old 03-10-2010, 06:22 PM   #16
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Why not find a 2.2L and swap that baby in there. I bet you'd have less expenses, a more reliable engine, and with the money you save buy an exhaust and the power won't even be an issue.

Seriously. I did this in my old 98 LGT wagon, and it was the best decision on a serious budget I could've made. Been runnin strong for over 3 years now, and the 2.2L that went in wasn't even a low mileage motor...

Think about it...
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I don't know... Still up for ideas. I really don't want to go to Portland and not trying to spend over $2000 cause I just want to pay cash. The motor just needs a rebuild, I don't want to go half way with just a HG replacement and rear main seal when who knows what gasket is almost ready to leak or something internal goes.
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Why not find a 2.2L and swap that baby in there. I bet you'd have less expenses, a more reliable engine, and with the money you save buy an exhaust and the power won't even be an issue.

Seriously. I did this in my old 98 LGT wagon, and it was the best decision on a serious budget I could've made. Been runnin strong for over 3 years now, and the 2.2L that went in wasn't even a low mileage motor...

Think about it...
Curious, about how much of a difference did your exhaust make? i just rebuilt my heads with delta reground 264 cams, and am wanting to a full exhaust, with stock cats. As for matty, 1400 sounds like a steal to me, although i understand all of the others concerns with this "guy" being unknown.. I just spent around 2100 on heads, cams, timing belt, idlers, tensioners, hg's, all seals not including anything in the crankcase, water pump and clutch. I am still burning oil so i'll need to pull the motor again and redo the piston rings..
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wow, PIA thinks the bottom end is bad or needs replacing at only 150K... they sure do love to sell parts/labor.

but then again they quoted me $3k for a wiring merg lol
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Curious, about how much of a difference did your exhaust make? i just rebuilt my heads with delta reground 264 cams, and am wanting to a full exhaust, with stock cats. As for matty, 1400 sounds like a steal to me, although i understand all of the others concerns with this "guy" being unknown.. I just spent around 2100 on heads, cams, timing belt, idlers, tensioners, hg's, all seals not including anything in the crankcase, water pump and clutch. I am still burning oil so i'll need to pull the motor again and redo the piston rings..
Not sure to be honest. I put it the 2.2L in and the exhaust was already there. There is plenty of "testing" done that shows it really isn't going to do a TON for you, especially if the motor is stock. But it definitely seemed to keep it breathing a little better, which was all I really needed...
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2.2l might be interesting...

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